r/Kamloops • u/Physical-Village2111 • Apr 26 '25
Politics Observation 48 hours before election day
Is it just me or others have notice the trend that all the social media (including redditt), and all the tv station there is such a big liberal presence and supporting the liberals, but when talking/overhearing conversation in coffee shops, parks, workplaces etc its overwhelming the support for the conservatives.
Feels like there is two reality around me, one that lives in my cell phone screen and the other out and about.
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u/thestonefeather Apr 26 '25
Kamloops has been a Conservative Party stronghold for many years regardless of how the rest of the country votes, so that checks out.
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u/MildlyChatty Apr 26 '25
True...and kinda sad imo. Kamloops used to be an NDP town for many years, and that's how I used to vote. Everyone I've talked to about the election is voting Liberal. But, I'm not talking to many random strangers. Lol. I'll just be glad when the election is over.
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u/karmageddon14 Sahali Apr 27 '25
Here's a Nelson Riis story. When I went to Cariboo college in the late 80's (88 I think) , my apartment was in Brock. Had to drive over the bridge in the lead up to the federal election. Everyday it was a different outfit on the pedestrian overpass waving to the voters. When the election was over and Nelson won, the next day he was on the bridge with a thank you sign waving at people. I liked that...
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u/1966TEX Apr 28 '25
Back when the NDP was a Labour Party for the working man instead of what it used to be now.
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u/brycecampbel Aberdeen Apr 27 '25
It's like most of western Canada though. The progressives get squeezed and Conservatives take the middle (more so in BC)
Conservatives also do very little for Western Canada when they do get government, cause they know they have to do shit all to get their votes
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u/pickypawz Apr 27 '25
Maybe I think differently than others, but to me it’s not gonna matter what is done for this province or that province, if the carbon tax is on or off, etc etc, if we don’t have a country because we’ve been annexed by Trump. And I also personally believe PP is too much like Trump and would not (be able to) stand up to him.
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u/TrueMacaque Apr 27 '25
There are many who see what you're seeing and thinking what you're thinking.
JP was on Rogan last week. He came out to say that Carney will be the most dangerous enemy that Trump could have in the west, because of his experience and his many geopolitical connections.
When the enemy is validating my beliefs about two of the strongest assets in my preferred candidate, I know I'm choosing the right horse.
Then there is Pierre.
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u/Cuarinus Apr 28 '25
That’s what annoyed me most first when Reform took the west, and then when Harper won. They kept saying they are the voice of the west and the west can no longer be ignored, but what they really meant was the prairies. BC, ironically being the furthest west, was not part of their west and was still largely ignored.
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u/brycecampbel Aberdeen Apr 28 '25
The biggest statement the west can do to get representation in Ottawa is NOT give the Conservatives a "free path to victory"
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u/Cold-Teaching5652 Apr 27 '25
Been Conservative since Nelson Riis lost back in the 90’s. However they generally win with a mid 30% and the rest split their vote . ABC doesn’t catch on in Kamloops
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u/benuito Pine View Apr 29 '25
Maybe they can get Pollievre a seat here so he can sit in the House of Commons. #byelection
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u/p1nts1ze Apr 26 '25
I have had the exact opposite - my social media is full of Maple Maga posts, but when about the city I hear “I don’t like the liberals, but I think Carney would be the better leader”
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u/turtlefan32 Apr 26 '25
Nope. Opposite
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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 27 '25
? What news source do you have that’s nice about conservatives lol. I’d live to watch it please tell me
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u/ben_z03 Apr 26 '25
Not sure why Kamloops was recommended to me here but hello I guess. I’m in Ontario, in a riding that can easily go any direction in any given election. I’ve had very reasonable and varying yet moderate conversations with people about this election. I’ve had to stop using all socials in the last week because I’m just getting pumped with conservative propaganda, even though I’ve never engaged with political posts ever (although I do follow our PM, regardless of party preference). I’m talking the whole “if the libs win this is the end of Canada” and “Carney will ruin Canada forever” all that fun stuff.
Social media algorithms don’t show you what they think you will like, they show you what they think will make you engage. They want to get you riled up so you use their platform more, comment more, maybe even post your own anti-[insert party] content. It makes them more money
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u/Starkiller164 Apr 26 '25
Sounds like your circle may be a bit limited. I've heard a mix of both and even a couple NDP'ers. Seems like the con candidate will win as usual though
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u/MildlyChatty Apr 26 '25
We have another riding now, though. Maybe the rockies riding will go Liberal. One can hope.
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u/Starkiller164 Apr 26 '25
The more rural the riding the more likely it is to go conservative. Rockies is probably gonna be con too
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u/MildlyChatty Apr 26 '25
Well, one can hope. I wasn't too thrilled when I got turfed into that new riding.
