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News Lib Dem Suspended over Pro-Trans Tweet

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u/TangoJavaTJ No votes for transphobes! 🏳️‍⚧️ 4d ago

It's interesting how the people spreading this "scientific fact" are usually scientifically illiterate, and how actual scientists reject it outright.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

What’s not scientifically factual?

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u/TangoJavaTJ No votes for transphobes! 🏳️‍⚧️ 4d ago

The view that sex is perfectly binary and non-changing. This is objectively false.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Ill preface this with me asking questions largely out of unintentional ignorance.

Is there an example of a person changing sex, genetically, hormonally and physically without outside intervention?

Whilst I do understand there are foetal development issues that can cause genetic defects causing persons who could be defined as "inter-sexed" (if thats the correct term).

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u/TangoJavaTJ No votes for transphobes! 🏳️‍⚧️ 4d ago

Is there an example of a person changing sex, genetically, hormonally and physically without outside intervention?

Yes. Individuals with 5-alpha-reductase deficiency (5-ARD) are born as typical females but at puberty begin developing XY chromosomes and prototypically male characteristics.

And yes, "intersex" is the correct term for anyone born outside of the male-female bimodal clusters.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

I dont believe thats the strongest of cases as it's a very rare genetic condition....with a higher chance of this occurring during interbreeding or populations with close genetic similarities.

Those born with XY chromosomes do have male reproductive parts. Testes etc, however are un-developed due to the condition.

This is not an example of a person changing sex, genetically, hormonally or physically.

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u/TangoJavaTJ No votes for transphobes! 🏳️‍⚧️ 4d ago

Thanks for making my point that the people spreading "basic biology" don't understand basic biology.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Pot kettle colour check......

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u/sprouting_broccoli 4d ago

So when you said you were asking questions out of unintentional ignorance that wasn’t quite true was it.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

There is a lot of unintentional ignorance on my part on my subjects. I try to see any thing from both perspectives and try to be devils advocate best I can. Any idea or position deserves to be challenged.

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u/FreddyEmme17 4d ago

There is a fine line between pretended unintentional ignorance and intellectual dishonesty.

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