r/KitchenConfidential • u/tedcruzzodiackiller0 • 17h ago
Cinnamon in the hatch queso
Why? We may never know
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u/BoneYardBirdy 17h ago
How... how does it taste?
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u/FooBarU2 17h ago
Let me be an idiot:
It's got a Cincinnati Style chile vibe?
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u/thetempleofdude 15h ago
The one time I had that, I tasted more clove than cinnamon
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u/drivein2deeplftfield 11h ago
The cinnamon is very subtle. Everyone gets told it’s in there before they try it because it’s an unusual spice for traditional chili giving most people a pre conceived negative bias. Also comparing it to traditional chili also sours peoples opinion, even being from cincy, i think of it as chili only by name, it is much more adjacent to a meat sauce/bolognese
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u/Ocel0tte 4h ago
Cinnamon is in a lot of savory things!
I can't have it, and I love all of the things it's in. Chinese Five Spice is an easy one (rip my orange chicken recipe). Some blends of Jamaican jerk seasoning use it. Oaxacan mole, the dark one that uses chocolate. Pho broth. A lot of BBQ sauce. Cheap spaghetti sauce. Old El Paso frozen bean and cheese burritos.
The list is long. I'm like a human cinnamon detector, unfortunately I detect it by going half blind lol. It gives me migraines with aura.
Since it's not a common allergen (even my thing isn't an allergy), it doesn't have to be explicitly listed in labels. The label often just says "spices" and a lot of things can be under that word.
Also, camphor is a species of cinnamon. It's in Carmex. Worst 3 days ever before I thought to google the ingredients. At least it wasn't a stroke, I guess.
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u/FooBarU2 2h ago
Wow... thanks for sharing and I'm sorry for what you've been through and still going through..
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u/johnwynnes 16h ago
Just the words Cincinnati Style Chili alone are upsetting to me. Jail the entire state of Ohio for allowing it to proliferate.
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u/rayofgoddamnsunshine 14h ago
As a Canadian, I don't think I know what Cincinnati style chili even is.
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u/GreatBigHomie 14h ago
It's like a thin meat sauce with flavors of cinnamon that will go on top of spaghetti, sometimes with onions and beans and loaded with a fuck ton of cheese.
It actually has a cool history but people love to shit on it because they're haters.
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u/pacingpilot 14h ago
Don't forget the cheese coneys. So delicious.
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u/GreatBigHomie 13h ago
For sure. But cheese coney isn't necessarily just a Cincinnati chili kind of thing.
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u/johnwynnes 13h ago
Detroit style coney chili has depth and spice, and isn't (usually) as runny and sloppy
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u/70stang 14h ago
It has an interesting history, but that doesn't make it any more edible.
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u/GreatBigHomie 14h ago
Okay but have you had it poured over cream cheese and topped with shredded cheese and dipped with tortilla chips?? 🤌🏼🤌🏼
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u/70stang 14h ago
No, because if anything, that sounds even worse than the standard way of eating it.
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u/RealEzraGarrison Ex-Food Service 14h ago
Seriously, it's one of the absolute top food sins, should not exist
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u/GoatLegRedux 11h ago
Macedonian meat sauce that someone along the way decided would be better marketed as chili and then they put it atop spaghetti.
Honestly, the only sin is in calling it chili cuz the Texans get super offended if you call anything that’s not chili peppers and meat “chili”.
But who gives a fuck what Texas thinks, right??
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u/johnwynnes 14h ago
Please don't listen to anyone trying to rationalize it. It's an absolute abomination. Often topped with Cheddar cheese, it's in the vicinity of prison style spaghetti bolognese (but with cinnamon and sometimes cocoa), it's a high crime.
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u/MukdenMan 14h ago
It’s a Cincinnati thing mainly. You can get it in other parts of Ohio but it’s not that common and it’s only Skyline that exists outside of Cincinnati.
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u/fuckyourcanoes 13h ago
It's really not bad. It's not chili, but it's not bad.
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u/johnwynnes 13h ago
It not actually being chili may be one of my main issues actually, you've unlocked something in my anti-cincy-chili hatred manifesto
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u/Glittering_Source189 20+ Years 11h ago
Cincinnati is more Kentucky than Ohio, that border ain't real
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u/tedcruzzodiackiller0 17h ago
I honestly couldn’t bring myself to try it.. but I do still wonder. The smell was off putting to say the least haha
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u/sLeeeeTo 15h ago
really?? no one gave it even a little taste?? it’s just cinnamon lol
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u/unbelizeable1 14h ago
When I see fuck ups like this I jump to try the abomination lol. The curiosity is just too much.
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u/MoeSzyslakMonobrow 14h ago
I mean, I add a cinnamon stick to my chili. It's a warning spice, so it might not be completely out of place, as long as it stays subtle.
