r/NoStupidQuestions • u/Garey_Coleman • 10d ago

Where are the homeless supposed to go?

Cities have been cracking down on homeless people so they can’t have encampments or stay on sidewalks. At the same time usually the shelters are full. So those who are unable to get into a shelter, where are they supposed to go?

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u/CauliflowerHealthy20 10d ago

The government wants to criminalize homelessness so they can put them all in prison. Once they're in prison they will be leased out to companies for cheap labor, basically modern slavery. 

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u/Res_Novae17 10d ago

There's not much work that could be done by homeless people better than robots.

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u/PeteMichaud 10d ago

This is stupid and paranoid. No one wants or needs labor at scale from a population who can barely function. Even if you were a mustache twirling evil slaver, what would you have them do?

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u/ProfessionalBraine 9d ago

A mustache twirling villain would harvest their usable organs, like what the CCP already does.

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u/smellyschmelly 9d ago

I'm interested in why you lie about China. How does it benefit you? If you're looking for organ harvesting, check in with Israel.

https://euromedmonitor.org/en/article/5982/Int%E2%80%99l-committee-must-investigate-Israel%E2%80%99s-holding-of-dead-bodies-in-Gaza%E2%80%8Bhttps://www.nbcnews.com/id/wbna34503294

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u/Taco_Nacho_Burrito 10d ago

I’m not saying that’s a good thing, but if you refuse to contribute to society (even if it’s for very legitimate reasons like severe mental health issues/tragic life events), and you don’t have the resources to take care of yourself, why should they benefit from society? At least in a prison they have a bed, a toilet, and three square meals a day.

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u/yourdarlingpuppy 10d ago

Dude what?? Prisons where they make you do slave labor? Past the naive ideology of “prison is free housing” the government is absolutely frothing for you to accept, how does one even measure societal worth? Are YOU doing enough scrolling on reddit?

Do not wax on this dubious idea of “what if they don’t serve society” like homeless people decided to be discarded by a failing oppressive system or suffer from anti-social mental illnesses and disabilities.

Society is not required to be served, by anyone. That’s what government fundings are for, and there’s more than enough to make homelessness not a problem if they truly cared for anyone other than billionaires. This is like how the onus of recycling was pushed onto the public by coke a cola ads when they switched to plastic.

Aim up not down.

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u/Taco_Nacho_Burrito 10d ago

Ah yes, this boils don’t to not making people do what they don’t want to do. Your issue isn’t the free housing, beds, toilets, or meals every day, it’s that they may have to put a little work into community service right? What alternative would you have that doesn’t involve giving homeless people free homes and benefits they don’t when to work for?

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u/swampg0blin 10d ago

I truly hope you are a young person. This is a scary mentality to see expressed as though it’s a normal and healthy opinion. No, the issue is not “free housing and three square meals a day.” The issue is a person’s freedom and dignity being determined by their perceived “contribution” to a society that does not care if they freeze to death in the streets, and in fact would probably see that as the preferable solution. I refuse to rebuke a single fucking poor person, regardless of their “usefulness” or lack there of, while a single billionaire exists. See you in the labor camps.

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u/Taco_Nacho_Burrito 10d ago

Would you prefer there be an island or large location far away from society where all homeless people can go, where they can live off of the earth and receive 0 assistance from society? I doubt anyone wants to live off of the earth when even while homeless you can still experience the benefits of internet, food, and other commodity’s.

And if someone’s usefulness isn’t determined by their ability to provide for themselves and/or contribute to society, then what is their value determined by? Just existing? Take an extreme example of a homeless person who’s genuinely violet, drug addicted, homeless, and unemployed. I know most aren’t violent or drug addicted but what is the “usefulness” of “value” that person to themselves, the people around them, or society?

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u/Noble_Titus 10d ago

Look up the Poor Law of Victorian England and read around it. This has already been covered in detail by greater minds than ours.

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u/sancatrundown73 10d ago

Prison is government housing now.

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u/TommyBananas97 10d ago

Since when can people with severe mental health issues be cured by any form of rehabilitation? We don't cure mental health issues, we treat the symptoms with prescription drugs and therapy.

I'm all for rehabilitation centers over prison, but I find the implied idea that we can send them to a rehab center for a few years and then they'll be fine to go on their own absurd. These people need lifelong care and they're going to get it on their own. 

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u/Taco_Nacho_Burrito 10d ago

I don’t see how providing housing, food, and beds to homeless people is “killing them” just because they’re forced to work? The elderly have retirement funds, disabled have government benefits, and children are literally taken care of by their families and or government programs in extreme situations. Expecting a full, able bodied adult to work is not “killing them” like y’all are being awfully dense about this.

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u/smellyschmelly 9d ago

How many meds does it take for you to fall asleep at night when you're so evil?

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u/Taco_Nacho_Burrito 9d ago

Preferring human beings sleep on concrete in the middle of the streets in the freezing cold/rain/heat, not have reliable sources of food, or bathrooms, is fucking evil.

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u/smellyschmelly 9d ago

You're right, it totally is. The answer, as literally all the evidence supports, is free housing as people get on their feet. Incarceration hides problems. It does not solve them. It makes them worse.

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u/Taco_Nacho_Burrito 9d ago

Who pays for the free housing? We do. The taxpayers do. What’s preventing any of us from just stopping work and getting free housing to “get back on our feet”?

What about all the homeless people who genuinely don’t want to work, do they stay in the free housing indefinitely, or do we force them to work as a contingency? Is it not morally wrong to force a human to do something against their freedom and dignity? They chose not to work, why force them to? If they do work, what if they build no savings and stay in free housing forever because they’re blowing through all their money? Do we monitor all their financial and personal activities? We would need a homeless management team comprising of tens of thousands of people to manage hundreds of thousands if not millions of homeless people. Who pays for the management team? We do, the tax payers. Again, what’s preventing anyone, mass amounts of people from just quitting their job for a free housing ticket.