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u/IsaidLigma Apr 26 '25
I live in kelowna and it's been more mixed here than I've ever seen it. Still mostly conservative I'd say, but usually its heavily blue here. I doubt the liberals will win here but I feel like it's gonna be close. I agree though. Online and media seems to be really downplaying the conservatives and I think it's by design to get liberal voters to be complacent thinking it's in the bag.
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u/MikeS11 Apr 26 '25
CPC supporters seem to be more outspoken in their views than Liberal supporters. This might be why you can overhear them in public settings.
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u/Drogaan Apr 26 '25
Reddit is not the real world it's the most left leaning place on the internet
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u/Deep_Imagination3023 Apr 26 '25
Yea when they got rid of the incel forums a lot of right wingers left
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u/CarelessGeologist769 Apr 26 '25
I’m getting conservative and ndp ads, but I’m pretty sure that’s targeted.
Hammer Jackson is our mayor. He’s an awful combination of Elon and Trump.
We had residential schools in our backyard. Wtf.
Kamloops is as maga as they come.
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u/ColinBonhomme Apr 26 '25 edited Apr 26 '25
Kamloops used to be one of the safest NDP seats under Nelson Riis until suddenly it wasn't. Did the community change that much, or was he an inordinately popular aberration?
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u/BackwoodPirate Apr 26 '25
Nelson was popular because he was easy to approach, was genuinely concerned about his riding and his constituents and wasnt afraid to make his voice heard.
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u/Radiant-Algae9276 Apr 26 '25
Kamloops is not maga as they come. Most Kamloopsians are centre right.
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u/MildlyChatty Apr 27 '25
I'm a centre left 50 plus Kamloopsian. I'm sure there are many more of us out there. I'm a grandparent, too, and I'm thinking about the Canada and planet that I hope my grandkids will have when I'm long gone.
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u/CanadianLabourParty Apr 28 '25
The riding is largely left. It's usually around a 65/35 split between Left and Right parties. BUT what tends to happen is 30% of the vote goes to NDP 30% goes Liberal, 35% Conservative and the last 5% to other, hence Conservative dominance in this riding. In previous years, that Other was either Greens (who are historically a left-wing party. Nowadays, they're a mix of anti-vaxx, anti-science, pot smokers that have somehow tied Libertarian and Communist ideals together. It's whack. Then you have Elizabeth May who is a drunken moron. She's the equivalent of your interfering MIL who thinks she knows best when it comes to everything - she means well, but fuck is she annoying.
If Strategic Voting happens in this riding and the NDP/Liberal voters combine, then it won't be Frank Caputo, but more like Frank Kaput.
Here's hoping strategic voting prevails. Do your own research on strategic voting on this riding. If Frank Caputo loses, it'll be ANOTHER nail in Pierre Poilievre's political career's coffin.
Do your thing Kamloops.
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u/nowherelefttodefect Apr 26 '25
Anything right of Obama is "maple maga" to these people
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u/CarelessGeologist769 Apr 27 '25
Obama was centre right… but yes, he is a minority, and generally they’re left leaning. Obama had to be a peacekeeper, being black didn’t help, being left would make it worse. Biden was centre left.
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u/nowherelefttodefect Apr 27 '25
Your perception of the political spectrum is completely and utterly fucked.
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u/CarelessGeologist769 Apr 27 '25
Buddy, stop taking things personally, it makes things emotional/irrational.
I remember obamacare being amazing. I remember drone strikes being normalized. When I try to remember more, I start taking things personally. It makes things irrational. I should take me own advice.
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u/nowherelefttodefect Apr 28 '25
In what way did I take anything personally?
Obamacare fucking sucked. You fell for propaganda and a cult of personality.
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Apr 26 '25
how is Mr. Jackson an "awful combination of Elon and Trump"? Do you have a verifiable example?
You have 'residential schools' in your backyard. i have six graveyards within 5km of my home -- what's the concern?
MAGA? where are these MAGA people you so fear...where can i read about them?
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u/WandersongWright Apr 27 '25
Overall, things are trending towards the Liberals. However, in your riding, that may not be the case at all. That doesn't mean that people aren't voting/supporting Liberals, it just means the people in your area (or the people you spend time with) are not.
Canada's really huge, different regions are living totally different realities.
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u/SoLetsReddit Apr 26 '25
It's Kamloops, a conservative stronghold. Don't be surprised when the local MP is a conservative.
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u/ejactionseat Apr 27 '25
It's just you, Con voters are social lepers in my neck of the woods, and for pretty good reason too.
