r/LaLiga Barcelona 23d ago

💬Discussion LaLiga’s transfer market is a joke compared to other top leagues

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Saw this stat today and it’s honestly embarrassing for LaLiga.

Net spend 2025/26 so far:

  • Premier League: €1 billion
  • Bundesliga: €147 million
  • LaLiga: €28 million
  • Serie A: €2 million

LaLiga used to be the place where top players wanted to go. Now their spending power is worse than the Bundesliga and nowhere near the Premier League. Even Serie A, which has been struggling financially for years, is almost at their level and they are only on €2m net spend.

This isn’t just about clubs being careful with money. It’s about poor league management. Years of Javier Tebas focusing on strict spending caps and TV rights centralization without actually growing the league’s global appeal have turned LaLiga into a selling league.

Players are leaving, global interest is dropping and the gap to the Premier League is now massive. You can’t compete in European competitions if you sell your stars and replace them with cheap or free signings.

LaLiga clubs are now fighting for scraps in the transfer market while the Premier League takes all the best talent. At this rate the league will be irrelevant outside of Real Madrid and maybe Barcelona, and even Barca can’t spend without selling first.

What’s the point of having “financial health” if the league becomes unwatchable?

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u/ZnarfGnirpslla Real Madrid 23d ago

I'm gonna bet my left leg that at least one European competition will have a Spanish finalist though.

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u/sheffield199 Celta 23d ago

I second this comment, specifically with reference to the Europa League and teams from the north of the country.

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u/Poueff 19d ago

Porto Celta final would be dope, it's a shame the stadium is so far away from us

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u/sheffield199 Celta 19d ago

Yeah, I was actually hoping to get the Conference League just cos I think Leipzig would be way nicer for a final than Istanbul.

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u/No-Hawk9008 22d ago

Before Spanish teams used to be good but Premier league teams are taking over, + PSG, and the Italians may come back

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u/sheffield199 Celta 22d ago

Yeah sure, and the Spanish ones may come back as well.

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u/No-Hawk9008 21d ago

I think there is a reason this post was posted.

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u/Choice_Room3901 21d ago

PSG & maybe Bayern sure but I wouldn’t back any bloody Serie A (Prem player reject league) team to beat either Barcelona or Real Madrid this year unless something goes terribly wrong.

Barcelona is still Barcelona Raphina for example & Lewandowski basically had their pick of the world to go to but chose Barcelona.

And PSG might have been a flash in the pan, look at the Club World Cup & this past Super Cup final (although maybe they just didn’t care that much).

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u/No-Hawk9008 21d ago

I m talking about all the uefa club completions the last 3 years, Premier league teams and serial A teams were well presented. PSG is an exception from ligue 1. And now this post shows that those leagues invested more as well. While historically Spanish have done well in uefa league competitions, but the last 3 years they had less success.

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u/Merihem1990 18d ago

but I wouldn’t back any bloody Serie A (Prem player reject league) team to beat either Barcelona or Real Madrid this year unless something goes terribly wrong.

Didn't barcelona get kicked out of the champions league by Inter this season just gone?

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u/Choice_Room3901 18d ago

Yes of course, but I'd say that was more of a freak incident, not likely to happen again at least (they just sacked their manager). That was one of the best games I've probably ever watched though the second leg. Suppose that means we'll hopefully get some good games at least, Napoli could probably produce something at least.

Just on paper I feel like Barcelona or Madrid should handily beat any Italian team.

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u/Merihem1990 18d ago

Yeah I guess that's actually a fair point. When you look at the final too, it's hard to imagine barcelona wouldn't have done better against PSG. Don't think they would've won but I definitely don't think it would've been 5-0.

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u/brt444 23d ago

Where can I get said leg, if there is none?

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u/ZnarfGnirpslla Real Madrid 23d ago

just text me, we'll figure something out

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u/brt444 23d ago

Deal. A free leg is a free leg, you never know when you might need one

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u/OGBlackiChan 22d ago

Probably because Real Madrid are making all their signings by getting players to run down their contracts. Let's include them signing on bonuses and see how things change or those weekly wages since you guys are the biggest spenders.

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u/ZairNotFair 22d ago

Probably. But at some point the sheer financial advantage will just take over the tactical competence. Villarreal for example probably have half the wage bill as Newcastle. Both of them finished 5th.

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u/AMBASSADORofHOPE01 21d ago

Newcastle is owned by the Saudis, the club doesn't need to worry about money

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u/No-Hawk9008 22d ago

Used to be, not now anymore. Madrid is the only one that may have chance. Premier league+ PSG, Bayern teams are taking over

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u/Confident_Resolution 22d ago

so you're betting that at least one team out of 6 will be spanish?

Why not include the women's teams too, then its 1/12.

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u/SunUsual550 22d ago

That may be correct but there is a systemic issue with the competitiveness, or lack of it, in Spanish domestic football which the Spanish footballing authorities have happily sat back and watched unwind.

