r/MafiaTheGame • u/Mr_Pinstripe1 • 14d ago
Discussion I swear it’s all I’ve been seeing.
Don’t get me wrong, the game ain’t perfect but I’m not letting small imperfections ruin my entire experience.
I said it once and I’ll say it again. The driving is peak.
The story meets the standard for the Mafia series so y’know, it’s good.
The shooting is really good and yes it is better than all the other mafia games and also better than RDR2 and GTA V.
How is it better? Well, first of all, when it comes to shooting in RDR2, as the player, you don’t really feel the weight of the gun you are shooting.
Basically in RDR2 and GTA, it just feels like you’re shootings airsoft guns but mafia: the old country actually feels more realistic and I feel more immersed when it comes to gunplay and I don’t doubt other games also have better gunplay than Mafia: the old country but, I can’t speak on those because I haven’t played them.
To be fair, nobody, not even me, should be comparing Mafia the old country to other games outside of the Mafia series.
This isn’t me being ignorant also. The games has flaws. I definitely think it holds the game back to an extent but then again, consider the fact that this isn’t another Mindseye or Ubisoft game or activision game… and it does what it what all mafia games set out to do? Then you can’t complain too much.
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u/yourmotherisaleopard 14d ago
My biggest issue with the shooting and the shooting in all mafia games is the crosshair. Would much prefer a dot
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u/Shawn-GT 14d ago
Wtf did you say about rdr2? I agree with a lot of what you’re saying but this is a reach my man.
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u/Drogovich 13d ago edited 13d ago
yeah, that point was kinda stoopid. i think in red dead you at least have propper control over the shooting and arthurd at least doesn't hold a gun like he is lethally drunk. And in general it's fun to shoot in red dead, meanwhile it's mostly infuriating in mafia the old country.
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u/GigaRoman 13d ago
RDR & GTA: Gun is stable and doesn't move to much
Mafia: Slightly move the joystick and the aim feels like you're waving your arm around
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u/jPRO-93 14d ago
After TOC tried Mafia 1 Def edition, TOC is so forgetable. Yes, it looks incredible but somehow feel lifeless. In OG Mafia 1, make kill was real effort. In new Mafias i feel like Hitman onebulleting left and right, doesnt feel good.
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u/AndyMazaky 14d ago
The gunplay is very subjective, and I disagree with you on the weight. As someone who has shot real firearms before, I can say that games often minimize certain aspects of gun handling to make the gameplay smoother. TOC, on the other hand, overshoots a bit, and I don’t think it can objectively be seen as better than RDR2, which leans more toward realism, or GTA V, which is more arcade-like. Saying it's better than both feels like a stretch, especially since all three games are so different — from gameplay design to the in-lore experience the characters have with guns, and even the types of firearms they use.
As you mentioned, you haven't played many games with truly refined gunplay, so I think it’s just a matter of you gaining more experience to understand some of the common criticisms about the feel of the gameplay. That said, I agree it's somewhat subjective.
But the most important points in your post, to me, are the following:
Comparisons are normal and necessary: I firmly believe that any game should be compared to others within the same genre, category, and even price point. That’s a standard practice in any medium, and judging a game in an echo chamber without the possibility of comparison isn't fair — or healthy. What I find odd is that almost no one compares TOC with GTA V or RDR2, even though many on this subreddit use those titles as a shield against criticism. Most of the comparisons are actually internal — pointing out how the Mafia franchise itself hasn't evolved much since the earlier entries. Honestly, I think TOC would receive much less criticism if it were the first entry from a lesser-known studio. But it’s not. And I also believe the criticism would be much harsher if it had the "Mafia" name attached to it.
Criticism doesn’t make you less of a fan: The idea that anyone criticizing the game isn't a "real Mafia fan" is just flawed. People have criticized games since the beginning — that’s why game reviews have existed since the 1970s. Once you buy and play a game, you're entitled to voice your opinions, highlight flaws, and express disappointment. If every bit of criticism is dismissed as "hate" or as coming from "non-fans," then all you'll get in return are more lazy, copy-paste releases from studios. That’s one of the reasons why AAA games nowadays have so many issues. You even brought up Ubisoft — well, guess which fanbase also used to claim that critics "weren’t real fans"? Assassin’s Creed. And look how that turned out. People criticize because they care — because they don’t want the franchise to become another Ubisoft-style product or end up like Mindseye, as you mentioned. So yes, people absolutely have the right to complain.
And honestly, I see the opposite of what you're suggesting — especially on this subreddit. People constantly try to justify their purchase by claiming TOC is one of the best launches ever. They downvote criticism, create an echo chamber of forced positivity, and sometimes even resort to insults when others don't completely agree with their opinion.
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u/Objective-Phrase-336 14d ago
I loved Mafia TOC.
Every mission is memorable, and every cutscene is really well done.
