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News Lib Dem Suspended over Pro-Trans Tweet

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u/stewcelliott Social Liberal 4d ago

Bird's views are repellent but it's pretty easy to see how that tweet is not appropriate. Frankly it's probably the inclusion of the gun that made this a suspending matter.

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u/CarMeltScratch 4d ago

In what way repellant? As far as I can tell, Natalie Bird believes humans can't change sex, a view that isn't controversial among the electorate, and is scientific fact.

She has been targeted, vilified and harassed and the party has had to compensate her. Plus and ALDC, together with the weird, legally illiterate 'definition of transphobia' have done the Lib Dems a lot of damage with the public. This is another stupid, unnecessary blemish on our - hardly stellar - record.

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u/ThwMinto01 Rawlsian Liberal 4d ago

It is against the councilor code of conduct

He posted an image of an anime girl pointing a gun at the reader 😭 I fully agree with the message and find it pretty funny, but at the same time it's pretty obvious why sitting councillors* shouldn't be posting an image like that on their main account

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u/TangoJavaTJ No votes for transphobes! 🏳️‍⚧️ 4d ago

Don't care, if firing a transphobe for expressing a transphobic view violates Equality Act 2010 then firing a pro-trans counsellor for expressing pro-trans views also violates Equality Act 2010. You don't get to have it both ways. I hope he sues your party.

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u/Doctor_Fegg Continuity Kennedy Tendency 4d ago

They aren't "firing a pro-trans councillor for expressing pro-trans views", they're suspending him for tweeting a threat of violence.

I mean, personally I think Graham Linehan should be fired straight into the sun, but I'm not a councillor and no elected official, of any party, should tweet threatening images.

(Also, a "counsellor" and a "councillor" are quite different things.)

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u/ThwMinto01 Rawlsian Liberal 4d ago

We lost the lawsuit, we had to pay Natalie Bird compensation. It is also fact (it's an absurdity and terrible ruling but is fact) that since Maya Forstater UK courts have said "gender critical" (transphobic) views are legally protected under the EA2010

This isn't the same scenario as it isn't for the view, it's for the inclusion of the gun which I don't think it's shocking

Professional politicians should probably realise posting an image with a gun isn't a good idea on their main account.

I don't disagree with the sentiment at all in his post, but it's also a very stupid thing to include a gun in your post

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u/TangoJavaTJ No votes for transphobes! 🏳️‍⚧️ 4d ago

NO. THEY. ARENT. 🤦🏻‍♀️

See my other comment explaining why, I'm not repeating myself .