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Politics Destiny makes XQC briefly ragequit their heated MAGA/leftist debate

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u/MVIVN 2d ago

This is the most fucked thing about American politics to a lot of us observing from afar. In most western countries, the president/prime minister at least tries to spread a message of unity and solidarity (whether they are successful at that or not is another matter, but they at least try). The problem with Donald Trump and MAGA, and why it’s been so destructive to your country, is they’ve drawn a very firm line in the sand, especially during this second Trump term, where they’re leaning hard into the team sport aspect of politics, where it’s us versus them.

It’s not Team America anymore, it’s just Team MAGA vs everyone else, and if you’re not with MAGA, you are an enemy and you must lose and you must be destroyed, but the problem is when that kind of mentality applies to more than 50% of the population (because not all conservatives are MAGA, and not everyone who voted for Donald Trump in November 2024 is still a fan of Donald Trump in September 2025) then you have a real horrible problem with a lot of ugly potential outcomes, and the sitting president does not care.

If anything, I think it should be the strongest argument against old ass people being elected, because people like Donald Trump won’t be thinking long term. He won’t be thinking about the long life he’ll live after he leaves office. He will cause as much chaos and destruction as possible, and then he won’t live long enough to see how it all plays out because he’s an 80-year-old man who will statistically die within less than a decade of old age.

I really don’t know where America goes from here, because the situation y’all are in right now is absolutely FUCKED.

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u/Ispeakinfacts 2d ago edited 2d ago

sigh Yup.

-An American

To further add the division has reached our families. We feel crazy because speaking truth to people who raised us or was there our entire lives feels like theyre on the other side of a glass wall. Truth is rejected by loved ones. It's never happening and if it is then it's not that bad. And if it was then it was likely our fault. and if it wasnt our fault oh well try harder. I feel like I have mourned people while they are still alive. As someone who disagrees with Trump and Kirk, I dont wish death on them. Only myself. It's a nightmare that doesn't end.

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u/VeTTe_Tek 2d ago

God damn this hits hard brother. Im right there with ya

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u/Ispeakinfacts 2d ago

If someone who does listen to you asks for help, help them. That's the only way were going to get through this. I've started a backyard garden. The way good wins is not war. But becoming self sufficient and not participating in this system. Find like minded people and create abundance. Stay strong as we are not alone.