Idk, like why did she get fired? Usually though, it's supposed to be done right when you clock on, though this should honestly change to them calling you before you come in/texting you to call them if you don't pick up.
I was fired from a job when I was a teenager, they waited until the end of my shift to do it. If you’re going to let someone go just fucking do it and don’t be a shit sipper and wait until the end of the day. It’s just extra demoralizing when they can you after an already shitty day.
Yeah that's def not the established way of doing it. MAybe they thought they'd give you an extra day of pay, but most people know that anyone would sacrifice that one day to go home if you're just going to get fired, haha. Yeah it's shit emotionally to wait. Just doesn't sit right, fells like they're using you
When I've had to fire people, I'd do it right at the start of their shift, and they'd be paid for the day. I've even covered a cab ride home for someone who got dropped off for work. Sucks that I had to pull the trigger, and I've been on the other side too, so I figured the least I could do was approach the situation with a bit of empathy.
Yeah that sounds perfect. I'd say that the established way is at the beginning of shift, but I'll say, the corporate way doesn't call for the rest of the day getting paid. Though perhaps it should be that way
That’s exactly how it felt, I wasn’t mad about it by any means and in fact because of that. That launched my career into the restaurant industry because my next job was washing dishes and from there I worked my way up the ladder ended up going to culinary school. 33 years and running and I’m still in hospitality lol we are a sick and twisted bunch
Over here, in the US, well, if they did something bad enough, word would get around on them and they wouldn't do it again. As far as firing someone after their shift is done.
Idk I’m fine with getting paid for a day of work and then being able to plan my next day beforehand to begin the job hunt. I really don’t see the logic in saying it’s wrong
Has it ever happened to you ? It’s a different story when you’re on the other side of that barrel. I’m not saying it’s wrong to do, from a business standpoint i absolutely get it. It was just more a moral point of how it’s a shit move from the business is all.
You’re trying to simultaneously say you don’t think it’s wrong to do, while also saying it’s wrong to do. Why is I wrong?
I was being a bit soft in my approach and language there. There really is zero logical reason why it’s wrong to do. This is just a sentiment people commonly repeat because they heard other people say it, but never thought about it and whether or not it made sense. If you have a reason, feel free. But you did in back to back sentences say it’s not wrong and then it is wrong so that is very confusing
Like I said in a moral aspect it’s shit move in a business aspect I see why people would do. It’s truly a double edge, sword, or a real life oxymoron in a sense. Just because it makes sense in the business aspect doesn’t mean I’m for It, I was just saying I understand it. Sorry if that was confusing
Again, you are simultaneously saying in one statement it’s wrong and then also not wrong, and then saying it’s wrong, and when asked for the reason it’s wrong, not giving it, and replying with what amounts to “because.”
If you don’t have a reason why you think it’s wrong, that’s fine. But I don’t know why you’re replying if you’re unable to reply
This doesn’t make any sense. This person is claiming it’s worse to fire them after a paid shift instead of before. Now you’re saying it would be cool to get paid without even having to work. I mean..yeah? I wish people handed my candy and cheeseburgers whenever I please and shoved 100 dollar bills in my pockets when I wake up too. What’s the point here?
Also, why would it be decent to have the come into work for no reason? It makes even less sense.
Being paid for the day you show up to get fired is not some bizarre ask. You had that day planned to work so it's reasonable that the company compensates you for it. Can't turn around and pick up a shift at a different restaurant or something.
So the point is treating employees decently.
Also, why would it be decent to have the come into work for no reason
Tends to be the norm to fire someone in person. But you're right could be done over the phone!
