r/Kamloops • u/Physical-Village2111 • Apr 26 '25

Politics Observation 48 hours before election day

Is it just me or others have notice the trend that all the social media (including redditt), and all the tv station there is such a big liberal presence and supporting the liberals, but when talking/overhearing conversation in coffee shops, parks, workplaces etc its overwhelming the support for the conservatives.

Feels like there is two reality around me, one that lives in my cell phone screen and the other out and about.

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u/phormix Apr 27 '25

I've got a more than a few people in my circle that are talking about voting conservators, and yeah... funny thing is they don't have much to say about PP or even the Conservatives, just all the things they hate about they Liberals.

To be fair, many of their gripes are legitimate, but so are the complaints about the Democratic party in USA and well.

It's one thing to say "this sucks and needs to change", but people need to look at whether the change they're pushing towards would actually be positive or not.

Canada - like many nations - needs better political choices, but if we choose for the wrong reasons we don't get to just take it back and the future options can be even more grim

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u/tarzanjesus09 Apr 27 '25

I just want the timeline back where Jack Layton could have been prime minister

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u/Empty-Yam773 Apr 27 '25

I want the timeline where trump tripped on the escalator broke his face and decided not to enter politics 

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u/Xiaopeng8877788 Apr 28 '25

They would have tarred and feathered him as a socialist “woke” communist. He would have never gotten elected… which is sad.

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u/tarzanjesus09 Apr 28 '25

I don’t think the world was as polarized then as it is now. It’s shocking to see how far things have progressed since 2011

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u/phormix Apr 27 '25

I want the timeline where lives and became one

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u/tarzanjesus09 Apr 27 '25

It was so close to reality. It’s wild how innocent and wonderful 2011 seems when we look back at it now. Mulcair never stood a chance of living up to that legacy.

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u/phormix Apr 27 '25

I don't l didn't dislike Mulcair as much as many others seemed to either, and the whole "angry Mulcair" thing seemed a bit overrated and even artificial.

In the shadow of Layton he definitely seemed less... refined, but his anger also generally seemed to be for legitimate reasons and (looking at where things have gone in politics) may have been warranted.

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u/hung1ne Apr 27 '25

I want the timeline where Harambe lives

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u/Cuarinus Apr 28 '25

Poilievre has more support than Harper’s majority, Harper only won because he made a deal with Layton. Layton didn’t create the orange wave, Harper did. This time around, the NDP are siding with the Liberals.

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u/Ancient-Training-998 Apr 27 '25

Sadly so many people don’t really understand the parliamentary system - of course each party has its own underlying precepts, foundational views, but it’s also true and important that governments are more largely defined by the leader of the day.

A PP Conservative government would not be a Brian Mulroney Conservative government or even a Stephen Harper Conservative government.

A Mark Carney Liberal government would not be a Justin Trudeau Liberal government or a Jean Chrétien government.

The point is that in our system the leader plays a huge role, a defining role, in government behaviour.

Saying “I can’t vote for the liberals because of Trudeau” is just as silly as saying “I’m voting for PP because I liked Stephen Harper.”

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u/phormix Apr 27 '25

Yeah there's a reason they called it "The Harper government" and "The Trudeau Liberals" etc

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u/bzzhuh May 01 '25

They officially changed their name from "Government of Canada" to "The Harper Government" which is the reason why they called it that.

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u/Anshumansri Apr 27 '25

Can you really vouch for a banker with ties to china? Just like trudsau ? Id rather vote for the guy who's been saying the same thing his whole career

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u/sandstonequery Apr 27 '25

I'm of a demographic where some of the same things this guy has said and voted for his entire career are directly harmful to. Hell yeah I'll take a banker who is not a social conservative.

But also, Pierre's record as a cabinet minister under Harper is in direct opposition to housing affordability, as is the fact that huge housing and rental moguls are in his inner circle.

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u/Anshumansri Apr 27 '25

A banker who's owned by china. Goodluck

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u/sandstonequery Apr 27 '25

Vs someone with zero experience outside of politics owned by the oil patch and real estate moguls? I'll take my chances.

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u/Anshumansri Apr 27 '25

He works for china and Brookfield. He will put us 250 billion in debt on top of what trufeau did. And oh yeah, he was economic advisor since 2020. So basically you're voting for more of the same

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u/NBDad Apr 28 '25

The Liberals propose 130 Billion in new debt. The Conservatives propose 170 Billion as per their costed platform. Reading and math is hard right?

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u/NBDad Apr 28 '25

As opposed to a guy who has spent his entire career saying one thing, but then doing the exact opposite? A career politician with ties to India?

Actions speak louder than words. Look at the actions (or lack thereof) that Pollievre has taken. "15% tax cut!" (actually it's 15% of the lowest bracket (15%) and doesn't actually take effect until 2029...the Liberal tax cut is 4x as large, immediately).

The argument that "he won't take away rights! That's a lie" - Like motherfscker has LITERALLY said he's going to use the notwithstanding clause to force people into treatment. He's LITERALLY going to violate people's protected rights.