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u/toadindahole 22d ago

You would have lost your left leg 7 times in the last 30 years 😂

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u/Ok_Union_7669 21d ago

but the way things are going, that won't be the case for long...

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u/Automatic_Leek_1354 Alavés 21d ago

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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula 21d ago

It’s likely. la liga has a small number of clubs who can spend big, whereas Nottingham Forest spent £300M in two seasons.

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u/Psychlone_00 19d ago

I mean we can’t all twist a players ear into betraying there clubs and running down there contracts 😂 some clubs have to burn a hole in there pocket

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u/Maleficent_Monk_2022 19d ago

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u/eganoipse Barcelona 3d ago

Well for the good of the UCL let’s hope it’s me or you, or both of us.

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u/ChargeOk1005 Barcelona 23d ago

I actually don't think this is a problem. Spanish club know how to grow talent. The problem is that most clubs can't keep their talents. What la liga teams need is a bigger wage cap

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u/Gunner_Bat Valencia 23d ago

Should be discounts for homegrown players.

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u/wilsmartfit Barcelona 23d ago

They could take some inspiration from MLS the US league. In the MLS if a player comes from the team’s academy their wages do not count towards the salary cap. This encourages teams to promote youth.

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u/Gunner_Bat Valencia 23d ago

Exactly. Great system.

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u/Various-Cut-7241 22d ago

yeah but why would javier tebas ever do anything to improve the league lmao

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u/tomtomclubthumb 21d ago

Salary caps in Spain are based on club income, they are designed to stop clubs going bust. (if we're being relatively generous)

In MLS salary caps are to hold wages down and maintain owners' profits.

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u/wilsmartfit Barcelona 21d ago

The salary cap was made to keep clubs from going bust in MLS. Because the previous leagues we had all folded because American owners threw money to bring in players like Pele. American sports owners have a stupid amount of money and spend it like no tomorrow. Half the Prem are owned by Americans and you’re seeing it with how much the league spends every window.

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u/tomtomclubthumb 20d ago

I'm not sure that an increase in spending is linked to American owners and profitability is going up.

American sports are much better organised to make owners rich. But American owners like investing in European clubs because the potential is huge and the investment is relatively small. Just the buy in for MLS, let alone actually setting up the club, could buy a championship club and buying an actual franchise in the NFL etc...

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u/sfaticat 21d ago

Not a La Liga fan but why is it a problem? If Im not mistaken in the top 5 leagues Spain has the least amount of foreign players (may be Ligue Un but too lazy to check)

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u/ttttyttt678 22d ago

Doesn’t need a bigger wage gap but rather an exception where academy talent doesn’t count towards the cap.

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u/Traditional_Animal65 22d ago

Uh. I still think it is a seriously alarming trend. I know they've been reigning in clubs' spending and encouraging spending on stadiums etc for the upcoming world cup but they can end up losing broadcasting revenue if the spanish clubs become unable to compete with their European rivals.

La liga better get the next broadcasting rights sale on point

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u/OGBlackiChan 22d ago

Bigger wage cab? Real Madrid spend the most out of any club on wages.

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u/ChargeOk1005 Barcelona 22d ago

I said 'la liga clubs'. Not clubs like Real who have a massive salary cap

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u/sheffield199 Celta 23d ago

Define "unwatchable"? I have watched Celta every week for years with not a sniff of European competition until last season, and managed to watch the league just fine. I couldn't care less about "global interest", having a bunch of Americans watching the league means nothing to me.

La Liga now has the best set of youth academies anywhere in the world, with teams that are incentivised to use them to produce first team players, unlike the Prem who are rewarded for selling their academy products under PSR.

Equally, La Liga doesn't have clubs getting deducted points for financial mismanagement, nor is its dominant club under investigation for massive financial doping. And there's no almost no chance of a top league club going bust, in stark contrast to just 20 years ago.

The league hasn't opened itself up to outside investment in the way the Prem has, and sure that means there's a big financial hit, but it means what remains is more real - I'd rather Celta win one trophy in my lifetime under local ownership than play in the Champions League every year being owned by an oil state.  See this link shared just today in r/soccer for example: https://www.reddit.com/r/soccer/comments/1mp19pa/the_premier_league_clubs_waging_war_on/

There's also the language barrier, the Prem plays on easy mode being the league of the world's global language. La Liga is never going to be able to compete with that.

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u/redvodkandpinkgin Barcelona 23d ago

Much as I hate Tebas the Spanish FFP system I do agree with. Might be paradoxical seeing my flair, but I do think it's important for the governing bodies to ensure the financial integrity of the league.

We can't do much if the other Leagues decide to let their clubs bleed money year after year, but I believe that ensuring sustainability in the long term and discouraging state owned clubs is more important than the teams being able to spend more on the market.

