Observation 48 hours before election day

[u/Physical-Village2111]

Is it just me or others have notice the trend that all the social media (including redditt), and all the tv station there is such a big liberal presence and supporting the liberals, but when talking/overhearing conversation in coffee shops, parks, workplaces etc its overwhelming the support for the conservatives.

Feels like there is two reality around me, one that lives in my cell phone screen and the other out and about.

[u/Inevitable_Librarian]

I hate this framing of Canadian politics.

You vote for your MP not the prime minister.

I'm also worried about PP getting in, but I really wish we returned to local candidates making the election.

[u/Leather-Account8560 → u/Inevitable_Librarian]

I get what you are saying but what has your mp done for you mine hasn’t done anything so I’m voting against him and his party this time

[u/Inevitable_Librarian → u/Leather-Account8560]

Yeah? That's exactly what I'm saying. Mine has done less than nothing, so I agree completely.

[u/Leather-Account8560 → u/Inevitable_Librarian]

I know ur gonna be mad but I’m voting conservative first time ever because my job keeps getting cut worse and worse my company which does saftey in oil and gas has decreased from about 250 people down to about 100 in the last 6 years and some of that is covid but most of it is the constant cuts to oil and gas that the liberals keep making.

[u/Inevitable_Librarian → u/Leather-Account8560]

What are you talking about? I'm not a Liberal supporter, but you've been sold a lie by a very successful propaganda campaign.

There's been no cuts to oil and gas from the liberals (actually). It's a major sticking point for most from the environmental side of the aisle.

The liberals bought and expanded the transmountain pipeline. Your company isn't going to get better under the conservatives, because they're not looking to invest in oil and gas, their idea of "investment" is tax cuts for the foreign companies that own oil and gas.

What's happened is that American domestic oil production has skyrocketed the last 8 years (actually), and the cost per barrel of Canadian crude is too high when you're looking at the sale price per barrel.

The companies have been cutting staff, the oil and gas sector is doing what it's done every fucking time we have done the "pretend Canada is a petrostate" thing and imploded.

There's a good reason we stopped producing as much oil after the 80s crisis, and why Harper's dumbass eggs in one basket approach was criticised at the time.

It's because oil and gas is boom and bust, and basically none of the at-scale Oil/Gas producers are Canada-based. So every dollar out of the ground that isn't paid to employees leaves the country.

To add, the provincial conservatives in Alberta are largely responsible for the bust being so bad there, because they cut taxes to oil and gas during the boom rather than raise taxes to prepare for the inevitable crash(this has happened SO MANY FKING TIMES).

Vote for whoever you like, I'm not going to be mad at you. I just hate lies.

PP has zero actual plans for oil and gas however, he's in the pocket of the international owners. Mark Carney's plans are real, I'll be voting for Liberals for the first time ever.

PP knows zero economics, hasn't worked a real day in his life, and took EIGHT YEARS to get his bachelor's degree in nothing, while putting forward zero bills and doing no work.

I haven't seen a single conservative candidate have a plan for anything that isn't culture war BS or unconstitutional promises locally either.

Vote for whoever you like, I support you. Just please double check what these people are saying, they lie through their teeth about how everything fits together.

[u/Leather-Account8560 → u/Inevitable_Librarian]

All I remember is my company losing a whole division and laying off almost 50 people in one fell swoop when ndp got in and were openly antagonistic in Alberta and sure liberals have been doing the bare minimum but I worked oilfield when Steven Harper was pm and even if he was a awful dude I had a job that paid well and that matters more than 99% of other things to me.

[u/Inevitable_Librarian → u/Leather-Account8560]

The Alberta NDP and the federal liberals weren't openly antagonistic to oil and gas.

The BC NDP were antagonistic to the twinning of the transmountain pipeline. These are different parties with different goals.

The federal Liberals bought the transmountain pipeline to force through the twinning. Spent 5 billion taxpayer dollars and Alberta still acted like it was all Trudeau's fault. Look it up.

Again, you've been sold a lie, because you were busy working when all this went on, so it was easy to manipulate your emotions when everything hit the fan.

Things were only better under Harper because he got lucky. Literally.

The conservatives can't bring back the wealth and jobs you've lost because they sold out Canada to make a quick buck under Harper.

Everything you've lost job-wise Harper is directly responsible for. He left a hand grenade in the Canadian economy by putting all our labor into oil and gas working for international companies whose billionaires he's best buddies with.

You can't vote the good days back, because Harper got lucky, and the conservatives are very lucky that their supporters don't understand how to do systemic analysis.

Again vote for who you want, but Carney has a lot of investment in Alberta and the oil/gas sector/employees in his platform, whereas PP literally has "woke" and tax cuts.

The conservatives are the equivalent of your buddy who won 10k the lottery once, and is promising that if you just give him all your money he'll win it again "because he's good for it".

Harper left a hand grenade and got voted out right in time for it to go off.

Again, I can't stress this enough, I support you voting for whoever you think is best. I just don't like people believing in lies.

The biggest reason Trudeau couldn't fix it is because Harper gave these companies decade long contracts, and the conservative provinces have spent the entire time trying to block him from doing anything. The way the constitution is written, it's mostly provincial.