Think of it this way. Assume this took place on Tuesday. Let’s say they “were not rude and disrespectful” (only using your words) - and decided to let this person know about their termination as early as possible. They let the employee know end of day Monday because that’s way better than end of day Tuesday, a whole 24 hours sooner! It’s still end of shift. Or would you prefer they terminate the employee at the beginning of Tuesday’s shift? Or would you prefer they call this person at home Monday evening?
I’m not sure what your expectation is to let this employee go to not be “rude and disrespectful”
Please - let me know what time you think is acceptable to not be “rude”
The most respectful and professional time to inform an employee of their termination is before their next scheduled shift begins, ideally before they arrive at work. That means either at the end of the previous workday, if the decision has already been made, and you’re allowing them to choose whether to finish that shift or not, or by phone or email that evening, if you don’t catch them in person before they return, or at the very start of the next shift, before they begin working.
What’s considered rude isn’t the exact time on the clock it’s knowingly allowing someone to work while concealing the fact that their employment is already over. That comes off as using them, which is why it’s seen as disrespectful. Respectful termination gives the employee the dignity of informed choice.
This is just scooting among the goalpost over and over. As they were saying here, using your own reasoning, firing them at the end of their shift, is firing them before their next shift. They are asking you to identify this defining line you’ve arbitrarily applied, because in reality you won’t be able to. Before a shift is also after the last shift. After a shift is before their next shift. The moment you actually attempt to describe what it is you’re even saying and provide a reason it’s wrong, you’ll see you won’t be able to, no such reason exists, and all of this is just you and other people blindly repeating a phrase or sentiment you heard other people repeat without thinking about whether or not it makes sense
Yes, and you’re being intentionally obtuse by ignoring the context. The issue isn’t when the firing happened on the clock. it’s that management already knew she was by being let go before the shift started and still made her work the full day. That’s why people see it as disrespectful. it’s using someone’s time and labor under false pretenses. If they had told her before the shift, she could’ve made choices about finishing the shift, saying goodbye, or just not showing up. Pretending that “end of shift” is automatically fine misses the point entirely.
You’re going in circles man. They did fire her before her shift. Tomorrow’s shift. You would rather she come in and then fire her first thing? I’m just trying to understand your original argument that it was rude to fire her at the end of her shift
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u/safe-viewing Jul 12 '25
Think of it this way. Assume this took place on Tuesday. Let’s say they “were not rude and disrespectful” (only using your words) - and decided to let this person know about their termination as early as possible. They let the employee know end of day Monday because that’s way better than end of day Tuesday, a whole 24 hours sooner! It’s still end of shift. Or would you prefer they terminate the employee at the beginning of Tuesday’s shift? Or would you prefer they call this person at home Monday evening?
I’m not sure what your expectation is to let this employee go to not be “rude and disrespectful”
Please - let me know what time you think is acceptable to not be “rude”