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u/HaydenJA3 Osasuna 23d ago

Discouraging state owned clubs is not just about finances, it’s about having a club that the fans feel more a part of and can be proud of

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u/Tall-Fill4093 4d ago

Remember when half of serie a nearly went under after everyone spending money like drunken sailors in the nineties

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u/Worth-Ad-4969 Barcelona 22d ago

I think it’s mostly unfair and reactionary criticism in this regard. No one who watches other teams in this league will draw a conclusion like “unwatchable”, “poor” & “boring”. Also a lot of young players are being brought up and sold for millions, which is one of the main things a league should prioritise. But it does have some serious issues like any other league.

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u/sheffield199 Celta 22d ago

Yeah absolutely, La Liga has a lot of stuff to work on - longer notice periods for match dates and times, availability of highlights and fairer distribution of TV and competition money being the Big 3 for me.

Anyone saying it's perfect is crazy.

But equally anyone saying it has nothing to offer outside Barcelona and Madrid doesn't know what they're on about.

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u/ThemeVirtual4403 22d ago

La Liga is competitive, don't be fooled by transfer prices, Spanish football is at the top

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

Agreed, there's a huge difference between poor football and disconnect between the fans and the team because it's been bought out an oil state.

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u/Choice_Room3901 21d ago

Mate I’ll tell you what’s fucking “unwatchable” I can’t watch my childhood team Leeds United play at the stadium for less than £70 for a single ticket and £80 for a membership, so £150 in total to watch one game.

And last year in the second division was basically no better - £50 membership & £50 for a single ticket.

So to watch a sub par Premier league team play once it costs more than the Bayern season ticket.

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u/sheffield199 Celta 22d ago

And that makes the entire league unwatchable? There's a lot of great stuff happening outside those three teams.

It's not like the Prem is blessed with a surfeit of different champions either, what is it, two different teams in six years?

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u/7_11_Nation_Army 21d ago

Awesome comment. Cheers! 🥂

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u/mdubs17 Athletic Club 22d ago

I mean, based on this, they're all a joke compared to EPL. Not really anything that can be done about that either.

I will say that I prefer the teams having to focus on youth development. Makes the league still have a Spanish charm to it that you don't get in the other top leagues. Also helps the national team greatly as well.

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u/Comprehensive-Cat-86 21d ago

Maybe its the EPL that's the joke and the rest of Europe is fine? 

Transfer neutral spending just means you sell a player for 50m and buy 1 for 50m (or 2 for 25). I dont see a problem with that approach as long as the standards are being kept. 

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u/babatunde_with_watah 23d ago

Then comes European compititions and and you see a laliga club in all semi finals. They have great academic talents

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u/smmrnights 22d ago

the only one that should be embarrassed is premier league

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u/Comprehensive-Cat-86 21d ago

If i sell you a player for 50m, and you sell Joe a player for 50m, and Joe sells me a player for 50m, net spend is 0 for each of us but league spending is 150m. 

They're just passing (broadcasting) money around between each other.

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u/investormann00 14d ago

Yeah when la liga was on top though during the 2010-2020s it was so great and amazing every season but god forbid another league takes the throne. You all just sound so bitter it’s actually quite sad.

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u/TheTenryuubito 23d ago

They focused too much on making sure no team goes bankrupt and what will happen is that all of them will lose money since the appeal of LaLiga will go down. 

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u/iggy-i 22d ago

What's the alternative?

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u/RafaelSeco 22d ago

Selling to billionaires and oligarchs, of course!

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u/Electronic_Poem_4704 23d ago

And english people have the audacity to moan about saudi

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u/Pheanturim 22d ago

I mean yea? The English government or monarchy aren't pumping money into the prem to artificially increase it's pulling power are they ?

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u/Standard_Diver_3128 23d ago

Prem money is insane

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u/PurpleBudget5082 23d ago

If the best players are already in LaLiga, who are they gonna spend money on?

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u/Yuty0428 22d ago

That’s delusional as clearly that’s not the case except for the top few teams in the league

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u/PurpleBudget5082 22d ago

How come LaLiga dominates Europe?

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u/Confident_Resolution 22d ago

It really doesn't. Since 2022, the PL has had 13 teams advance to at least the RO16 in a European competition. La Liga has had 9. Its behind Italy with 10.

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u/PurpleBudget5082 22d ago

Why did you choose a specific amiunt of time to prove your point?

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u/Confident_Resolution 21d ago

Go back even further if you like - the gap gets wider and wider. I chose three years for convenience. Since 2000, and across a wider selection of stages, it becomes 21 from England, 12 in both series A and La Liga.

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u/Thuram76 22d ago

Rephrase “La liga dominate Europe” to Barca and Madrid dominated Europe, because the rest of that shit league can’t sniff a champions league trophy, the prem has 6 different winners

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u/AMBASSADORofHOPE01 21d ago

You should also rephrase "Barca and Madrid dominate Europe" to " Madrid dominates Europe". It has been more than a decade since Barcelona had won a European competition.