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u/MississaugaGMan Apr 26 '25
The algorithm will not even let you look down the other rabbit hole if you want to they feed you the things that are going to get your strongest reaction to sell clicks and or sway outlooks......
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u/benuito Pine View Apr 26 '25
I'm only getting Conservative messaging. Liberals may have more money so they're blasting everything. Already voted so it's wasted on me.
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u/Unfair_Valuable_3816 Apr 26 '25
provinces are different. but for example here in my town recently a guy said he was a liberal voter and his wife kinda pulled his shirt a bit and said your shouldnt be saying that out loud. the older man behind him says " thats like swearing in a church." its different everywhere. this was in a retail store line
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u/priberc Apr 26 '25
You are in Kamloops. Kamloops has what…. 100k people. That’s 100k in region that as far as I know is deeply Conservative. If the media you are listening to/reading is looking at the election with a broader/country wide perspective. Well it could look much much different.
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u/ynotbuagain Apr 27 '25
SO EXCITING🇨🇦 CDNS have an opportunity to make it clear hate & division is WRONG. maple Magas & pp colluding with Elon/Putin/Trump is EVIL!ELBOWS UP, go to www.smartvoting.ca, do not split the vote, 1 PC seat is 1 too many!
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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 27 '25
Not enough buzz words
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u/ynotbuagain Apr 27 '25
STAND UNITED & STRONG!!! Stay FOCUSED canada DO NOT let pp SELLOUT to trump! Be sure to vote! www.smartvoting.ca
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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 27 '25
Perfect thx
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u/ynotbuagain Apr 27 '25
SELLOUT PIERRE continues to tank in the polls! I guess his propaganda rhetoric that Canada is broken is biting him in the ass! ANYTHING BUT CONSERVATIVE always ABC! www.smartvoting.ca
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u/brycecampbel Aberdeen Apr 27 '25
Cultural, and for a while, "liberal" or even just being progressive is just a path to arguements in today's society.
The progressive vote has essentially moved to silent affiliations.
Progressives don't need political affiliation to be a personality trait.
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u/energythief Apr 27 '25
Everyone on my social media feed except myself and three other people are constantly spamming with PP propaganda. It's just your algorithm.
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u/RefrigeratorAway3670 Apr 27 '25
Kamloops is a very conservative place. People have been electing conservatives there since the early 2000s. Look at the stupid mayor.
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u/SuperNinTaylor Apr 27 '25
That's because most big media is biased. That's why they shouldn't be funded. Obviously they are going to support the ones that give them money. Yes there are HEAVILY biased right wing media groups, such as Rebel News but those aren't the ones you see online or on TV as much as you would CBC. Also, I don't know ow the science behind it, but Reddit seems to be MASSIVELY and disproportionately right wing biased. I heard there are lots of bots, so that could be part of it, but I think something about Resdit just attracts left wing people.
Anyway, 90% of people I interact with are in support of Conservatives, and I work customer service.
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u/Standard-Morning-189 Apr 27 '25
Yes definitely. I've noticed the Cbc comes up to bat for the liberals often. It seems Mark Carney has been positioned by the legacy media as the choice of the establishment. I'll be sad if he becomes the PM since it will be clear how well propagandized we are in Canada.
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u/23qwaszx Apr 27 '25
The CBC wants another $600,000,000 promised by the Liberals over the next four years. The CBC shouldn’t be legally allowed to report on the election with the blatant conflict of interest.
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u/23qwaszx Apr 27 '25
CBC wants an extra $150,000,000 a year added to their $1,209,000,000 govt budget the liberals have promised.
How could they be allowed to even report on the election and hold debates with this blatant conflict of interest. The liberal election platform promising money and the conservative platform promising to cut the budget.
How is that not illegal for them to even report at this point.
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u/PropertyVegetable89 Apr 27 '25
Interesting, must be the circles we have around ourselves. Mine is all team Carney. Every conversation we have with our circle of friends, they are all for a more progressive win, but we see so much Conservative advertising on every tv channel and social media. It may be that I am in an area that could swing, so the parties are all spamming their message to the masses to push the undecided.
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u/RoyalRidgeway Apr 27 '25
I feel the same way. Even my family members that have traditionally voted Liberal and NDP are/have voted conservative. 90% of the signs I see on people's lawns are conservative, and almost everyone else that I've talked to under the age of about 40, say they are/have voted conservative.
However, everything I see online, and from the media would have me believing it's going to be a liberal landslide.
I have a feeling this is going to be a similar situation to November in the USA.