Being paid for the day you show up to get fired is not some bizarre ask
Yes it is…when you’re saying they shouldn’t work but still get paid just for showing up and being let go. That’s not an obvious standard of decency, it’s just paying someone for doing literally nothing. You’re acting like that’s morally superior to paying someone for a full shift of actual work. It’s not. It makes less sense. And the reason you’re bringing it up..again..would be resolved by letting them work their shift and paying them. This is what a job is
You’re also completely sidestepping the original point. The discussion was about people claiming it’s wrong to fire someone after a paid shift, as if before would be better. And your answer to that is “no, it’d be best if we paid them without letting them work at all.” Okay? And why stop there? Should we also pay them for the next day they would’ve worked too? Or maybe a whole week? What are you talking about
If your entire point hinges on “they planned to work that day,” then guess what..the issue is already solved by letting them work and paying them. I don’t understand the disconnect here
Should we also pay them for the next day they would've worked too? Or maybe a whole week? What are you talking about
Yeah that sounds pretty good actually! Great idea.
If your entire point hinges on "they planned to work that day," then guess what..the issue is already solved by letting them work and paying them. I don't understand the disconnect here
No, you simply don't fire someone after a day's work and you make sure they don't miss out on pay. Both can be true at the same time dude
Yeah that sounds pretty good actually! Great idea.
You’re just proving yourself to be completely unserious and unreasonable. Thinking it makes sense in the context of this conversation and reality in general to respond to this with “what if everyone had all the money in the world and no one had to ever work!” is incredibly silly. “Did you know if things were magical and great then things would be magical and great??” lol okay. Great contribution. It totally makes sense as a reply to anything happening here and is a reasonable thing to bring up. This is getting embarrassing
No, you simply don't fire someone after a day's work and you make sure they don't miss out on pay. Both can be true at the same time dude
This is literally incoherent. First, again, you have no provided a single reason why you “don’t” do that. My comment is asking why you don’t do that opposed to doing it before the shift, and then you respond “what if everyone got free money forever”, and then responded with “you don’t do it.” Neither of these are responses and neither of them make sense. This last one is you literally just repeating the premise again.
Also, like I explained here before, firing someone after a days work, is firing them before a days work. So you are arbitrarily applying some imaginary defining line, which you can’t define, because it’s not logically possible to. It would just go on and on eternally.
The second sentence in this paragraph doesn’t in any way logically connect to what came before it
You haven’t thought about a single thing you’ve typed and whether or not any of it makes any sense. I’m not just insulting here, it’s actually incoherent and nonsensical.
Nah mate you want it to be incoherent. You want to not understand and you're pretending it's my writing. But let me break it down:
Firing someone right after a day's of work is just a dick move. I really thought that was obvious from context. Like do you realise what thread you're in...?
Firing them at the start of the day is not some loop that is illogical. You just do it then, pay them for the day (or more) and give them the day off. Sure they still have to come in but given that in person firing is preferred that's just unfortunate
This is not some magical stuff. It's one day's salary. Why are you pretending that is some crazy thing for an employer to pay? Heck should be mandated by law in my opinion. Already the case for me as a salaried employee, if they fire me I get a few months of salary
I did that once. It was good because online apps weren't ubiquitous yet and I was already clean and dressed, fed, caffeinated, and ready for my day- so I managed to get another job before the day was over.
Now, with everything being online, idk how it'd help. I can do apps at midnight while crying into my fuzzy pajamas and no one will know.
Before, getting fired at 5pm on a Friday would've been a dick move and I appreciated having the whole day to actually job hunt. Now it'd be better to work, get paid, and be fired at the end of the shift since no one does same-day interviews.
I'd rather be fired at the end of shift. At least I get paid for the hours then. I'd fucking hate to get ready and drive all the way into work just to be fired and not get paid that day. It'd be a waste of time.
I had a manager fire me on a Monday. She let me work the whole day. Cunt had the business manager all passive aggressive all day. I was right with a lot of the staff. They revolted, manager was fired a few weeks later.