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u/PurpleBudget5082 22d ago

Europe is not only UCL, and Spain also had Atletico which played 2 UCL finals in recent times.

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u/Thuram76 22d ago

You know your league is small when you have to start glazing over the Europa League after the top 2 teams 😂

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u/PurpleBudget5082 22d ago

What other league have to glaze over LaLiga? In the last 10 years LaLiga had most of the semifinalist, and it wasn't only Barca and Real, Atletico and Villareal were there too.

And yes, UEL is a hard trophy to get, Arsenal, Liverpool, United, Barca all failed to win it when they had the chance.

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u/This_Garbage5784 21d ago

That used to be the case 15-20 years ago, not so much anymore.

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u/RoyalStomachRumbler 23d ago

Dude what? Net spend? This is like saying the person with the highest credit card debt is the richest, and the person with a balanced budget is a joke.

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u/shadysnore 23d ago

It's more like saying the person who has to sell their things to afford other things is a joke, and the person who can afford to just buy the things is the richest.

Which is probably fairly close to the truth.

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u/Practical_River_9175 22d ago

The Prem sold itself out to foreign investment and their valuations are skyrocketing out of control.

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u/Practical_River_9175 22d ago

Nobody is hating, it’s just a fact. The prem has more investment than any other league by 100 miles but most of it is not coming from domestic sources. Half the league is owned by American investment. The amount of money being poured in is outlandish.

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u/castroski7 22d ago

Why are u here and why the rm badge if you defend premier league so much lol

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u/count_chompulamain 22d ago

Serie A 2 million euros

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u/gitty7456 22d ago

It seems wrong…

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u/InigoRivers 23d ago

How is it embarrassing? One of the reasons clubs might not spend is if they already have the quality of players they want/need.
To say a lack of spending is embarrassing is just ridiculous.

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u/Internetolocutor 23d ago

Now do Madrid and Barcelona's wages. Madrid got Trent for free. Mbappe for free. Maybe konate for free. These players are worth a bomb but the Madrid pull and wages pay for them essentially

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u/Nels8192 23d ago

More specifically the signing on fees which would likely be more than most clubs are actually paying in transfer fees.

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u/No_Dish6884 23d ago

At near no point in modern history has la liga not been top heavy. What we are seeing now is similar to many leagues. Players are being concentrated on a certain few teams, same in England; Germany; France. Italy there’s a bit more variance because they tend to trade amongst each other before outside the country.

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u/Conscious_Scheme132 22d ago

The thing is what has that billion been spent on? Mostly overpriced rubbish. Wouldn’t be too bothered. It’s about quality not just spunking £50mil a time on crap.

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u/matbur81 22d ago

Underappreciated post here.

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u/cozy_b0i 22d ago

$1B to lose to a Ligue 1 team

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u/mrgreen_smash999 8d ago

Did u forget Real losing to PSG 2 months ago ?

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u/IIlllllIIlllI 22d ago

you say it’s a joke until you switch the net spend for net profit. Truth is spain grows some of the top talent around the world it’s why you hardly ever see them import players.

i can guarantee if you did this stat for “players sold” instead of “players bought” la liga would suddenly be on top? why is that? because they have amazing youth academies and understand how to develop talent into the main team.

The problem with england is they usually rush players out then end up selling them off that’s when you’ll see them perform at other clubs literal only player i can name who is home talent and has bursted into the first 11 is foden.

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u/Lost-hornet-WD18 21d ago

I mean I think at least half of that spend was Chelsea buying wingers they don’t need…

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u/Spite-Organic 21d ago

Well no… it’s fairly comparable to all other leagues other than the one outlier. The problem La Liga has is that Barcelona are broke so the only team with pull and money is Real and they’re pursuing freebies.

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u/Optimal_Shame7839 23d ago

It's because LaLiga only has 3 teams with big pulls and prem has 6 and the mid table teams in the prem have so much more money than LaLiga.

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u/Fausto2002 23d ago

Which 6 teams?

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u/Terrible_Action9995 Barcelona 23d ago

Chelsea, Arsenal, Liverpool, City, United & arguably Tottenham?

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u/Beneficial_Hall_2269 Athletic Club 23d ago

La Liga has 3 teams with big pulls? Betis, Athletic, Sevilla, and Valencia all had a higher attendance then Chelsea last season. And by the way West Ham had a higher attendance than every club in England besides Man United.

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u/bws2159 23d ago

i think that’s more of a stadium thing. Spanish stadiums are massive, while some are old and may need work, they are incredible and bring in lots of ticket money. Stamford bridge is just not that big compared to all other big 6 stadiums in the premier league

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u/Nels8192 23d ago

Clubs like Frankfurt or Stuttgart pull in huge crowds, much like West Ham, but none of those clubs have more “pull” than Chelsea or Liverpool. The pull lies with the reputation of the club, and in terms of finances only, Chelsea/Liverpool’s international pull significantly outweighs all the other clubs in my comment combined.