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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 27 '25
Honestly that’s how it always is why do you think everyone was confused for the American elections. At this point all I want is a non biased fair assessment of the parties and what they stand for but instead you get the news spewing outrageous lies like (can’t remember which I was watching one of the Canadian news channels) polls show that blank party is failing and blank party is leading but when I looked at the graph it was 1000 people polled. Like how tf do you get even close to an accurate representation of even a district let alone total voting poll numbers. And they do this to drum up support for the party they like. (They all like the liberals it’s plain as day when watching the news) they have been pushing the ndp are a party falling out of favour stuff for a couple weeks now trying to get their voters to vote liberal out of fear of their vote being pointless.
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u/DamagePhysical9764 Apr 27 '25
Lifelong NDP supporter and have voted in every election my whole long life, but I can’t see my vote being anything but thrown away this election. I have a sister and family voting PC because they want change and their hunting lifestyle aligns with the PC platform. I don’t dislike them for this, I just can’t with PP as the leader. I am inclined to vote Liberal for Carneys economic background because of the very real threat that the shit show in the US will drag us with them to hell. It’s a four year bet we have to place and hope that the people’s choice will do right by the populace. The fact that we will have a more robust turnout means the people of Canada have been prompted to do something rather than sit home and bitch about how much they hate the PM without ever getting off their ass to vote. Even my apathetic nephew who used to run his mouth about Trudeau but not vote will be going to exercise his civic right this election. My elderly father is voting Liberal and he lives in NL. My brother and family live in Edmonton and have been talking about strong PC turnout in local rallies. One family, all over the political map,but none of us are hating on one another because of our choices. This bullshit to the south will hopefully not turn family members against one another like the neighbouring dumpster fire that the USA has become. Go vote and let the majority decide. Whatever the result I will abide by it and trust we collectively made the right decision.
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u/Outrageous_Thanks551 Apr 27 '25
Every time I make a positive comment on the conservatives it gets removed due to lack of karma apparently. Yet, all the people I speak to are voting for change!
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u/cnbearpaws Apr 27 '25
I unno, people keep saying PP supporters are all around us but no one in my circles is going that way. I have yet to find one.
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u/wankmasterflex57 Apr 27 '25
Social media in Canada is monitored by the gov. I get so many comments deleted for saying my opinion. While others can call people names and say what ever they want as long as they are liberal. It’s kinda funny.
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u/Traditional_Fox6270 Apr 27 '25
That’s because you live in Alberta Alberta and Saskatchewan are the only blue provinces… The rest of Canada is red, except for the oil and gas industry area in Southwest Ontario.
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u/middlequeue Apr 27 '25
All of this is anecdotal and not all that meaningful to the bigger picture.
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u/Physical-Village2111 Apr 27 '25
Never saianything about bigger picture. But when 20 other people noticed the same thing or not, you can start notiecing a trend perhaps
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u/middlequeue Apr 27 '25
You really can't determine a trend from your own anecdotal experience - there are millions of people in this country.
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u/Physical-Village2111 Apr 27 '25
I was asking the community where I live, not the country. I was sasking not to determine the election outcome, but to see if my circle of people is a true representative of the community i live.
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u/middlequeue Apr 27 '25
Your riding has over 110k people in it. Your sample isn't indicative of that either.
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u/Physical-Village2111 Apr 27 '25
Dude, all I was asking was to see how my fellow community mambers think. I am not taking this for granted, but sure, it will give me a better idea than not asking at all. If one political party targets this region more than the other, we will all notice that.
Again, I am not taking this the reddit comments for granted or to be the truth, but you gotta chill a bit and let people talk. We need more talk and less negating and telling why conversations like this are anecdotal, and perhaps you wanted to say pointless.
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u/Legal-Cow1541 Apr 27 '25
It's the opposite actually here in Embrun ontario. So many conservatives bots on social media but talking to people around seems liberal is definitely i
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u/homeless_man_jogging Apr 27 '25
I don't know about you but I don't hang out with the type of people who would vote conservative. Their conversation is unbearably unintelligent.
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Apr 27 '25
Feels like there is two reality around me, one that lives in my cell phone screen and the other out and about
Uhm, no offence but, duh? You live in a riding that has elected the CPC candidate in every election since the electoral district was created back in 2004, of course you’re going to hear people supporting the Conservatives when you’re out and about.
You’re not observing a trend, you’re just seeing the variations in opinion between the bubble you live in and the people outside of it.
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u/Physical-Village2111 Apr 27 '25
But, the groups on the social media from the community are overrepresented by liberals. So i get you point for the out and about, but its kinda going agains everything you said when you look at the online community groups
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Apr 28 '25 edited Apr 28 '25
Which online community groups? Either way, the mere fact they’re online means they’re going to be populated by the younger demographics, and younger demographics are less likely to lean conservative anyway.