My main criticism is the performance, I could play it well on PC, but with the usual frame drops...
Characters like Luca and Don Torrisi became part of the Mafia universe.
What a game, my favorite game this year.
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u/DiamondNite2 14d ago
Me too, man. I was honestly really sad that I finished it so quick. It one of those games that I REALLY wish I could play again for the first time.
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u/Riley_does_stuff 14d ago
My main issue with the game was the ending... But otherwise, I was completely invested in the game as a whole
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u/niallbean 14d ago
I agree , I loved the game but I felt like the ending (without saying too much) was a bit unnecessary. I think even if that part didn’t happen it wouldn’t have changed the outcome too much and pretty much everyone would be happy with it
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u/Touringbox 14d ago
Same here, once I got into it I loved it and the only issue for me was performance as well. I have a PC that can run modern games well but the game still crashed every couple hours or so. Didn't stop me from enjoying another game in one of my favorite series.
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u/Wallnuts1225 14d ago
Mate, they gave you a shop to go and buy shit and didn't allow you to go to it for 90% of the game
They gave you a closet where you could get yourself looking proper, but didn't allow you to go to your own bloody apartment for 90% of the game.
The story is good. The graphics are decent. But the on rails bit absolutely ruined the game.
Putting this game in the same sentence as RDR2 or GTA is blasphemy.
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u/Bigpoopmaster666 14d ago
That’s what I was thinking. There’s like, what, two or three times in the game you can pick your own weapons? Most missions almost always start at the villa, and I don’t remember how many times you can pick your own cars, but I know it’s not a lot. As you said though, still a very good story
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u/WeOutHereInSmallbany 14d ago
Nothing beats Mafia II’s formula of waking up, doing mob shit with my buddies, and going home.
And I love Vito’s single minded motivations. All the dude aspires for is money, cars, and women. TOC made me feel bad almost the entire time.
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u/Wallnuts1225 13d ago
I legitimately avoided the side quest of talking to Isabella in the garden in the beginning cause I thought "this bitch gonna get me in trouble, let me go on about my business!" The joy and goosebumps of the oath were then dashed when they turned the game into a love story.
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u/Ok_Bicycle3764 14d ago
"The shooting is really good and yes it is better than all the other mafia games and also better than RDR2 and GTA V."
BRO WHAT ??????????? Mafia 3 has much better shooting,
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u/Apprehensive-Top8225 14d ago
Everything was cinema up until the ending it's just feels rushed I know on the mafia game series there won't ever be a happy ending maybe if become a rat like Tommy but hope mafia 4's ending has more thought put into it
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u/IzzatQQDir 14d ago edited 14d ago
Sorry I have to disagree with the RDR2 comparison. I will accept GTA V because yeah, the shooting is bad in that game. It felt like shooting a paintball.
But the game is an 8/10 at least because it did everything right for a Mafia game.
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u/precursordredd 14d ago
If you make a beautiful open world, people are going to want to explore. They might as well save on resources and truly make it a linear game. they could have the time to make better animations for a lot of stuff, add cool physics etc.
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u/skarff99 14d ago
You’re wrong. It was shit. Personally I don’t care what anyone says or plays, I know I’m done with any more Mafia games.
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u/organicallyviolent 14d ago
The gun play sucks on TOC unfortunately
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u/baldmof0 14d ago
there is no gore! how? 2025 guys!
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u/organicallyviolent 14d ago
Gore? I honestly didn’t even notice. The overall actual gunplay just feels like dog shit. Jesus, I have one criticism, get over it.
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u/baldmof0 14d ago
i like the gunplay. I don't lile the fact thst there is no gore
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u/organicallyviolent 13d ago
I honestly really didn’t even notice the no gore. But the actual shooting just feel janky. I was blown away by mafia DE though. Like eveything feels great in that game. which was jarring since it was released before TOC
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u/Life-Emu-6932 14d ago
As a Sicilian, I have to say I enjoyed it. I've decided to stop comparing games' merits and failures or giving too much weight to other people's opinions—not that they don't matter, mind you, but everything is subjective. I still play and love Red Dead Redemption 2, and for me it remains unrivaled. That said, every game is a universe unto itself.
Mafia has never aspired to absolute realism; it has its limitations, and some things could have been done better. However, the hatred unleashed against it seems exaggerated and unjustified to me. It's not the game of life, but those who paint it as rubbish often do so without having tried it or perhaps have never explored anything outside of the online world.
Sicily is treated with profound respect and care. The dubbing in Sicilian is a courageous and authentic choice, which for us islanders is a true emotion; I feel like I can hear my homeland, its expressions, its silences of times gone by. Listening to it in my native language gives me a unique immersion.
The setting is another strong point: San Celeste feels like a lived-in village, with narrow alleys, stairways, glimpses of real life—it feels like walking among the echoes of early twentieth-century Sicily.