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u/Beneficial_Hall_2269 Athletic Club 22d ago

How do those clubs have less pull than Chelsea or Liverpool if they have more fans in attendance? Isn’t the entire point of pull to get fans in seats?

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u/Nels8192 22d ago

Because you’re seemingly forgetting that Liverpool and Chelsea are constrained by their stadium capacities, not their lack of fans. You put those clubs in Wembley at the cheap ticket prices offered at the European clubs and they’d fill 90k Wembley pretty easily. These clubs don’t have 100k+ people on their ST waiting lists for no reason.

On the digital audience front, both of those clubs will pull in 100,000s more viewers than any of the others too.

There is literally no logic in trying to suggest any of those clubs have more pull than a club like Liverpool, it’s just nonsense.

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u/Nels8192 22d ago

But it’s not just digital fans though is it. For reasons explained with the ST waiting lists. They’re like 20+ years long, I’m sure the spanish fans of Valencia aren’t having that issue.

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u/Pheanturim 22d ago

You can't judge a team's pull by it's attendance since attendance is limited by stadium size it's a very weird metric to use.

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u/Beneficial_Hall_2269 Athletic Club 22d ago

I mean it’s the best thing I could think of to show how many fans clubs are able to pull consistently. Sure they can be limited by stadium size, but I still don’t think there are more Chelsea fans from London than Valencia fans from Valencia or Betis fans from Sevilla. If you have a better metric that you think shows how many fans these clubs can pull then I’d like to see it.

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u/scorpionballs 22d ago

What has attendance got to do with it? Chelsea could fill a bigger stadium than all those teams, those teams just haven’t had the issue of trying to either expand or relocate in an incredibly built up and phenomenally expensive part of a city

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u/Beneficial_Hall_2269 Athletic Club 22d ago

Attendance shows how much pull these clubs all have. Every single one I listed consistently pulls incredible amounts of fans into their stadium week in week out.

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u/scorpionballs 22d ago

So why aren’t all the top players going to those clubs

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u/Beneficial_Hall_2269 Athletic Club 22d ago

What does that have to do with pull? Those clubs still pull all those fans even without “top players”.

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u/scorpionballs 22d ago

The “pull” is the pull to entice players to play for them. I think you are misunderstanding

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u/ChickenTenders93 23d ago

Thought this was evident when Barcelona struggle to register players and Real Madrid tap up players and force them to not renew contracts and leave their current clubs on a free.

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u/BigTed1738 Barcelona 23d ago

Nettspend?

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u/MarcosR77 22d ago

I wouldn't say it's unwatchable just because they don't spend. It's a pretty competitive league up down the league more so than other Leagues

The issue in-terms of transfers is the league for me dosent do enough to sell its tv rights which is why the clubs don't spend.

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u/Inomora Real Madrid 22d ago

that's Tebas for you

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u/Significant-Bug8999 22d ago

It is much better to let teams end up completely bankrupt by spending beyond their means, something we have seen several times in the League.

It is logical that La Liga is behind the Premier and Bundesliga, they are the two most powerful countries in Europe.

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u/Fuzzy_Pirate_8898 22d ago

Even Ligue 1 spend more, but with the top 3 Liga teams with huge debs it's not a surprise.

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u/LuckyAd8747 22d ago

You mean The top 2 and rich Atletico. Calling Atleti a top team is crazy nowadays . West Ham have as much money as Atleti , would you call West Ham a top team ???? 

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u/Fuzzy_Pirate_8898 22d ago

Atletico is not rich, they have a 400M € debt that's less than Barça (1,8B) and Real (1,4B) but still huge. In France Lyon was facing relegation for a 180M € debt!

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u/LuckyAd8747 22d ago

Why is Atleti throwing their money away for 2 summers in a row when they are largely in debt ???? Spending 200 Million last summer and becoming worse and then the same thing this season . Could have paid the debt and breathed fresh air while  the team keeps the same performance instead of becoming worse

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u/Fuzzy_Pirate_8898 22d ago

Because they need to be on Champions League, usually debt has a planning to be reimbursed and you can't change it.

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u/LuckyAd8747 21d ago

I clearly said the signings ( even when successful ) somehow someway make the team worse and make each season worse than its  predecessor . So keeping the same squad guarantees staying in UCL

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u/Fuzzy_Pirate_8898 16d ago

Players are getting older and they need to renew or sell players at the end of their contract, after they make bad recruiting like most of the clubs, but yeah Atletico made a lot of bad ones recently.

