r/NASCAR • u/realflags • 3d ago
Kyle Larson's Superspeedway surprise trend in 2025, 3 Stage Wins at all three tracks & a 9.6 Average finish this year. Do you think he'll ever win at a superspeedway?
This year has been a strange year to watch Kyle Larson's overall season, with how much he has struggled on road courses this year, yet how much he has improved at superspeedways, given his reputation of never finishing well there.
Getting three stage wins, two top 5's, three top 10 tens, and a worst finish of only 20th at the Daytona 500 and averaging 35 points scored per race, while on the road courses he's averaged less then 10 points a race and has an average finish of 31th, all despite winning 2 of the 5 road courses last year.
What are your thoughts? Will he ever will a superspeedway, for some reason he has improved vastly in being able to give good pushes and save fuel for pit strategy.
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u/DaDominator32 Larson 3d ago
Thats Mr. 2026 Daytona 500 winner you're talking about
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u/realflags 3d ago
That would be cool, to see him join Harvick, Jimmie, Jeff and Earnhardt in the sweep of all crown jewels, the all star race and the championship.
Maybe, anything can happen
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u/Sportsisthebest Larson 3d ago
All he needs is a Daytona 500 and he’ll complete the grand slam. Also joining 4 other champions to ever do it.
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u/yavimaya_eldred 3d ago
Maybe? He’s still not very good at decision making and a lot of the technical stuff on plate tracks. He’s improved for sure but it feels like luck more than anything that he’s been good at them this year. It feels like there’s been a few times where he should have wrecked but got fortunate not to.
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u/DevinBookersSon 3d ago
There’s also a much more overwhelming amount of times where he got wrecked when he shouldn’t have…
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u/just_shy_of_perfect 3d ago
I think he'll get one one day but he was REAL aggressive with his pushes and almost wrecked a few drivers last night.
But its definitely progress. I think he gets one someday ya
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u/IcedCoffey 3d ago
almost????
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u/5348RR 3d ago
Yeah Bubba Wallace didn’t almost wreck lol
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u/JeffGordonFan5-24 Larson 3d ago
The 23 and 22 were gonna have contact there no matter what, the second joey got tight and put Larson 4 wide Larson had no control of the situation. All around an unfortunate situation but im kinda tired of the narrative that its automatically Larsons fault whenever the 5 is near an accident.
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u/AscendMoros 2d ago
Larson could have helped said situation by hitting bubba square and not missing half his bumper. He hit bubbas bumper at a bad angle which got him squirrelly.
He legit was one of the main reasons that wreck happened. It’s just a bad push which happens a lot especially with the bad bumper the Chevy had probably didn’t help either.
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u/JeffGordonFan5-24 Larson 2d ago
Denny Hamlin AKA the guy who owns the 23 car even said that Larson wasn't at fault for that wreck. Bubba and Logano both couldn't hold the line and the wreck was the result, but at the end of the day that's how racing works sometimes you win sometimes you don't. I'm just tired of everyone using Larson as a scapegoat whenever he's within 10 yards of a wreck.
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u/5348RR 3d ago
How about the narrative that Kyle Larson can do no wrong in the eyes of his fan base? What are your thoughts on that narrative? 😂
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u/JeffGordonFan5-24 Larson 3d ago
I'm willing to admit when he screws up. I hated what happened with him, Chastain, and Busch at Nashville last year and I cringed when he got into Cindric at Atlanta earlier this year. This however was clearly not Larsons fault or really anyone's fault aside from maybe Busch or Logano not holding their lines
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u/tacolopez Larson 3d ago
He's had shit luck on the road courses this year. Not sure he'd beat out SVG anyway. But I could see him winning a superspeedway race next year
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u/realflags 3d ago
I wonder if Chevy will redesign the bumper a bit next year, I just saw his post race interview and he mentioned that their cars can't lock on like the Fords, leading to the Toyota and Chevy to get bent out of line more when pushing.
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u/ReactiveCypress 3d ago
That's always been an issue with the Camaro vs the Mustang. I remember in 2020 when they severely flattened the front end of the Camaro to help with pushing at superspeedways. Not much more they could do realistically.
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u/realflags 3d ago
Crazy how his average finish is under 10th at superspeedways, yet is 13th at all track types. I believe this might be his best average finsih at any track type this year, even mile & a halfs.
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u/MountainLPYT1 3d ago
Yeah prob, he's still not the best but he's nearly won two of them this year so. Might have some bad pushes but he's getting better at being able to live and then execute late race
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u/IcedCoffey 3d ago
no, he makes questionable decisions 2-3 times race. at short tracks, road courses or intermediates he gets away them and moves on most of the time. but when you make a small mistake here, you normally end up in the fence.
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u/Constant_Performer83 2d ago
He is progressing this is a win for him and I think that he will sooner than later
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u/gnomez57 3d ago
If he continues to bump every and all cars bumpers ahead of him then yeah maybe. Otherwise if it's pass and win al by itself, we'll see.
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u/damstar1 Checkered Flag 3d ago
Does it really matter? Whose career would you rather have Kyle Larson's or Ricky Stenhouse jr? Not knocking Stenhouse but the reverse could be asked about him will he ever win anywhere but a super speedway?
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u/Character-Initial612 3d ago
Super speedways are about luck way more than skill, so if he runs enough races eventually he will get one
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u/ryantheamazingest van Gisbergen 3d ago
There is a lot of being at the right place at the right time, but you can’t say that there isn’t a lot of skill involved. Larson is not a good pusher at all, and it cost him. Caused one big one, and bad pushes meant he couldn’t get to the front as easily. There’s a reason that people like Cindric, McDowell, Stenhouse find themselves up front more often than not.
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u/TeamBlinkr12 3d ago
Anyone could win at a restrictor plate track even if they're as bad at racing there as Larson is.
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u/MikeDatTiger 3d ago
I thought last night was pretty strong. His stage 1 win over Blaney was good racing and at the end of the race he did well to get past Preece and Jones to set up to be the leader in the stronger lane, but preece drifting to the middle ended up killing that lane’s momentum, leaving it open for the top lane and for some reason his spotter never told him in time to move high (I assume they were a little too wedded to having Elliott behind as help).