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u/AthanasiosL Apr 27 '25
Online is a stage for the loud minority, people who thrive on drama and validation, thinking that hashtags and likes make them important. Meanwhile, in the real world, it’s just regular folks going about their lives, working hard, and not needing to scream for attention. It’s easy to get lost in the echo chamber, but step outside, and you’ll see the quiet majority that doesn’t need to perform to make a real impact.
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u/D0fus Apr 28 '25
The liberals have a significant lead from advance voting. All they need is 50/50 tomorrow. Poilievre will never be Prime Minister.
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u/Canadiancrazy1963 Apr 28 '25
All I see are pp con adds everywhere.
Still ain’t voting for the mini trump.
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u/FarAd7602 Apr 28 '25
They are using their propaganda machine to do one last push at influencing the weak and the useful idiots.
No one seems to give a fuck about the corruption of the liberals just "reeee trump and repubs endorsed the cons, the fascists reee pearl clutching!"
But seem to be OK with Chinese interference and influence with the liberals. Which on paper more people have died through communism than fascism hoped to dream.
I for one am tired of seeing the same ads on youtube
Sellout sighn Polliere isn't the right choice Carney wants us in more debt
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u/mtbyeg Apr 28 '25
Not just you my friend. Reddit and social media in general is a damn good echo chamber....enchanced by bots and bad actors to push specific narratives.
On here, it's liberala are going to wipe the the floor with conservatives. On Twitter it's the other way around.
In real life - people want change. We have a sluggish economy, unsustainable immigration without adequate job growth and housing. Pack on rising crime and rising taxes on top and regular old joes like me and my family are fatigued.
Liberals had a decade to cook and here we are. I want to try the other menu now and there's many others that feel the same.
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u/JCox1987 Apr 28 '25
In Kamloops? Look I’m an outsider and a liberal partisan but those seats are likely going to the Tories. I think there’s two seats that make it up. Chock it up to your area in particular. It doesn’t mean it’s going to be that way across the country.
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u/Eddieslabb Apr 28 '25
People NEED to vote. I fear we're going to drift into the "he's too crazy to win" complacency that allowed 45 to 47. Canada must do better.
Here in Alberta, sadly, minds can not be changed that L is always bad for us. That's the impact of relentless messaging 😕
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u/Dizzy_Mechanic7810 Apr 28 '25
Media is liberal paid, they are gonna say liberals are gonna win.
Listen to the actual people around, no one is standing for this anymore. As canadians we need to prosper and we never will under the liberal regime.
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u/Houserichmoneypoor Apr 28 '25
I totally notice it. Online it seems like liberals have it in the bag, but I only know like 10 people who actually plan to vote for them, everyone I work with is voting conservative, the 10 people I know voting liberals are the ones who rely heavily on the social programs, and 6 of them are just lazy bastards who refuse to do anything themselves.
To be honest those 6 are probably not even going to get out to vote anyways.
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Apr 28 '25
Liberals have been running hard on Reddit and social media. If you even mention conservatives, they downvote like crazy so you don’t see the comments.
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u/AntJo4 Apr 29 '25
And you have just discovered the « echo chamber » and confirmation bias. The media you are being shown follows an algorithm (the echo chamber), if you aren’t actively seeking out quality news sources they present stuff that is likely to generate a response - good or bad. On the other hand our brains are programmed to identify stimulus that is important to us, to identify patterns that don’t actually exist and filter out things that we have not placed significance on. Ever heard your name spoken in a loud, crowded room? Or suddenly noticing lots of vehicles that look like yours when you buy a new one? Our brains show us what we identify with, and suppress what we don’t to prevent stimulation overdrive.
Moral of the story, don’t believe everything you think. Don’t forget to question the source of your evidence.
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u/GraniticDentition Apr 29 '25
another "surprise comeback" or "last minute win" for the incumbent establishment party (that happens to be mired in corruption scandal)
this is what Our Democracy looks like
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u/Few_Bodybuilder_6872 Apr 26 '25
Bud that's just backwash BC, worse, interior cesspool. Love from the east, we'll make PP cry in 2 days
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u/crysaital Apr 26 '25
Yeah, it really sucks living in the best province in Canada. Clown
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u/Few_Bodybuilder_6872 Apr 26 '25
I tried it for 5 years and had to gtfo. But yes, best for sure. Don't burn yourself this summer
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u/crysaital Apr 26 '25
I'm so glad you left.
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u/CarelessGeologist769 Apr 26 '25
Why did you come?