It’s more that businesses will now only hire 1 manager to cover an operation that operates round the clock 7 days a week instead of paying overlapping supervisors so there is always a day and night manager present to deal with issues as they come up and properly support the staff
Usually the HR person fires someone at a hotel that can't be bothered to come in at 7 instead of 8
Overnight people are generally self sufficient and can handle themselves without a manager, she must not have been though
I bet the next time they need to let go of an overnight person they'll either deal with HR complaining about coming in at 7am or ask them to wait for a meeting instead of giving them busy work
I've only seen it once, which was when my bar manager at the time told me (when I first moved up to management) that we were going to fire one of the bartenders. He said not to say anything because he was going to do it at the end of the shift. It made me feel really shitty to he honest. She was having a great day, talking about an upcoming trip she had planned that she was saving for, and I've got to work the same bar with her for hours knowing what's coming. Even worse is she was a decent bartender who was great with guests. The only issue I had was that she didn't clean after herself as much as she could have. The bar manager just fired her because he didn't like her, probably because she wouldn't just fold over when he went on his regular tirades. Suffice to say she did not take it well, and I felt like an asshole.
I’ve been there. It’s awful. The owner of one of the restaurants I worked at simply didn’t like the line cook. The manager had to do the deed at the end of the night. I remember the manager keeping the office door open in case he had to run. SMH…. I became an executive chef and I’ve had to fire several people, but I swore I’d never do that to anyone. And I didn’t. I actually gave one guy a two week notice. I told him he needs to find another job and that he would be taken off the schedule after two weeks. He thanked me.
In 3hrs I get to be the line cook that one manager just doesn't like.
She sent me home Tuesday while having a killer day, literally don't know what happened even after 3 days off to think. I was clean, stocked, ticket times were short. I'd just cleaned my cooler and chef base out and swept then gone to the restroom for about 5min, came back and got told it seemed like my head was elsewhere that day. 7hrs into my 9hr shift.
I should still be asleep but I'm just anxious. It's only 3 of us on weekends, foh, that girl, and me. So there's a solid chance they're just letting me do my last 10hrs and firing me Monday when the real managers are back. She could also send me home today.
It sucks, all it takes is one person. We just don't vibe for some reason, but I didn't realize it was that bad.
I have NEVER worked anywhere where they do it at the beginning of your shift. I've seen people get fired for sexual harassment and they STILL waited till the end of their shift to milk every last working hour out of that person they can.
Probably something dumb like attendance but they needed her for that night so they could onboard her replacement or something, maybe even gave her a speech at the start of the shift that everything needs to be perfect or they would send her packing, with the intention of doing it anyway.
If she's working the graveyard shift, it might have been done first thing in the morning when her manager started which happened to be at the end of her shift. Also a chance she was fired on the spot for something she did that shift (which is likely if this is how she's reacting to being fired).
That's exactly why assumptions can seem so much worse, but yeah, I def wonder if there was a very valid reason to fire her before this. But at the same time, if there wasn't and she always puts in this much effort/return, well I wouldn't do this, but i def can understand it
You make it happen, haha. I'm telling you if you are fired at the end of shift this day in age, well if you do it to enough people, you'll see a negative result because of it. When you're the owner, and heck even if you're management, you want to be on top of current practices. It's just in your best interest, you know what I'm saying?
Oh I get it, but that'll just come off as "don't hire this lady" more than "don't work there". She stands to lose more from that behavior than that hotel does
absolutely, but it depends on where you're located I'm guessing. Like in some places, it's definitely taught that you need to fire with grace. And if you dont, well someone could definitely talk about that in their next interview with another place, like they didn't do me right for a, b, and c reasons. And if they give valid reasons for why they were let go, they could still use that job as previous experience in an interview. I mean my mom practiced and interviewed in FL for awhile and she would collaborate these observations of mine even with the both of us living and working in WA for quite some time.
I worked with a guy who got fired and was told to work the rest of his shift and he actually did it. To be fair he was fired because the week before he told our boss he was going to Toronto to buy a car and was taking the week off and just left instead of getting the time off approved.
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u/Lucky-Acanthisitta86 Jul 12 '25
Idk, like why did she get fired? Usually though, it's supposed to be done right when you clock on, though this should honestly change to them calling you before you come in/texting you to call them if you don't pick up.