r/Music • u/ebradio • Jul 21 '25

music Spotify Publishes AI-Generated Songs From Dead Artists Without Permission

https://www.404media.co/spotify-publishes-ai-generated-songs-from-dead-artists-without-permission/
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u/Reggaejunkiedrew Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 21 '25

Technology is what people do with it. If you want to ignore all the potential for medical and technological advancement that can cure cancer, give us a  room temp super conductor and maybe put us in a post wealth utopia, sure. 

It might go very bad but these type of reductionist takes don't advance the conversation and leave nuance in the wind. The reasons why it is or isn't the enemy of humanity have nothing to do with some ai generated song on Spotify. Technology can and will do a lot of good and a lot of bad, but when someone makes it some extreme black and white thing it just seems ideological and they don't actually give a shit about the potential for good. 

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u/Dynastydood Jul 21 '25

It would probably be better to say that the companies pushing AI in its current form are the enemies of humanity rather than the AI itself.

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u/simcity4000 Jul 21 '25

Do you actually think Suno music generator is going to make medical breakthroughs or are you deliberately being obtuse for the sake of a pendantic argument?

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u/Odeeum Jul 21 '25

They didnt day it would. Their point us that AI in general has civilization changing possibilities...for the betterment of all of us. But it ALSO has the potential to erode and destroy the lives of most of us. AI in general CAN be something that transforms humanity positively...or end up ending us as a species. Thats it. Thats their point.

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u/simcity4000 Jul 21 '25 edited Jul 22 '25

Right so again, do you mean Suno.AI? Music gen AI? Which this post is clearly about considering its in /r/music?

Or are you going "well actually machine learning has shown vast applications in..." which is an entirely pointless tangent in this context? Do you genuinely think people in this sub are raging against MLs being used to find cancer or making superconductors?

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u/Abraham_Lingam Jul 21 '25

Those things did not happen.

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u/bulletPoint Jul 21 '25

You’re bringing nuance to a conversation with a bunch of luddites. Best steer clear of this contingent

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u/thejesiah Jul 21 '25

Ah, but the actual luddites didn't want to ban the new technology, they simply wanted sensible regulations to help protect workers, consumers, and quality.

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u/bulletPoint Jul 21 '25

You can’t even define what you want.

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u/thejesiah Jul 21 '25

Sensible regulations? Plenty have been outlined by people with more time for this than me. I'm going to go work on music to release while I still have a chance.

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u/bulletPoint Jul 21 '25

So, “sensible regulations “ makes sense in theory but you’re stuck in the same practical spot as you are/were with piracy. Sure it’s illegal to pirate music, but it’s possible and easy so people will do it. Technology such as the internet made it easier to distribute the music files and it became even easier still. The commercial model for streaming subscriptions put a damper on piracy and theft, not any of the sensible regulations that preceded it. Now you have easily generated filters that can create / copy music styles. Rather than the entire track, the building blocks for the track are under attack. No regulatory framework can put that horse back in the barn. Best to embrace it and make sense of what to do with an art form given that such a thing exists. You’re the artist here and you have a tremendous opportunity in front of you.

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u/bulletPoint Jul 21 '25

Yes.

Translation: “I did paperwork at a defense contractor and think I know what I’m talking about, please take me seriously. Also I can’t pay my bills”

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u/scrundel Jul 22 '25

lol ok kid

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u/brickmaster32000 Jul 21 '25

Are they bringing nuance or are they just being intentionally obtuse? If you asked the original poster, who said AI was bad, if they thought that we shouldn't use computers to search for potential medical breakthroughs, do you really think they would have said that we shouldn't do that? Or did you just refuse to consider the context the statement was made in to pretend they would make a ridiculous argument?

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u/bulletPoint Jul 21 '25

Nuance and informative addition to a conversation with a bunch of luddite hordes not fit for public.