r/NoStupidQuestions • u/Garey_Coleman • 8d ago

Where are the homeless supposed to go?

Cities have been cracking down on homeless people so they can’t have encampments or stay on sidewalks. At the same time usually the shelters are full. So those who are unable to get into a shelter, where are they supposed to go?

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u/Partnumber 8d ago

Away

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u/dr_strange-love 8d ago

That's how the first Rambo movie started. 

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u/ExcitingMoose13 8d ago

But I thought to take away from rambo was supposed to be rara America, the way the sequels did 

Not a Dark look at how the American government uses and throws away veterans and rather pour resources into controlling the homeless instead of actually providing for them

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u/Overcast451 8d ago edited 8d ago

That's the whole dialog at the end of the first movie when Col Troutman confronts Rambo at the police station while the sheriff is shot up at his mercy; delves into the concept of him being used, tossed to the side, and left to flounder. No guidance or assistance for him in spite of his sacrifice.

"You can't just turn it off!"

Also, in the movie, the Sheriff has a Silver Star and Purple Heart on his desk, seemingly to indicate he was a veteran, too.

My takeaway from the first movie was two government machines going after each other. Adding in the colonel who just became a thoughtless part of the machine, until his eyes give away his sudden realization in the end.

One damaged by a war and the other emboldened by a war. Subtlety addressing the mental scars left with vastly different results.

The message in the first movie was moving and eye-opening. The others were just shoot fests.

I have seen the first one numerous times, it's much deeper than it appears on the surface. PTSD might have been a medical thing at the time, but most people didn't have a concept or name for it, that I knew of. I was young, though.

The others I have seen once or twice. They were basically action shooters with the "rara" feel.

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u/graham_king 8d ago

Also, in the movie, the Sheriff has a Silver Star and Purple Heart on his desk, seemingly to indicate he was a veteran, too

Of the Korean war, it's explicit in the book. He resents the Vietnam veterans overshadowing his own service, which partly explains his instant dislike of Rambo.

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u/JJohnston015 8d ago

Rambo also mocked the Sheriff's showboating his medals. When he saw them, he said, "Oh, gave 'em hell in Korea, did you?"

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u/Bill__NHI 8d ago

He resents the Vietnam veterans overshadowing his own service, which partly explains his instant dislike of Rambo.

Just as a large portion of people hated on returning Vietnam vets, my father being one of them who was spit on and called baby killer when he returned home. Mind you he was only a combat medic, and only fired blindly into the jungle when under attack—hardly a baby killer.

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u/showyerbewbs 8d ago

PTSD might have been a medical thing at the time, but most people didn't have a concept or name for it, that I knew of. I was young, though

From WWI and WWII, it was called "Shell shock" because a lot of the soldiers were intimately close to big guns on ships and tanks.

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u/Dhaeron 8d ago

For a good part of WW1 it was called cowardice and people were sentenced for it. The British army executed a couple hundred soldiers for it in WW1 and they didn't get (posthumously) pardoned until the mid-2000s.

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u/FrankWillardIT 8d ago

Also the Italian, French and Russian armies murdered a lot of their own with this victim-blaming accusation.., it was pretty common back then...

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u/solidstatepr8 8d ago

WWI in particular because those guys lived for weeks and months in a trench being pounded by artillery 24/7. Not only the constant terror and paranoia of one of those shells finding its mark, but just the constant concussive force giving them all conditions like CTE eventually.

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u/MrLanesLament 8d ago

At that time, I think PTSD was still called “shell shock” and it was a career killer. If you mentioned it to anyone other than your buddies of similar rank, you’d be mental-healthed out.

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u/knockfart 8d ago

Battle fatigue

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u/BatemansChainsaw 8d ago

Shell shock

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u/CurvyJohnsonMilk 8d ago

Theres one or two deaths in the first one. The second one Rambo kills about 200 faceless Asians. The third one he kills about 300 faceless russians, while defending the afghani freedom fights (i.e. the taliban)

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u/marbanasin 8d ago

They weren't the Taliban at that time, and to be fair there were many different militant factions, from different ethnic groups and regions.

But, yes. We funneled a shit load of weapons into that country to bleed the Russians and then just let it turn into a failed state so a Taliban like group could take over after. 0 shits given after Russia pulled out. And Rambo 3 is perfect at showing that sentiment in the West at the time.

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u/Brothless_Ramen 8d ago

The end of Charlie Wilson's War when he can't get any funding for the post-Soviet recovery is rough

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u/marbanasin 8d ago

We just fucked up the end game.

I love that film.

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u/Brothless_Ramen 6d ago

Put that shit on our country's headstone

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u/asst3rblasster 8d ago

one death and that's the idiot that fell out of a helicopter because he didn't strap himself in.

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u/1whoisconcerned 8d ago

One death. Accidental.

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u/bigpaparod 8d ago

And then more faceless asians in Thailand, which he didn't give a shit about until a pretty white girl got captured.

And the final one... shooting a bunch of faceless Mexicans, the true American dream of Stallone and the right-wingers.

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u/bomber991 8d ago

I mean the first one isn’t even called Rambo, it’s just called First Blood. This Vietnam war vet walks through a town and the sheriff doesn’t want him there, but he won’t leave so the sheriff arrests him. Rambo breaks out of jail and then starts defending himself as the police chase him and it just escalates from there.

The second film is Rambo winning the Vietnam war for us by saving some POWs. And the third film is Rambo helping our jihadi friends in Afghanistan beat the Russians. The third film he was going into Burma or something, I pirated it and fell asleep. The fourth film I think he fights the Mexican drug cartels.

So any way, first film is great. Second is great propaganda, though I think the Chuck Norris “Missing in Action” was even more over the top. Third was meh, fourth and fifth entertain you while you’re watching but you don’t really want to watch it again.

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u/Direct-Attention-712 8d ago

agree. the book was much different, darker and a different ending.

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u/Lurch2Life 8d ago

Originally, at the end of Rambo, he dies.

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u/cat_prophecy 8d ago

It's nuts how different the sequels are compared to the first movie. Having only seen Rambo 2 and 3 I assumed that the first one was more of the same.

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u/marbanasin 8d ago

The first is really good. Absolutely worth a watch.

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u/HereWeFuckingGooo 8d ago

Spoiler for the book but Rambo kills himself in the end and he was supposed to do the same in the movie. They even filmed the suicide scene, but they reshot the ending. Also, and somewhat ironically, Rambo is more violent in the book and it was Stallone that wanted him to be more of a pacifist in the movie... and then the sequels happened.

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u/inprocess13 8d ago

A lot of the homeless have been veterans your military and government lied to and left to die after they came back alive. 

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u/gsfgf 8d ago

Born in the USA!

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u/MeadowmuffinReborn 6d ago

You should check out the novel. Much more realistic and bleak about the plight of veterans than the jingoistic fantasies the movies were.