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u/Few_Bodybuilder_6872 Apr 26 '25
Came for love, she decided to try moving back east and we've been happily married for 16 years
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u/jaydublya250 Apr 26 '25
Saw a bunch of Currie supports out on the halston overpass yesterday. Didn’t hear many horns
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u/Kamsloopsian Apr 26 '25
I don't need someone to tell me how to vote, I'll do that on my own, I think.
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u/Impervial22 Apr 26 '25
This is exactly what’s happening lol. Libs seems to migrate to online to vent and cons seem to talk in person
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u/Electrician_PLer Apr 26 '25
I am always cautiously conservative around people. You can’t be even slightly right leaning in the lefts eyes without being MAGA, Trumper, cancel all program etc. I think there’s a lot of people out there that are just quiet about voting conservative.
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u/mostlygroovy Apr 26 '25
Probably because of ridiculous behaviour like the ‘freedom’ parade, the fuck Trudeau flags, signs, stickers, etc.
I understand you may be cautious, but many conservatives have been anything but subtle or subdued the last 10 years.
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u/Visible_Fact_8706 Apr 26 '25
Not all conservatives are racists, Maple MAGA, homophobes. But all racists, Maple MAGA, homophobes are conservative. Unfortunately, marginalized groups don’t have the luxury of determining which flavour of conservative someone is.
“Fiscal conservative” is a misnomer. CPC is not fiscally responsible, it’s just marketing. See also: Reaganomics.
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u/NBDad Apr 28 '25
Fiscal conservatives is a throw back to the "red tory" days. The current iteration of the CPC hasn't been in that realm since the 70s? 80s? They USED to be about tight knit community and fiscal restraint. Nowadays they're basically a rebranded "reform" party.
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u/Visible_Fact_8706 Apr 28 '25
Absolutely. The current Conservative Party is a joining of the Progressive Conservative Party with the Reform Party.
The Reform Party are currently the ones calling the shots, and it’s been clear since they ousted O’Toole.
Carney is more of a red Tory, he’s basically a PC’s dream. I think that may be why Carney polls so well with older Canadians, who are fairly moderate, but include more of the old PC voters that actually remember the PC. I don’t have sources, just speculation.
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u/Deep_Imagination3023 Apr 26 '25
That is incorrect. I’m sure most bigots are conservative leaning but there are millions of bigoted liberals
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u/Visible_Fact_8706 Apr 27 '25
There will always be outliers. But I’d be interested to hear about these millions of bigoted Liberals.
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u/ElectroSpore Apr 26 '25
People have increasingly become less tolerant period.
If you send someone to something like https://votecompass.cbc.ca/ and have them honestly answer the questions almost no one directly lines up with any party but will be closer to one set of polices than another.
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u/switchingcreative Apr 26 '25
I agree. But flying a F Trudeau flag doesn't help. Have you ever scene a F Poilievre flag? I haven't.
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u/Physical-Village2111 Apr 26 '25
Overall, however, it is in power. People are more vocal than they do not like. I have seen f poilievre bumper stickers few in kamloops and was a bit surprising since he has not been in power.
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u/switchingcreative Apr 26 '25
One thing I've noticed is people want change. Period. There's such a strong hatred for Trudeau that they'll vote for a bag of chips... no matter what. Which is scary. I thought Trudeau had to go a few years ago but conservatives aren't what I'm looking for either.
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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 27 '25
Really how haven’t u there are signs everywhere even a billboard in Ontario
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u/NBDad Apr 28 '25
Harper literally had a law put in that would have made flying a Fsck whoever flag a crime. Trudeau repealed it...which is hilarious. The only reason the cucks in trucks can FLY a Fsck Trudea or Fsck Carny flag...is because of the Liberals :D
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u/alaskadotpink Apr 27 '25
I never had a problem with conservatives until everything started being "too woke", and I'm about as left as they come. I know moderate conservatives who manage to not be socially regressive.
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u/RoyalRidgeway Apr 27 '25
This is true, the left tends to use character assassination, and false claims on anyone that is even slightly right of center (racist, sexist, uneducated, hate minorities, etc). Really makes people hesitant to be open about their views, for fear of losing their job, relationships, or even death threats.
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u/Diligent-Fact-309 Apr 26 '25
Definitely see the same trend… it was the same with the US election…judging by what I saw in the media Kamala was going to win by a landslide.
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u/Quietbutgrumpy Apr 26 '25
It appeared to me the media was supporting Harris but all the polls said Trump.
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u/twotoonies Apr 26 '25
I was fed the same information as you. Polls all suggested Trump but all of the pendants were saying Harris.
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u/PayOne86 Apr 26 '25
The polls were predicting Harris , she was all but guaranteed to take all the swing states .
