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News Lib Dem Suspended over Pro-Trans Tweet

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Why shouldn't we call a significant number of the voters far-right or transphobic?

Well, for starters, it puts off voters which is not a way to win anybody over. So we could start there.

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u/Mr_Rinn 4d ago

You wouldn't win over bigots anyway. You think Starmer being crueller towards immigrants has won him much Reform support?

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Well I'd say trying to win over millions of voters would be an aim of the liberal democrats. Attacking them with hostile labels isn't going to do that.

To answer your question: no I don't think it has won Labour much support. But that's not what I'm saying. We're talking about the labels themselves here. Surely it would be mad to start calling half the country far-right because that limits the lib dems.

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u/Mr_Rinn 4d ago

What you're suggesting would attract nobody to the Lib Dems, and lose them support from the LGBT community and people sympathetic towards them. Jesus how have you not noticed that from how pathetic Labour has been acting? Nobody will respect a party that'll stab their principles in the back to grovel for votes.

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

What I'm suggesting is to not use hostile labels on half the country. That's it. I'm not suggesting anything else.

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u/Mr_Rinn 4d ago

We should stand by and let people harass minorities?

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

No. But we also shouldn't use hostile labels on the half the country.

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u/Mr_Rinn 4d ago

Hostile labels such as?

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u/[deleted] 4d ago

Far-right and transphobic? It's not exactly going to win voters over is it?

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u/Mr_Rinn 4d ago

It'd win over LGBT voters, and probably not drive away many others. And they are being transphobic, you're suggesting we should stand against transphobia while being too afraid to name it?

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