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u/fistmehard79 22d ago

Real Madrid have free transfers and major ones so that's gone, Barca have no money

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u/Swimming_Box3728 22d ago

Net spend? Wait... say that again

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u/5oree 22d ago

Hanging w straight demons don’t get crossed by lil nett 😈😈😈

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u/Shoebedoebedoe 22d ago

this thread is getting way more traction then deserved

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u/T44120 22d ago

Easy when you're an open tax haven country like the UK

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u/IllustriousRoyal1523 22d ago

I think you got a bit confused, bundesliga net balance is +128 million which means they spent 128 LESS than they earned while laliga teams spent 37 million MORE than they earned. Also seria a teams spent 2 million less than they earned.

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u/[deleted] 22d ago

More info is needed on what the net spend statistic here actually is.

If its just the sum of all the individual teams net transfer spends then yeah there's and issue (this is probably the most likely).

If its the net transfer spend of the leagues as a whole, not the individual teams, then all it tells you is how much the teams are in that league are buying from outside that league. Transfers internally within the leagues contribute net zero. If this is the case then Liverpool signing Wirtz and Etikite account for almost 20% of the PL figure alone, and isn't really reflective of anything as a stat.

There's also a chance (probably slim) that it includes non-transfer related financials, in which case it's almost certainly garbage as its pretty hard to get an accurate picture for a single team, let alone four leagues.

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u/PTruccio 22d ago

Maybe football is declining in interest here in Spain.

That's good news.

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u/Zealousideal_Bad8877 22d ago

It’s because only 2 of ur teams spend money

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u/jimmynz1997 22d ago

Primarily an Arsenal fan but I'd argue that Real Madrid and Barcelona still have insane pull. Not so much with any of the other teams (with a slight exception to Atletico) though. Not all players just want huge wages as we've seen with many taking crap money to play for Barca in recent years. It is odd seeing so much less being spent in Spain though..

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u/AdLopsided1430 22d ago

Levante who's match is in like three days have only three players registered

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u/Jackoberto01 22d ago

Now do Ligue 1 which has made a profit of €160m. None of the European leagues can keep up with the Premier League in terms of spending.

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u/ilic_mls 22d ago

Wait, NET spend means spent + sold? Or just spent? Its not possible that Serie A is just 2 mil when Como alone spent over 100 mil

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u/liambell1606 22d ago

Net spend is outgoing money minus incoming money.

So if Team A buys Player B for £5m, but sells Player C for £3m, they’ve got a net spend of £2m.

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u/Calm-Extension-3798 22d ago

Real Madrid sign the best players on free transfers lol

Add konate

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u/IDNWID_1900 22d ago

Net spend is the result from buying-selling. And you are talking about La Liga when the Serie A is worse and the Bundesliga sucks as well compared to the Premier.

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u/Ok_Way_1465 22d ago

They don’t have to spend when all the top players agents are on the pay roll

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u/space_web 22d ago

If you tap up all your players instead of buying them then you don’t have to spend any money.

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u/BluLeone 22d ago

Having a net spend of negative 1 billion isn’t something to be proud of. It means the clubs aren’t being run particularly well. They’re just lucky they get an insane amount of TV money, which lets them afford this, because otherwise, this way of doing business wouldn’t be sustainable.

Not even Serie A at its peak had a net spend that negative. Sure, they were spending a lot of money, but they were also selling plenty of players for big fees.

What’s happening in the Premier League right now is completely unprecedented. You’ve got a team like Chelsea who, in recent years, have outspent Ligue 1, the Bundesliga, La Liga, and Serie A combined. That’s just wild

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u/Beginning-Delay9419 22d ago

so basically premier league is super league and we could have been up there but they made up calcopoli and the downfall of italian foodball began. Thats why there isnt eny rulling on mancester city all this years they arent suicidal.

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u/Physical-Position623 22d ago

Well if you look at Real Madrid they get top players for free because they let their contracts run out because they all want to go there. Barca has one of if not the most valuable squad in the world. Their signings were extending contracts and of course Garcia in goal. Outside the top 3 Spanish clubs rely on the talent in the country which does not seem to be diminishing. Premier League clubs need to buy expensive players from other leagues to even be relevant, as the talent in England is just not anywhere close to the talent in Spain.

I do agree that Tebas is only doing bad things for the league and should probably be sent jail for corruption, but I don't see La Liga being irrelevant any time soon.

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u/StrongStyleDragon Real Madrid 22d ago

Who wins more CL though

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u/Defiant_Sun_6589 22d ago

Unwatchable? How the hell is the league unwatchable?.. Why does clubs spending have to do with you enjoying the sport of Football? The irony is the premier league is fucking boring half the time, the Championship will be miles below these and is fun as fuck to watch.

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u/Kekulaaa 22d ago

Meanwhile Serie A

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u/BabiYodaa 22d ago

Barca are trying to swap players for bags of crisps

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u/Specialist-Opening69 22d ago

Blame the culture. The English pyramid is the greatest in football. The money comes from the TV rights which the UK people pay the most to watch their games out of anyone in the world.

