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Politics Destiny makes XQC briefly ragequit their heated MAGA/leftist debate

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u/Eevee136 2d ago

Worst thing that happened to this country

What a thing to say on. On September 12th even. Lmao

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u/youngBullOldBull 2d ago

Trump 1 already had a higher death toll than the towers just from the covid death toll alone - who knows how high the number will be by the time round 2 is over

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u/fuzzylm308 2d ago

During Trump's first term, there were were just over 400,000 total COVID-19 deaths in the US. That is roughly equivalent to 135 September 11ths.

The first US COVID death was February 6, 2020, and Trump left office on January 21, 2021. So that's an average of a 9/11 occurring every 2.6 days for 350 days straight.

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u/chronoslol 2d ago

It's not even close. Trump has been way more of a disaster for the USA. Please tell me in what way you think 9/11 had a bigger negative impact.

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u/Ok_Chicken1370 2d ago

It's hilarious because even if you included all the money and lives lost by invading the middle-east following 9/11, Trump would still come out on top as worse lmfao

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u/WilsonMagna 2d ago

Agreed, Trump is the first President to divide this country. Hell, he even sides with our enemies. He couldn't have done it alone, but he sure as hell has made it a lot worse. It wasn't that long ago that people in his own party told the truth about Trump, including his VP J.D. Vance. They all know Trump is a monster, but they know to shut up and do what they're told if they want to stay in office and avoid Trump turning his base on them. Trump is destroying the U.S. standing in the world and stripping rights from people at home.

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u/Yggsdrazl 1d ago

Trump is the first President to divide this country

Abraham Lincoln erasure.

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u/bondsmatthew 2d ago

American lives, yeah. Total lives, no

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u/wetwetwetwetdogs 2d ago

Not to be glib, but Trump is one of the impacts from 9/11.

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u/Thedrunkenchild 2d ago edited 2d ago

I would argue that 9/11 was one of the major causes of Trump, 9/11 made the Bush administration go full conservative (at least for the time) and was hated for it, making the rise of Obama happened, a more left than usual candidate, the first black president, a huge pendulum swing in the other direction. But once you have the pendulum swing so wildly for almost 2 decades you’re going to have unpredictable outcomes when it inevitably swings back again, Trump was the result. So yeah it’s a matter of opinions but imo it was 9/11 that destabilized American culture and politics so much that allowed someone like Trump to rise to power.

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u/rojotortuga 2d ago

The only thing I can really say to this is without 9/ 11. There's a good chance that we never would have had Trump. That's really it.

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u/Jaideroy 2d ago

9/11, as horrific as it was, united the country in a way we had never seen before. Trump and MAGA, love it or hate it, have shattered our nation's unity, and removed integrity and civility from US politics.

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u/Brain_Dead_Goats 2d ago

The Bush admin's response to 9/11 is what shattered our faith in institutions and led to conspiracism. demonization and divisiveness being the mainstream on the right.

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u/Juel92 2d ago

9/11 was so successful for the terrorists. Really helped set the stage for the current american climate.

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u/FlukyS 2d ago

It is the worst thing that Trump remembers or cares about because he will only talk about what he has on his mind at any given moment.

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u/Alone-As-aGod 2d ago

oh trump presidency,jan 6 and oll of this shit is 10 times worse for americans than 9/11. 9/11 was worse for middle east than trump, so far....