The game offers a visually and narratively immersive atmosphere, with meticulously rendered Sicilian settings and dialogue (even in Sicilian) that catapult you back into the era. The story, though short and linear, is intense and well-told. The stealth mechanics, knife duels, and gunfights are functional and coherent, even if they aren't particularly innovative, and that's a given. Some technical flaws (weak enemy AI, abrupt graphical transitions, limited exploration) stand out, but they don't ruin the overall experience. It's not a masterpiece, but it offers a solid and well-constructed narrative experience, and I find the hatred unjustified.
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14d ago
Honestly they’re GTA fanboys mad because they thought the game was gonna be GTA lite not its own game. It’s the same exact issue with the COD fanboys and the Battlefield 6 beta
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u/BigBlackdaddy65 14d ago
The irony is that mafia fanboys are the actual problem, acting disingenuous over other people's opinions just because you don't agree with it. Like this comment is an insanely bad take when people have made valid criticism about what they don't like and to act like everyone who's complaining is just a GTA fanboy is just being ignorant.
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u/ActionKid98 14d ago
stop bro, even people who love the game have their own reservations OP's first comment was:
Don’t get me wrong, the game ain’t perfect but I’m not letting small imperfections ruin my entire experience
Keywords: MY entire experience
People on here would rather choose to discredit the people who express their opinion of feeling unfulfilled and believing the game could've been much much more yet there are still people who come on here everyday and complain that Mafia 3 was bad and repetitive and for those reasons it shouldve never existed, yet that type of complaint its accepted by the community even when theres people like YOU, ME and OP who liked Mafia 3.
Just so you know, as someone who loves all 4 games i cannot distinguish between Mafia 3 and TOC "haters" its the same type of people so OPs experience is not gonna be the same as someone who complains. I feel like these types of posts are saying "I love it so you should too", like no bro, i'll play the fuck outta Mafia 3 for the 4th time and completely enjoy it yet i'll never convince more than 50% of this sub to like it as I do and thats fine
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14d ago
I’m a keep it real bro I don’t care, I said what I said and I stand by it. I’ve seen enough of what people said online and their reviews. They all say the same shit
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u/ActionKid98 14d ago
you aint gotta care bro and they aint gotta care about yall trying to go at them neither, im telling you like it is tho... now we have people complaining about people complaining, shit is crazy
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u/FullMetal000 14d ago
Better than RDR2? Are you joking me?
I fully agree that some of the criticism overall is overblown. The game in general is quite solid. On the short side, I fully agree.
But I still think the biggest issue people have is that they jump in with the wrong expectations. They expect a game to deliver "peak innovative" third person gameplay, a massive story that lasts for 30 hours or so and massive open world oppertunities.
I came in with the thought to have a very linear, quite short "authenthic" Mafia experience. "servicable" gunplay that is fun enough. And all in all it delivered.
Biggest gripe I have with the game is that it felt cut short. The last two/three chapters feel very much rushed. While the chapters before really take their time the develop and unfold, the "ending" feels very much rushed.
Still enjoyed my time and it was a good story overall. But it really suffers from how it wraps up.
Same for the gimmicky "knife fights". It really was overdone.
All in all a solid experience. Bought it at launch purely to support the franchise and in hopes we get a bigger "numbered" Mafia experience eventually. (here's me hoping 70's/80's setting mob game).
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u/horris_mctitties 14d ago
Mfs disagree with people's opinions so much thst they make whole posts like this cmon dog
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u/WalidfromMorocco 14d ago
To be fair, nobody, not even me, should be comparing Mafia the old country to other games outside of the Mafia series.
What does this even mean.. The issue with threads like this is that you try to bend backwards to invalidite criticisms of the game.
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u/LimpScratch8828 13d ago
This game was terrible, looked ass, played ass, story ass, but unfortunately I played it past refund time and I’ll never get that money back🤦🏼
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u/baldmof0 14d ago
so not liking TOC makes me a non Mafia fan? what's that logic?
if you are not right then you are left?
I love Mafia and imo TOC was lame. Compare it to 2. That's the standard
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u/rafnsvartrrr 14d ago
Redditor glazing 101. "I like everything I consume, anyone who doesn't gotta be hating"
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u/Ambitious_Bar_3235 14d ago
It was a okay game in general, but it was ABSOLUTELY F🤬CKING STUPID to have Enzo give Isabella a god damned letter when he was SUPPOSED TO BE LEAVING WITH HER!!! It spoiled the game for me honestly, and that was just the WORST time the story was too predictable. The writers got LAZY!!
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u/RabonahTTV 12d ago
As someone who never played a Mafia game before this one here is my two cents.