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u/nowherelefttodefect Apr 26 '25
The polls were not predicting Harris. Any proper aggregating and weighting of the polls made it clear that it was going to be close with several swing states being tossups but leaning Trump.
People see what they want to see in polls.
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u/professcorporate Apr 27 '25
This re-writing of history that people keep on chanting is truly bizarre. You know that the polling history, from just a few months ago, is easily checkable online for the people who've forgotten it, right?
Look at aggregation. Electoral Vote is a good one - their election day posting https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2024/Pres/Maps/Nov05.html had statistical ties (leads less than the margin of error, and thus impossible to declare) in Nevada, Arizona, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina, and Georgia. Flash forward a couple of days to the real life results (https://www.electoral-vote.com/evp2024/Pres/Maps/Nov10.html), aaaaaand: Statistical ties in Nevada, Minnesota, Wisconsin, Michigan, Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Georgia.
The polls were telling us that it was an unpredictable toss-up, and that's exactly what happened.
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Apr 26 '25
i have faith in the logical people of Canada to make the decision that enables Canada to be an Economic Powerhouse.
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u/Birdybadass Apr 26 '25
I experience the same thing and I’ll say this, if the CONS win I’ll actually change my mind and support defunding the CBC. If they’re that far off base with their projections and representations it could only be a result of inappropriate interference.
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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 27 '25
Honestly fair they have the liberals winning by landslide. And if they are wrong it was purely because they were trying to push an agenda. Kinda like the American news channels that pushed Kamala
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u/Ruttagger Apr 26 '25
My experience is Conservatives don't post and chat about it, they just go vote.
Probably due to my industry, my age, and the crowd of friends I have, but I personally don't know many liberal or NDP supporters.
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u/RustyIreland Apr 27 '25
On Yahoo News they are doing a poll. So far over 100,000 people have voted and Pollievre has received 74% of the votes for PM compared to Carney receiving 26%. I find that a bit weird and worrisome. Pollievre is too Trumpy for my liking and if he wins, there goes our democracy. He’ll sell Canada to Trump for a buck!
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u/Inevitable_Librarian Apr 27 '25
I hate this framing of Canadian politics.
You vote for your MP not the prime minister.
I'm also worried about PP getting in, but I really wish we returned to local candidates making the election.
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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 27 '25
I get what you are saying but what has your mp done for you mine hasn’t done anything so I’m voting against him and his party this time
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u/Inevitable_Librarian Apr 27 '25
Yeah? That's exactly what I'm saying. Mine has done less than nothing, so I agree completely.
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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 27 '25
I know ur gonna be mad but I’m voting conservative first time ever because my job keeps getting cut worse and worse my company which does saftey in oil and gas has decreased from about 250 people down to about 100 in the last 6 years and some of that is covid but most of it is the constant cuts to oil and gas that the liberals keep making.
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u/Inevitable_Librarian Apr 27 '25
What are you talking about? I'm not a Liberal supporter, but you've been sold a lie by a very successful propaganda campaign.
There's been no cuts to oil and gas from the liberals (actually). It's a major sticking point for most from the environmental side of the aisle.
The liberals bought and expanded the transmountain pipeline. Your company isn't going to get better under the conservatives, because they're not looking to invest in oil and gas, their idea of "investment" is tax cuts for the foreign companies that own oil and gas.
What's happened is that American domestic oil production has skyrocketed the last 8 years (actually), and the cost per barrel of Canadian crude is too high when you're looking at the sale price per barrel.
The companies have been cutting staff, the oil and gas sector is doing what it's done every fucking time we have done the "pretend Canada is a petrostate" thing and imploded.
There's a good reason we stopped producing as much oil after the 80s crisis, and why Harper's dumbass eggs in one basket approach was criticised at the time.
It's because oil and gas is boom and bust, and basically none of the at-scale Oil/Gas producers are Canada-based. So every dollar out of the ground that isn't paid to employees leaves the country.
To add, the provincial conservatives in Alberta are largely responsible for the bust being so bad there, because they cut taxes to oil and gas during the boom rather than raise taxes to prepare for the inevitable crash(this has happened SO MANY FKING TIMES).
Vote for whoever you like, I'm not going to be mad at you. I just hate lies.
PP has zero actual plans for oil and gas however, he's in the pocket of the international owners. Mark Carney's plans are real, I'll be voting for Liberals for the first time ever.
PP knows zero economics, hasn't worked a real day in his life, and took EIGHT YEARS to get his bachelor's degree in nothing, while putting forward zero bills and doing no work.
I haven't seen a single conservative candidate have a plan for anything that isn't culture war BS or unconstitutional promises locally either.
Vote for whoever you like, I support you. Just please double check what these people are saying, they lie through their teeth about how everything fits together.
