r/Music Oct 14 '17

Article Woman who accused rapper Nelly of rape tells police to drop investigation.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '17

Alleged victim. Yes, don't assume either way. Give support, but not against the accused, who could be the real victim.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '17

Yep, fairness.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '17

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '17

Of course not. I'm referring to the "Reddit has a bad habit of assuming" part, which refers to assumptions made about people you don't personally know.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '17

All women should be believed 100% when they say they have been raped.

That's now how this works.

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '17

Not what I said either, what is it with you people and scarecrows?

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u/[deleted] Oct 14 '17

You didn't say it, you implied it.

Proof? You haven't denied it either.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

I didn't, you inferred it because that's what everyone who disagrees with you must think.

My only commentary was that lack of a conviction does not necessarily mean the accuser is lying.

It doesn't mean they're telling the truth, but it doesn't mean they're lying.

And let's be real here, everyone forms opinions on public cases, and many people decide guilty/not guilty on their own.

Given the he said/she said nature of many sexual assault cases (which is precisely why convictions are low - you can't send someone to prison just because) automatically assuming no conviction or a withdrawn case means the accuser was lying is ridiculous.

Not denying something is also not admitting to it. Can't even keep consistency in your own fucking comment. I can't offer you proof of what I was thinking as I typed a comment, what kind of request even is that? Calm your crusade there bucko.

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u/[deleted] Oct 15 '17

automatically assuming no conviction or a withdrawn case means the accuser was lying is ridiculous.

No one is assuming that she lied. But to be offended by just entertaining the thought that she could have lied is hypocrisy.

Her words are worth as much Nelly's when he says he didn't rape her. That's all words are worth.

In a court of law, you need evidence, and you need proof. Neither of which she is willing to provide now.