The story was amazing, the setting was beautiful, the characters were deep. Great driving mechanics, the combat was mid but had its moments. What the real drawback was though was how repetitive the mission formula was. Every single chapter was:
A) cutscene
B) travel to location
C) cutscene
D) do a stealth part
E) get to stealth objective
F) cutscene
G) all out combat section of mission
H) cutscene
I) knife fight with chapter "boss"
J) cutscene
Repeat
Not that it was bad, but it made the game feel super predictable
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u/PinkamenaVTR2 12d ago
Didnt play it yet but 3 and the remake were just "eh", after watching gameplay of TOC it looked like its gonna be like the remake (gameplay wise)
so im just gonna wait for a sale and maybe get it, cant hate it until i try but im not very excited for it
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u/YouDontKnowMe4949 14d ago
SO Called Mafia fans? Or maybe just because you like the other Mafia games doesn't mean you will automatically like this one. I haven't played it so I have no opinion either way . I just don't like the "So Called Mafia Fan " comment.
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u/Nearby-Tank-1095 14d ago
I think people have valid concerns your just seeing the Reddit versions of them. The game is good if it came out like ten years ago. Today it’s serviceable at best. Better than micro transaction slop we are used to for sure. But the writing, character development, and ending was a little shallow.
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u/mrThe 14d ago
Driving feels great.. but there is nowhere to drive and nothing to do. You have a huge autopark(and a lot of horses btw) but not a single reason to use it.
Shooting is okay, but not too enjoyable. And knife fights is ass. It's cool at first but then you literally doing the same thing over and over for each boss fight. No new tricks from their sleeves, nothing.
And the worst part of the game is the price. Full AAA price for ~12hours of story with zero replaylability? Welp.
Don't get me wrong i like the game, but it feels like they started with openworld hit the budget limit and rolled back to the simple linear story. Tho some parts of the story is kind of stupid, like this first quest for getting a food, like dude why you don't went straight to that window you are used to for exit??
Other than that it's a good game, 100% worth to play if purchased on a discount, story is great, overall gameplay is fun.
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u/Clark_Kent_TheSJW 14d ago
After I finished OC, I downloaded and finished mafia 1, and I was pleasantly surprised by how similar they are, even down to the controls.
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u/Intelligent_Dish0456 14d ago
That was my problem. I felt like I went backwards in time. I wanted something better.
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u/MajesticJoey 11d ago
That’s a you problem not the games fault.
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u/Intelligent_Dish0456 11d ago
Are you slow? I said that was MY problem. I didn’t blame the game. Learn to read mf.
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u/MajesticJoey 11d ago
Your problem with the game was the fact it was too similar to Mafia 1, I never commented on that but the fact you “wanted” something better is why I said that’s just a you problem, there was no need to be an aggressive prick.
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u/Intelligent_Dish0456 11d ago
There’s no need for your unnecessary comment. It’s my opinion that games should evolve over time. I didn’t ask you so stfu.
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u/tadpole3159 14d ago
I'm an adult, linear games are perfect for me. I don't have two hours to roam around some massive empty map looking for collectibles only to be rewarded with some half arsed cutscene. Cut to the action I gotta make dinner in an hour
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u/Mr_Pinstripe1 14d ago
The game is good but it’s not my favourite Mafia game as Mafia: definitive edition is still my favourite.
I won’t be surprised if I see a bunch of people like:
“Erm… The lost city of heaven actually—“
It’s 2025 dude. That game is older than most of the Fortnite players as of right now.
The 2002 mafia is good but with how much I see it brought up, it makes me think people want to just see every single future mafia game exactly like that game.
Listen, to each their own, criticism, I understand and yknow what? I like criticism but hate makes no sense especially if you’re a fan of the Mafia series. If you’re a fan of the series then you should have your expectations set based off the trilogy we got.
People that aren’t mafia fans and hate on the game are just mentally ill since they are obviously comparing it to games that just are impossible to even compare the old country to or they see one thing they don’t like and they just want to nuke the game with hate.
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u/AndyMazaky 14d ago
I don't know where you're getting the idea that people are comparing TOC to much bigger games. Most of the comparisons I’ve seen are within the Mafia franchise itself. I also really dislike how you’re equating criticism with hate — as if any strong or harsh criticism automatically means someone is “hating” or isn’t a real fan of the series.
Being a real fan means you want the franchise to grow and not stay stagnant for over two decades. Mafia 1 is older than most Fortnite players, and yet it still has the most innovative gameplay in the series. What does that tell you? The reason it gets brought up so often is because it represents the peak of what a Mafia game can offer — the same goes for Mafia 2. There's an entire culture around the Mafia genre, beyond just the games, and how that culture interacts with the franchise matters.
I don’t see anyone trying to “nuke the game with hate.” What I do see are people who didn’t enjoy the game, who have legitimate criticisms, and who simply expected that a 23-year-old franchise under a major publisher like 2K would have evolved more by now.
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u/BizarrePork98 14d ago
If you’re a fan of the series then you should have your expectations set based off the trilogy we got.