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u/Leather-Account8560 Apr 27 '25
All I remember is my company losing a whole division and laying off almost 50 people in one fell swoop when ndp got in and were openly antagonistic in Alberta and sure liberals have been doing the bare minimum but I worked oilfield when Steven Harper was pm and even if he was a awful dude I had a job that paid well and that matters more than 99% of other things to me.
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u/Inevitable_Librarian Apr 27 '25 edited Apr 27 '25
The Alberta NDP and the federal liberals weren't openly antagonistic to oil and gas.
The BC NDP were antagonistic to the twinning of the transmountain pipeline. These are different parties with different goals.
The federal Liberals bought the transmountain pipeline to force through the twinning. Spent 5 billion taxpayer dollars and Alberta still acted like it was all Trudeau's fault. Look it up.
Again, you've been sold a lie, because you were busy working when all this went on, so it was easy to manipulate your emotions when everything hit the fan.
Things were only better under Harper because he got lucky. Literally.
The conservatives can't bring back the wealth and jobs you've lost because they sold out Canada to make a quick buck under Harper.
Everything you've lost job-wise Harper is directly responsible for. He left a hand grenade in the Canadian economy by putting all our labor into oil and gas working for international companies whose billionaires he's best buddies with.
You can't vote the good days back, because Harper got lucky, and the conservatives are very lucky that their supporters don't understand how to do systemic analysis.
Again vote for who you want, but Carney has a lot of investment in Alberta and the oil/gas sector/employees in his platform, whereas PP literally has "woke" and tax cuts.
The conservatives are the equivalent of your buddy who won 10k the lottery once, and is promising that if you just give him all your money he'll win it again "because he's good for it".
Harper left a hand grenade and got voted out right in time for it to go off.
Again, I can't stress this enough, I support you voting for whoever you think is best. I just don't like people believing in lies.
The biggest reason Trudeau couldn't fix it is because Harper gave these companies decade long contracts, and the conservative provinces have spent the entire time trying to block him from doing anything. The way the constitution is written, it's mostly provincial.
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u/CanadianLabourParty Apr 28 '25
Yeah...Yahoo News is ANOTHER branch of Faux News bullshit. Get another source.
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u/chernsy Apr 27 '25
I feel like it’s because us conservative voting people are hardworking middle class out and about and do not have time to be online talking about voting for liberals. We need change. I used to be a liberal years ago but now I have converted. Most of these liberal people are behind their phones, on disability for the next paycheque as they can be lazy at their home and be in their “feelings” and “rights” the conservative are not going to get rid of your rights!!
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u/Mashcamp Apr 28 '25
HA! I'm a hard working middle class and I'm not voting for conservatives and never will. Blanket statements like that don't help your argument.
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u/TrueMacaque Apr 27 '25
Pretty easy to explain You are presumably consuming primarily national media in a regional area. Carney is a widely popular candidate particularly in the east, where most national media are centred.
Anyone interested in Pierre's economic philosophy?
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u/MrQTown Apr 26 '25
When you subsidize the media and the other guy won’t you own the media. End of story.
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u/Rosenmops Apr 26 '25
Reddit and the mainstream media are well known to be strongly biased left.
If you want another viewpoint, watch Juno news, moose on the loose, etc on YouTube.
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u/Ham__Kitten Apr 26 '25
The mainstream media is overwhelming owned by a very small handful of centre right capitalists and is not even remotely "left."
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u/nowherelefttodefect Apr 26 '25
Someday you'll learn that "being a rich capitalist" does not mean "right wing".
You're being duped by elites and your ideology has been coopted as a tool of power for themselves.
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u/Ham__Kitten Apr 26 '25
Please explain to me how someone can be a capitalist without subscribing to centre-right or right wing economic principles.
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u/Brodney_Alebrand Apr 27 '25
Mainstream media in the country overwhelmingly supports the Conservatives over the Liberals. It's been that way for years.
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u/Rosenmops Apr 27 '25
You mean CBC? Sure, Rosemary Barton is a big fan of Poilievre!
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u/Brodney_Alebrand Apr 27 '25
No, I mean the majority of private news organisations that have consistently endorsed the Conservative party for years, even as Conservative voters constantly whine about a media bias that doesn't exist.
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u/Illustrious_Dust_316 Apr 26 '25
You’re not alone in noticing that. The liberals have also been very good at disseminating propaganda and disinformation this election cycle
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u/Parkbear Apr 26 '25
Guess it depends on what your social silo is. I don't hear anyone talking about PP positively even among former conservative voters. In my experience when it comes to politics it's always a handful that are very loud while most quietly nod and stay out of the conversation.