r/Music Jul 21 '25

music Spotify Publishes AI-Generated Songs From Dead Artists Without Permission

https://www.404media.co/spotify-publishes-ai-generated-songs-from-dead-artists-without-permission/
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u/Abraham_Lingam Jul 21 '25

AI is the enemy of humanity.

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u/KaJaHa Jul 21 '25

*AI with a profit motive

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u/scrundel Jul 21 '25

It’s a pre-alpha tech that was rushed to market to appease brain-rotted MBAs. There is no ethical use of this crap.

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u/musicwithbarb Jul 21 '25

I actually beg to differ for one reason. I'm blind. I can now send pictures to chat gpt and it will describe them to me. So, until two years ago, I could only read text posts on Reddit. But now, thanks to Chat GPT, I can actually interact with pretty much all of reddit. I can do memes now, which is a cool thing. But the best thing I learned from chat GPT pictures was the majesty of Niagara Falls. I've been there once before. But because I'm blind, it was just loud rushing water. With Chat GPT, my friends had taken a pic of the falls, which they sent me. Chat GPT described in as much detail as it possibly could and I was completely amazed by the falls after that. So, I hear your concerns. But Chat GPT has made my world so much bigger with the ability to describe pictures.

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u/scrundel Jul 22 '25

I’ve been involved with the disability community since first grade, so I’m sympathetic, but this technology is genuinely harmful to society as a whole and doesn’t justify the edge cases where it can be beneficial

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u/lavendersuga Jul 22 '25

There's some noble uses of AI, but the money sullies any good that can come of it. If it's helpful but not profitable, it will be skipped. I saw something further down about climate change detection and with the datacenter stories I've seen online...that's rich.

Years ago, I was chasing a dev dream (of a more comfortable life and maybe some interesting work) and started taking programming classes. Started watching YouTube vids and all that because mentors got cut (cost too much, ha). The attitude was insufferable.

"(Topic) Is useless because it doesn't make any money" was the refrain I heard from most of these people. I was talking about taking Japanese lessons and dude says "What's the point of that?" I was interested and enjoy the language!? Any subject that wasn't STEM was pissed on. Like they wouldn't have to know their way around these topics in order to translate them into code.

They want to make stuff to get rich but disdain learning about the stuff humans like or how they behave. There's no "art" in them, and I've seen some boneheaded ideas for apps that would mess with people's livelihoods. It's an insensitivity thing with many of them, I figure.

Lots of fatherless Jordan Peterson fans in there at the time too (a decade or so, give or take).

It was a bit icky. I've asked for years what are they going to do with the jobless and got back empty answers, "there will be an adjustment to make" was about as kind as it got. They didn't think they'd be the ones on the chopping block but there are now moves toward that as well.

I've met more enlightened/humanistic IT people since but that duller layer is quite thick. Then their heroes try to philosophize and they open their mouths for that.

I moved away from it, but I'm afraid some of them didn't change. They're trolls with a little extra grey matter between the ears and no real depth.

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u/MetalEnthusiast83 Jul 22 '25

There is no ethical use of this crap.

I mean, I mostly use to help with powershell scripting and making meeting summaries. I'm not sure how either of those uses of AI is even remotely unethical

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u/scrundel Jul 22 '25

Because the basis for its ability to do anything is stolen IP and it uses an insane amount of energy. It’s not a complex or nuanced issue, people just choose to ignore it.

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u/SpaceDomdy Jul 22 '25

unfortunately “AI” is the new-ish buzzword that includes significantly more tech than just LLMs like ChatGPT. machine learning has been ethically sourced as far as IP concerns and as many tend to be much more narrow, are significantly more energy efficient than you are imagining.

i’d agree that the “version” of ai you are pointing to is shit, but to say the technology has no value is disingenuous at best without defining what you actually mean when you say ai.

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u/scrundel Jul 22 '25

I don’t think machine learning models have zero utility. I’m completely on board with using them in data science. The problem is that the models being used today were not ready for prime time when the boom started and are now being sold to moronic MBAs and consumers who think it’s revolutionary when it’s measurably worse than a human 99% of the time.

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u/SpaceDomdy Jul 23 '25

believe me i’m very familiar with the people you’re referring to. i’ve worked closely with many in the tech space. glad to hear you’re not opposed to the technology so much as you are opposed to the LLMs being sold as if they were skynet. “it’s not complex or nuances” tends to read as there is zero argument in favor of a technology being utilized.

just to clarify though, the models being used today should specifically refer to that shitty skynet bucket as the data science stuff especially in medical and scientific field has been in use for a while now with both ethical sourcing and effective outcomes.