What if the game simply didn't meet their expectations as fans of the series? Maybe they feel that, compared to even previous Mafia games, it is lacking in some areas or falls short, or as a game in general in current year.
In most games or media, there is gonna be hate for the sake of hate, don't get me wrong, but if people have genuine criticisms of the game, both as a new entry in the series or as a game in general, that's valid.
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u/kacu11 13d ago
I compare it to the games that costs the same price cause why would i recommend this game when someone can get better game for the same price. Also dont compare it to the other games is so stupid it hurts my head lets say we got game A and this game is totally unplayable trash so it Has bad reviews then comes the second game from the same series ,,A2" and this game is nothing special like driving is ok shooting is like from Xbox 360 era story is also really average and the game costs 40$ when you compared to the first one OMG ITS THE GREATEST GAME EVER BUY IT NOW BEST MECHANICS ON EARTH if you compare it to other triple A products you see how pathetic the gameplay is and this is TOC game that i would recommend for 10$ on steam summer sale. You shouldnt recommend the game if your just going to glaze at it without comparing it to others i get it your a fan theres alot you could like about this game for but dont bring some stupid shit like rdr2 Has worse shooting cause mafia one looks like its just downloaded ready from UE5
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u/Feuertotem 14d ago
You can only think of yourself as edgy these days, if you are giving 0/10 reviews to everything. Normal scores make your very uninteresting. It's what all of them still are, but don't tell them.
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u/TheStinkySlinky 14d ago
My main gripe is them showing Adaptive Trigger support on the PS store page, and then not actually being supported in game.
Otherwise, playing on the Pro and knew from the opening minutes it was exactly the game for me. As one who’s favorite of all time is TLOU series.. Mafia TOC is exactly what I want in a game. Well for the most part, it’s still a little basic as far as modern “next-gen” gameplay. I’m not finished yet though, about 75% through.
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u/kellyb1985 14d ago
Story was good... wish it was a bit longer. I wish there was a little bit more free roam and exploration also. Overall, I enjoyed it.
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u/chiliwithbean 14d ago
I think it's a great game. I'm at like 28 hours right now and almost done with the collections grind for platinum. The explore mode kinda sucks right now and the world isn't very interactable but they delivered on most of their promises. I'm happy having paid $50 for it.
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u/Unusual-Maize3429 14d ago
Personally really enjoyed the game my only issue is the free/explore mode. It's just empty and feels like a waste and not being able to set any form of waypoints made getting all those collectibles such a chore
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u/Jumpy-Swing501 14d ago
My criticism of the game: the last 2 chapters (And not what happened, but how it happened), but from the point of view of the storytelling, the prologue-12 chapters are done well. Stealth (the enemies are too stupid) and knife duels (And I understand perfectly well that this coincides with the time period). And at the same time, I am sure that a higher budget practically solves all these complaints. In general, I clearly see that the game was made with love and therefore there is hope for progress and development of the franchise in the right direction
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u/Scared-Expression444 14d ago
Haven’t played it yet, waiting for performance updates and free ride update.
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u/HotConfusion8640 14d ago
It’s a problem with smaller fanbases (don’t shoot me, this game isn’t COD or FIFA as an example) I’ve noticed
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u/Arijit12321 14d ago
I completed the game, and I loved it.
Pros : Short, beautifully made. Story was nice, typical mob love story but I enjoyed the story. The missions were fine, kind of generic but way better than Mafia 3, it doesn't feel repetitive at all. The Graphics is very good, Sicily looks so beautiful. The driving feels nice.
Cons : Performance is not good. UE 5 unoptimized game so its expected. The NPCs are just there name sake, Sicily feels empty. You cannot steal cars which is strange because in previous games you could.
I would suggest, if you like short story focused games, go for it. Its worth it.
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u/Rastawitdajawa 14d ago
Mafia TOC is literally perfect for me for me i got wat I expected nun more nun less i dnt understand the hate on this game
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u/Infern018 14d ago
the game is generally not bad and over the time with updates and dlc it would be able to overcome the unpolished aspects. what i didnt like about the game was that it was not worth the price i paid.
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u/Haunting_Drag_1682 14d ago
None of the complaints I've seen are valid. Some say it's too short as if the other Mafia games haven't all been around the same length aside from Mafia III which most fans called bloated and repetitive. Now they want an open world again all of a sudden? Also the no swimming complaint like Mafia is known for it's swimming mechanics. I've even seen some people complain about the knife fights. I think it's the most fun melee I've seen in the Mafia games. Most of the other Mafia games had a punch a couple of times and do a takedown at least it's different. It isn't perfect, but I thought Old Country was a worthy addition to the series. And 10-13 hours is a decent length. Not every game has to be a 70+ hour open world experience. It was also never marketed as anything, but a linear experience.