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u/TheGinger_Ninja0 13h ago
I'm with you on this one. Cinnamon can actually be a good addition to Tex Mex or other spicy styles, as long as you keep it subtle.
I would at least taste this cinnamon queso
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u/sweetpea122 8h ago
Says people eating "Tex Mex". Speaking of abominations. Ill die on this hill. Tex-Mex is terrible. Its usually just something Mexican with a horribly reverberated microwave or beige food
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u/limbomaniac 16h ago
Pumpkin Spice Hatch Queso!
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u/DancingOnAlabaster 14h ago
Thanks to this Starbucks’ marketing is now on a Pumpkin Spice Hatch Latte crusade for Cinco de Mayo. Civilization has fallen.
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u/All_Hail_Space_Cat 12h ago
Whats fucked up is that in the right location at the right time of year, you could absolutely run that fuck up with that wording as a "special"
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u/littleweirdooooo 17h ago
Was it a lot of cinnamon? I personally like cinnamon in savory dishes, so I'd be down to try it out
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u/hollowspryte 16h ago
I actually only like cinnamon in savory dishes! I would definitely try this
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u/ketamine_denier 3h ago
Cinnamon and allspice rock in cheese sauces and soups, but it’s real easy to overdo
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u/AdministrativeRiot 16h ago
Yeah, my first thought was with the right balance, this could be good with an almost Indian flavor.
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u/illegal_deagle 9h ago
Yeah there’s a taco chain that does a really good red curry queso. Don’t know if it has cumin but it slaps and is unconventional.
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u/DayInTheLifeOfAGod 14h ago
So there was a tea pot on the stove usually reserved for boiling water inside only at home.
One day, as I'm making some spicy ramen and need more water, I decided to use some from the pot. My ramen tasted off, with sweet notes to it. I checked the pot, and my sister had made cinnamon tea water bs.
It wasn't bad, but I wouldn't do it again.
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u/kitterpants 20+ Years 10h ago
Agreed, lots of cultures use warm spices in savory applications and it’s really, really good.
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u/Disastrous_Drag6313 Chef 16h ago
Ooof. I watched a cook pour cinnamon in a quiche custard the other day, which was for broccoli cheddar. "Are you making French toast?" Oops, that was supposed to be nutmeg. "Welp, start over and definitely use less nutmeg than that please"
Same cook later made spaghetti instead of linguine for her dinner set, that she cooks 4 days a week. Some people just don't pay attention.
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u/massedbass 11h ago
Am I the only one bothered by all the sauce around the rim
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u/Aestrad9 8h ago
Probably over filled it initially so it went into the lid when they put it on. Yes bothered 😆
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u/AccomplishedMess648 Ex-Food Service 16h ago
Not as bad as the guy that worked at my dads place he swapped the quantities for the salt and sugar in a chocolate chip cookie recipe.
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u/Loki_the_Smokey 14h ago
that's a pretty understandable and common mistake...
This is devilry at work. I saw the comment that said "thought it was cumin" but according to OP it doesn't even call for cumin. This is just foul lol
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u/peptodismal13 14h ago
How is that a common mistake?!!! Noone puts multiple cups of salt in cookie dough! Even if you have 2 unlabeled bags of white substance one smells like sugar and one smells like salt.
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u/SandmanLM 11h ago
Sugar and salt have no smell difference. You'd have to taste them to know. If you wanted to use your senses.
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u/____LostSoul____ 15h ago
I had someone do that thinking it was paprika or red pepper. We almost never use the cinnamon, so I tossed it in the back storage room.
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u/Traditional-Ad-9000 11h ago
cinnamon and chocolate could enhance depth of flavor in small amounts, depending on the other ingredients
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u/mostoriginalname2 14h ago
Some middle-eastern style sauces have maple syrup in them. Along with cumin and tahini and lemon juice.
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u/RenRazors 9h ago
Northern Mexican cuisine uses cinnamon and clove in a lot a spice profiles. But it’s like just the slightest touch of it.
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u/The-Master-of-DeTox 16h ago
I bet it smelled awful. Cinnamon Overdose is weirdly medicinal smelling. Was this guy on his way out and mad at chef? Like what the actual fuck bro! I hate wasting product but I bet that shit went In the shitbin, where it belonged.
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u/chrund3l 15h ago
One time, my coworker added pepper to our gluten-free pancake batter instead of the chia/ flax seed mix we normally use (':
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u/Helpful_Lie2613 13h ago
Maybe they thought "creamy sauce needs nutmeg. Shit, 86 nutmeg. Cinnamon is close enough, right?"
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u/DisgruntledNCO 12h ago
My mom put cinnamon on deviled eggs once by accident like 20 years ago, and she still beats herself up over it.
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u/DayInTheLifeOfAGod 17h ago
Mistaken the cumin for the cinnamon is my guess.
If not even required idk