Away days aren’t even a thing in Spain. People in England pour their money into their clubs and follow them day and night through all weathers.

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u/Mummbai 22d ago

'la liga used to be the place where top players wanted to go'...this has never been the case, it's been the league that houses 2 teams where top players want to go, and this is still true

If you were to compare the top 3 teams net spend of each league it would be a more interesting comparison, although pl would still come out ahead.

But the reality is the pl is a far more competitive league, and subsequently has far more money.

Whilst your Barca, real, Bayern, psg etc. are similar or better quality than the top of PL...if you go down to the bottom half of the table it isn't even close. This is due to finances, so all comes full circle

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u/MontStuart 22d ago

I’m a prem fan, but this just means they have a shit ton of money. Are they spending it correctly? Are the academies actually producing? Other leagues are competing and they have a fraction of the budget.

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u/maybethen77 22d ago

They've got the same amount of Champions League wins in the last 5 years as England has (2) and won the European Championships last year. 

Money isn't everything. 

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u/Hungry-Ad7987 21d ago

Who are you trying to fool ? How are Laliga signings this season 28 million.

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u/Savings_Cause5234 21d ago

Well so many players get bought from Spain. Also, Real and Barca really dont have issues attracting free agents...

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u/bluecheese2040 21d ago

In public people slate the prem. . In reality I think the prem keeps so many leagues in business.

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u/rmp266 21d ago

Can someone ELI5 what the whole deal is about Spanish clubs not being allowed to register their new signings. Read something about a club only having 13 players or so registered. When Barca couldn't register Olmo a year or so back i presumed that was a freakish event due to their crazy debt, but if half the league can't register their players thats an absolute farce.

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u/yung-militant Barcelona 21d ago

Tebas killed the league, Mallorca haven't even got 5 players registered

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u/thelilmagician 21d ago

Corrupt league, deserved

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u/mascachopo 21d ago

Are you suggesting everyone should sell their teams to the Arabs?

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u/kichererbs 21d ago

I mean… you can’t rly say anything w/ serie a being right there. But seriously the net spend has been the prem with some fantasy figure, usually la Liga at nr.2, this time it’s the BL but if we’re all being honest everyone is a joke next to the prem. They’re all closer to each other than the prem.

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u/inaminadicka 21d ago

I believe la Liga income is also lower which means it makes sense.. Hell it's so difficult for me find a place to watch la Liga matches as streamers keep changing where I live

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u/MuhammadAkmed 21d ago

Real and Barcelone selling their own TV rights hirt la Liga long term IMHO.

It brought them riches, but started smaller clubs of revenue.

For years it allowed Barcelona and Real to buy players from rival clubs in Spain, and to invest in their academies stretching their existing advantage.

The top Spanish clubs who didn't this couldn't then afford to change their model and reduce their take, to share TV rights and winnings more evenly with the other clubs in the league.

Mid table clubs in England are richer and better off than mid table Spanish clubs because of the centralization and even distributor of funds.

The EPL shared its TV rights money and distributes winnings across the league so every team has a guaranteed income and is able to pay higher wages.

This attracted outside investment into smaller clubs which happened less in Spain.

By packaging the Premier league's TV rights together, big TV & telecoms companies bid higher prices for the whole leagues TV Rights which further increased smaller clubs' revenues.

Real Madrid and Barcelona have been top clubs for decades (yes, there have been other Spanish success stories), who play good football with great players.

However, the competitiveness of the league in the face of their dominance led to La Liga being called "Scotland in the Sun" with often just 2 teams of any note (i.e. like Celtic and Rangers)

Attendances and fan engagement outside of the top few clubs in Spain were held back by the dominance of the biggest teams.

Real and Barcelona don't want to but can't afford to share things out more fairly (they've got the most fans, commercial draw and don't want to strengthen competitors) but it weakens La Liga, and makes the league less interesting, especially for people who don't support either RM or FCB.

I don't know, but are clubs like Brighton, Brentford, etc. — well-run small clubs and with an effective and highly profitable transfer strategy — less likely to arise in Spain?

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u/thisismyuaernamr 21d ago

To be fair it’d be a lot higher if Madrid actually bought players instead of the run your contract down and join on a free tactic they have going on.

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u/Speshjunior 21d ago

You’ve neglected to mention serie a at 2m?

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u/Jotakakun_to 21d ago

Where the f do you get your information? First of, even if these numbers are true, look at how much "net spend" Serie A has. Literarily 500 times less than PL, by that stat.