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u/CoreSoundCoastie 14d ago
Like with most games we set expectations and if it doesn’t meet those then that’s what seems to get highlighted. For me I liked the story but the gameplay was just repetitive. There were no surprises in my opinion. I would’ve loved for this little war to have escalated to little random shootouts in passing on the roads. Similar to RDR2. I know this game wasn’t that but it would’ve been more immersive for me at least verses getting a mission, driving/riding to it, shootout, cutscenes, rinse and repeat. It wasn’t great imo and some think it’s amazing. Either opinion is ok. I for one am glad some people loved it. I would’ve hated to see the franchise end and I hope it doesn’t.
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u/Character-Crab7292 14d ago
Great game. The gunplay was kind of shit, but it has always been kind of shit.
Great story. Great cast. Great enviroment.
5/7 - perfect score
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u/Airborne_Shark 14d ago
For me I got turned off of it seeing the first gameplay where he throws and grenade and there's like zero force from it, it was actually comical.
To me it came off as a Last of Us style gameplay they were looking to emulate with the melee durability and how the arenas were set up.
Any good reviews of the game on the gameplay side?
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u/SweetTooth275 14d ago
Welcome to this community: "We hate logic and realism - we want pretty clichés".
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u/samircorleone 14d ago
Thank you. Some points are valid like pop ins or that it might be a little too linear with the “Return to mission area” and other few problems but as a game? It’s fuckin great. Great characters, story, setting, driving, shooting and fantastic acting. It’s memorable and got great directing
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u/No_Region2690 14d ago
It was a rail shooter to be fair. Had lots of stuttering, frame drops and pop ins too. The story was great tho. Anything else....not so much
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u/hugecervix 14d ago
The shooting in rdr2 is definitely weighty. That’s your only point I don’t agree with
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u/Reddtester 14d ago
There is a very GLARING problem with Mafia TOC
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That I wanted to play more of it
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u/CrashBandiSloot96 14d ago
The combat got enjoyable for me once I equipped that accuracy charm, before that I just felt like I had the aim of a Storm Trooper. The last 45 minutes of the game lowkey pissed me off story wise but other than that this game was extremely fun. I was hooked the minute I heard the music play on the menu screen.
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u/JungleJim-68 14d ago
I have a perfectly valid reason to dislike the one single part that I dislike and that’s because no one on earth wouldn’t see what was happening in that moment and it’s literally so stupid it’s unfathomable, but it’s one moment in a 12 ish hour story, of which I loved the rest
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u/StolenCoupe 14d ago
The only hate I have is that I wish I could play more of it and I'm curious to see what the next game is already
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u/IntroductionFeisty61 14d ago
I enjoyed it. Every gaming community likes to pick apart new releases. I'm old, as long as the internet and gaming has co-existed, people just wanna bitch.
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u/Express-Elevator-190 14d ago
If it was 30 dollars, I'd agree with you, but it's certainly not a good game, cliche story, terrible clunky shooting. Yes, the driving is nice, but you have nothing to explore the end game. The world doesn't react to you, and the physics are a little dated. The first Mafia from 2002 is still the best. Mafia, the old country, felt more like a DLC than an actual game. It was basic in every way, a solid 6.
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u/Bigpoopmaster666 14d ago
I thought TOC was a good game. Is it the best in the series? Not for me, but I still enjoyed it regardless
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u/Noturious_Run 14d ago
I personally loved the story of TOC, as well as the gameplay. However, I don’t think I’ll try and replay it in the future
It may be because I started playing the Mafia series with 3, but the lack of open world kinda disappointed me, which I know isn’t really the staple of Mafia games, but I digress.
As much as I loved Enzo, and I know this might be a little hot, I still prefer Lincoln to him. From his background to his story, to his personality. One day soon I’ll finally have the spare cash to get Maria 1 and 2 to play em, but until then, Mafia 3 is my baby
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u/Tiny-Sky-4194 14d ago
I just completed it and loved it, ending really got to me and the gameplay is such a big improvement on the definitive edition.
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u/ProudArmyvet96 14d ago
The game is very fun but the story is very very predictable, I mean almost everything that happened was super obvious from early on, the ending felt kinda stale but it made sense to me especially during that time and given don torrisii's personality it was only going to end one way with enzo dating his daughter behind his back, you thought the gunplay was that that good? Lol I thought it was different than what im used to but those gunplay comparisons you gave crazy but I respect it man if thats what your take is its valid because that was your experience. My biggest thing I love the linear story and all but I wanted more at the end.
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u/WeOutHereInSmallbany 14d ago
There was stuff I liked and stuff I didn’t like, but I enjoyed it overall
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u/montagne1234 14d ago
I remember when that one youtuber was hating on the game a few years back just for being a prequel spinoff
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u/Meraxus_ 14d ago
I loved TOC. The story was really captivating, albeit slightly predictable. With so many games wanting to squeeze your for every bit of your time it's nice to have a relatively short story driven game you actually finish and feel finished.
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u/BlackDeath433 14d ago
thats why you dont relly on others critics of a media and you must try it yourself
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u/LazaroVents 14d ago
"The story meets the standard for the Mafia series so y’know, it’s good."
I already knew what was going to happen at the end as soon as I met Isabella, Mafia 1 and 2 story was amazing, lots of twists and very unpredictable. In TOC as soon as Enzo starts "secretly dating" Isabella you know they are going to get discovered at some point and Don Torrisi is going to try to kill Enzo for being a "traitor".
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u/Xboxone1997 14d ago
Some folks actually have valid criticism and I genuinely think they planned on making this a bit more of a open world
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u/ketchup_juice_is_bad 13d ago
I think the only part in the game that felt somewhat “crushing” was during the first stealth section with the wine I choked out a guard, hid him in a box. Choked out the next guard and decided to put him in the same box but when you go to do it and you see the inside of the box it’s empty. The first guards body just disappeared. Ruined the immersion it had built up so well but I was able to bounce back from it and keep enjoying the rest
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u/SputniktheSatellite 13d ago
Rdr2 is a ps4 game, gta 5 came out in 2013. I would hope this game had some things better than that. But you are crazy if you really believe it is better than either.
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u/Jonson1o 13d ago
I really don’t hate on it, but I just hate the ending. Although its a fairly tragic and realistic way to end it, it just sucks honestly.
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u/vrokaj 13d ago
you think mafia has more realistic guns than arma, squad etc... ? :O
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u/Mr_Pinstripe1 13d ago
Haven’t played them so I can’t say but I’m sure they are. I don’t doubt there are games with more realistic gunplay but I’m just saying that Mafia the old country has pretty good shooting in comparison to what I played already.
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u/DonkeyIntelligent501 13d ago
I enjoyed it overall, I'm not that bothered about collectibles, so I played the story, then ragged around the map a bit in a few cars and was happy with the experience overall.
The performance was my mine gripe, I have a pretty good pc (32gb ram, gtx 3080, Ryzen 7) and the first third of the game was stuttery as hell, so had to turn down to 1080p from 1440p, and from there it still was stuttery at times (mainly when there were lots of npcs, such as the races)
So I guess tldr, my main issue is with the optimisations on the pc version, but I enjoyed the experience of the game overall and it met my expectations, but didn't exceed them.
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u/Possible-Rent-480 13d ago
It is a great game
Soundtrack rocks. Graphics rocks. Details rock whether it's cars, persons, buildings or weapons.. The story rocks. Stealth and gunplay I'd cool but not top notch.
For the price and the nice refreshment of not having to grind through an 80 hour game filled with nonsense is cook!
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u/Yellowbentiness 13d ago
Finished it last night. Its the worst as far as I'm concerned. Too easy and almost plays the game for you. Disappointing, im a big fan of the other 3.
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u/Cyborg_Avenger_777 13d ago
Mafia 1: The life of crime ain’t for everyone
Mafia 2: Crime pays, but at what cost?
Mafia 3: Revenge against the mafia
Mafia TOC: Tragic love story
I gotta say, TOC had to have the most cliche story choice. Even the ending was definitely seen from many miles away. I’ll give em a 6.5/10.
1 and 2 will always be the best, 3’s is 50/50 for me.
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u/AskRepresentative1 13d ago
Great game. Too short. If it was open world would have been amazing. 50$ gets you 1/2 a game I guess !
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u/Savings-Woodpecker93 13d ago
Good game. Super repetitive. Will probably not play again or go back for collectibles. I enjoyed it overall though.
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u/True_Tone604 13d ago
It’s a good mafia game if you don’t like it then go back to mafia 3 because that’s the gameplay style that newcomers expect
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u/Early_Task_7491 13d ago
it was a depressing ending and a little too short but other than that it was great
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u/Murky-Chain-8804 13d ago
I love this game, but the only thing i kind of hate is that the way they ended the story.. Since Enzo has the potential to "become" the new face of mafia.. . imagine if they made 3 games out of him.. . the second one could be him becoming a Don.. then the in the third game is where he'll get his demise..
When will we ever get to become a Don in a mafia game? imagine the potential of us becoming a Don? We could buy properties handle racketeering or something make choices or even expand our business while having a linear but a solid story. ( i know this is somehow a stretch but it would be similar to what AC Valhalla gave us since we kinda play a "stand-in" jarl there while sigurd do whatever he is doing) the possibilities is limitless if we ever get to become a Don in one of this games hopefully soon.. .
lastly.. . the ending of MAFIA TOC is were it fell short and im not talking about Enzo's death.. i don't even feel anything when he died since it is expected. what i dont understand is Don Torrisi became a supervillain lmfao what is up with that? its some what out of character.. . the guy spends half of the game doing nothing making us do shit for him then suddenly he goes mad.. . i guess since it is his daughter that is involved.. . but why didnt he do shit himself when LUCA died or when NICCOLO died???