Also: what is in "net spend" ? Look at the transfer- cap of the teams. Atletico Madrid alone spend 175. Million on transfers, got around 68 Milions , aka their spenditure was around -107 Million. https://www.transfermarkt.de/laliga/einnahmenausgaben/wettbewerb/ES1

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u/Bellimars 21d ago

This doesn't tell the whole story as regards the prem as the huge majority of spend is by the "big 6" clubs also taking from lower prem clubs in order to reassert their dominance after a bad year (Spurs 17th, Man United 15th. Or the promoted clubs buying loads of players in order to desperately try and stay up. The teams in the middle like Bournemouth and Brentford are also getting picked clean and PSR is clearly not fit for purpose in England.

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u/7_11_Nation_Army 21d ago

And this is a good thing. La Liga is way more interesting than EPL.

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u/DirectorAny2129 21d ago

There is only one joke here which is PL, while many people resist Super League project they fail to see worse form of SL is already here which is PL

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u/4096b 21d ago

You literally grabbed taa and mbape for free. Those 2 could’ve cost any PL team 200m(mostly mbape). I’ll call it smart business and good branding. And most of the situation, la liga is the seller.

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u/themightied 20d ago

don’t know why reddit recommended this to me. and excuse my ignorance, pero por qué no estáis todos hablando español?

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u/jenniekimass 20d ago

Tebassssssss

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u/MinMischief 20d ago

This is more embarrassing for the premier league tbf

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u/fullview360 20d ago

That's because real madrid wait for players to come to them on free, and barcelona is broke, outside of that atheltico madrid is the only other major team...

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u/RhodesGraveyarde Deportivo La Coruña 20d ago

How is Serie A so low?

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u/Codaq3 20d ago

It’s a dying league. Stop forcing two clubs to be way better than the rest

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u/Friendly-Profit-8590 20d ago

Tbf seems like Real doesn’t have to spend money cause they get players for free. Also, who was signed in serie a or is was that for a few players?

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u/Tucumane 20d ago
  1. Net spend doesn’t tell you much about the money that was spent overall. It just tells you how much the difference between in- and outflow is. Would you say a country’s economy is in shambles when they have a good balance of imports and exports? No, the opposite is the case. (I know this doesn’t translate directly to the example here but it’s just to illustrate how the deficit is not per se a good thing.
  2. Spanish clubs are stil very successful as shown by the 5 year evaluation of the UEFA.
  3. Many people still see football as a cultural phenomenon, not a mere product that has to maximise revenue. Under this perspective, I find it preferable to actually train young local players instead of buying a new ensemble of international mercenaries each season. And yes by that I mean the premier league, I would never watch that soulless shitshow of a pseudo cultural staging.

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u/Iansavio 20d ago

The premier league is a business now it’s a joke of a so called league. Too much money

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u/Educational-Sea-9700 19d ago

I rather think it's a sign of health if a league doesn't have to spend insane amounts of money, it implies that they grow many talents by themselves. 

Premier league is just insane...

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u/Jatusay1 19d ago

Rashford’s move alone cost €35 million, I’m confused

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u/Fonslayer 19d ago

I believe that net spent is the buying subtracted by the selling.

"Net spent" refers to the total amount of money spent, minus any money earned or received back.

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u/kushall10 18d ago

Time for change

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u/No-Presentation-7236 18d ago

Run out of car parks to sell?

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u/Kaepirinha 18d ago

That must be wrong. Real Madrid spent more than 50M

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u/Tall-Fill4093 4d ago

Ok but it’s also that the spending caps is what keeps teams from self imploding like before

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u/eganoipse Barcelona 3d ago

I think fans from both La Liga and La Liga 2 clubs need to come together and sign a petition to have Javier Tebas removed.

All I’ve seen this window is La Liga talent move to the EPL and EFL for pittance, all in the sake of registration worries.

These FFP restrictions are far too tight and leaves our clubs hopeless. Competition prize money and commercial revenue are all we have because we can’t ever seem to land a big tv deal that will give us Super Sunday levels of revenue. But then how can teams reach a level of high prize money when they can’t sign or retain the talent required to reach such positions in competitions?

How much longer until La Liga is just seen as a glorified training facility for the EPL?

I’ve been a Barcelona fan for almost 25 years and I’ve never been a Villarreal fan, but when I see the likes of Jeremy Pino move to Crystal Palace for €30 million it almost feels like a crime to just sit there and not even raise it as an issue!

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u/anarchy_retreat 23d ago edited 23d ago

EPL TV rights: €3.5 billion/yr LaLiga TV rights: €1.5 billion/yr

Plus Bundesliga teams have made great money over the past two yrs: Sesko, Ekitike, Wirtz, Muani, Gvardiol, Bellingham, Olmo etc because they play exciting talent and football. So it's natural that they are spending now to reinvest. LaLiga doesn't have a lot of exciting talent outside of the big 3

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u/Routine_Service6801 23d ago edited 22d ago

Dully noted, everyone should launder money for arms dealers and oil barons.

Don't worry Spanish clubs are still spending money, it is just that they get prospects while PL clubs keep overspending to appease casuals and money launderers.