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u/Drogovich 13d ago
I'm just looking at some of your points and i'm not even sure if we played the same game. I felt that shooting in mafia generally sucked, you can barely hit anything with Enzo's constantly shaking spaghetty hands, the only weapons worth using there were shotguns, rest of the guns too inaqurate except for 1 or 2 rifles and again, enzo is like a constantly drunk scumbag that cannot hold a gun straight.
And story, i mean, damn, the story was very weak compared to previous games and it's a missed opportunity to tell the story of how mafia came to be.
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u/WyteFilipino 12d ago
All I can add to this thread is that I did find a way to "free roam"
This allows you to drive, walk or ride the horse all through the map and stopping at stores to purchase things. You can also use your outfits but thats about all you can do in the free roam mode as far as I have found
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u/Work_Salty 12d ago
Honestly loves the game and story except for the ending and don't get me wrong I love unhappy endings, idk in here it just made the whole story a waste of time for me especially since it was a romance where I almost always hate romance story's but here I was really liking in the chemistry between Enzo and Isabella made it interesting to see how they would end up only to end like that 😭 I give it a 8 /10 for gameplay and 5/10 for story because that ending just left a bad taste in my mouth
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u/International-Food14 11d ago
Post purchase rationalization would be in overdrive too if i paid 50$ for this bs 😭
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u/Shall_Not_Pass- 10d ago
It's a terrible game and I will die on this hill!
It's a great interactive film! Fantastic even... But it doesn't have many of the necessary attributes to be categorized as a game.
It's a great interactive film... It would make a superb stand alone animated film! It's a rich world with a fantastically written plot and characters!
But for god sakes man.... It's not a good game.... Kingdom come deliverance 2; is a good game! BALDERS GATE 3; is a good game! Ready or not; is a good game! Stardew valley; is a good game!
But you see why!? They have good gameplay.... TOC doesn't have good gameplay! It's repetitive, decades out dated, and simply exists as a linear path to take the player from one set piece to the next!!
That's why it's a great film! But it's a terrible game!
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u/mikey3624 10d ago
the time period is a tough sell and it’s a little boring that all. Still a great game, everyone just wants Mafia 4 so I’m not surprised
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u/DiveBarSpecial6666 9d ago
The controls are awkward, and ya, just slow. It didn't really pull me in. Wasted money on that. I needed a break from death stranding 2.
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u/BLeeMac66 8d ago
5/10. The writers turned it into a fairy tail love story, with bad knife fights. Enzo is the worst character in any Mafia game. He can stealthily take out enemy after enemy, but struggles in a close quarters combat fight. He has to be saved repeatedly. I’m not quite sure who the developers were targeting to play this game, but it doesn’t seem to be fans of a Mafia 2. Hopefully, if this series continues, they can create story lines that are actually Mafia influenced. I will give it credit in one area. You can fast forward through the usually lame cutscenes and get it over with faster.
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u/Pedrikos 14d ago
I wouldn’t say the shooting mechanics are better than in RDR2, but for the sake of the Mafia series itself, it’s best not to compare the two. Rockstar is a massive company, and it's simply not a fair comparison. Doing so only opens the door for people to start judging Mafia against RDR2 in every other aspect, which isn't reasonable
That said, my only real "problem" with TOC is that the story’s way too short, which honestly just shows how good it is. The ending’s pretty weak, though. And it’s not like the writers didn’t know what they were doing. It just feels like the last chapter has a bunch of plot holes and loose ends that the rest of the game didn’t have. Kinda seems like they had to rush it and just wrap things up, probably because of budget issues or something
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u/dog_named_frank 14d ago
I think its funny seeing everyone praise RDR2 shooting in this sub because every time I praise it anywhere else people say it's awful. "Realism isn't fun" and all that
Personally I like the shooting in both games. Anything other than arcadey gunplay is good for me
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u/MemeManOriginalHD 14d ago
It made me want more, which isn't really a complaint but it left me with a lot of questions I hope I get answered with DLC or even another installment
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u/DanyRoll 14d ago
I enjoyed the game. The story was a bit generic, but I still liked it. The gameplay was fun too, though I was disappointed by some minor details like bodies disappearing when you put them in a box, Enzo not having an animation when you honk in the car, or the NPCs’ animations being so awkward outside of cutscenes. None of those were dealbreakers, though the game was still good
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u/Embarrassed_Start652 14d ago
Honestly after Mindseye these people do not realize how grateful they have a decent Crime game
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u/KokoTheeFabulous 14d ago
The game seems fine tbh, its graphics just look sort shit in a "dated" sense, it's not ugly.
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u/KingOfEreb0r 14d ago
Some of them have valid / ok points but others are just hating for fun because they are bored like having no swimming , linear game , no open world etc ...