r/NoStupidQuestions • u/Garey_Coleman • 10d ago

Where are the homeless supposed to go?

Cities have been cracking down on homeless people so they can’t have encampments or stay on sidewalks. At the same time usually the shelters are full. So those who are unable to get into a shelter, where are they supposed to go?

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u/Nasskit1612 10d ago

I had to do a clinical rotation in the psych ward. One guy I was working with had schizophrenia and hurt his mom(he had stopped taking his meds bc he felt fine), so he couldn’t go home. He was being released on the street bc there was no where for him to go - shelters were full. So he’s medicated and “fine” now and being put into the street. How is he going to continue to take his meds? I live in the north, how the f is he going to survive winter? 🤷‍♀️

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u/StormMaleficent6337 10d ago

What state is he in?

NY has “Code Blue” laws which means social services has to put you in a hotel for the night if it’s under 33 degrees, or at a shelter… but shelters are usually full so people go to motels/hotels and chill there

Growing up in NYC, I saw many people spend all winter in shelters and hotels because of Code Blue

You call 311 and they have to place you somewhere

Sometimes it’s even things called “warming stations”

I don’t know if any other state has this, but it’s a good reason why the homeless should go to NY during the winter, because it’s for non-NY residents as well

A huge reason why a lot of homeless take buses to NYC when it starts to get cold

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u/Caius01 9d ago

California doesn't have that, which is why more homeless people freeze to death in LA than NYC

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u/StormMaleficent6337 9d ago

Yup

As far as being homeless goes, or receiving benefits like food stamps and Medicaid, NY really is the best state to be in

Of course it leads to many people abusing the system, but better that than honest homeless people starving and dying and sleeping on pavement

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

i've never seen an individual abusing the system, and i've seen many things. i have seen politicians, the wealthy, and corporations abuse it tho. many times, ongoing.

people being people, yeah, maybe here and there someone gets a few hundred they "shouldn't" get or something. but you have to have proof/documentation to get things, usually even just to go to a food bank.

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u/StormMaleficent6337 9d ago

That’s true, but I’m talking about people claiming 2-3 other people on their food stamps because they “buy and prepare” food with them, even if that’s not the case, and those people make too much to qualify as well

I couldn’t care less, good on them for getting 750 instead of 350 a month, I’m just pointing it out on here for ya’ll

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u/thatsthefactsjack 9d ago

My ex applied for cash-aid without disclosing the long time live in partner's six figure income and hid tens of thousands of dollars, to become eligible at the end of 2023 and collected until May 2025. They got more than a few hundred dollars and didn't care whether our kids had enough food, clothes, shoes or anything else. They didn't worry about the kids because of equal parenting time. If I couldn't feed or get our kids the basics necessary for life, to them, that was my problem. All to get out of paying support and stick it to me and the kids.

The system is absolutely rife with vindictive parents who weaponize the system against the other parent. In my case, they intentionally deprived our children and me of mental, emotional and financial stability. I notified DCSS several times of their fraud and provided best evidence. DCSS buried their heads and maliciously prosecuted me anyways. I raised hell with investigative agencies and the court. They and DCSS are now under state investigation.

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

vengeful ex's are the bane of any system. good luck!

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u/Recent-Stretch4123 9d ago

To republicans, "abusing the system" simply means using it at all

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u/[deleted] 9d ago

good point

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u/yunggak 9d ago

In america system abuse u

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u/StormMaleficent6337 9d ago

In NY you can actually abuse the system, more than in any other state

I know people that claim 3-4 people on their food stamps and get around 1,000 bucks every month just for groceries, even though they don’t really need it

And they keep that going for years

It’s also the best state to have Medicaid in, in terms of what it gets you, especially for dental

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u/Signal-East-5942 9d ago

I spend 1000 a month on groceries for my family of 4 and I live in Kentucky, significantly cheaper than New York. It’s not for you to say whether they “really need it”.

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u/rommi04 9d ago

Doubt

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u/NikkiNot_TheOne 9d ago

Ok, ok, as someone from MA, I am stepping in neighbor!! We have a pretty good system here too 🤣. You'd think the country would model after our states! But that would mean the rich 1% wouldn't be in control. It makes me sick!

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u/StormMaleficent6337 9d ago

I lived in MA for a little while, but I was working in Boston, this was after my homeless years in NYC

SO i never really checked up on your social services

You guys have housing for homeless if it’s 32 or below in the winter and an extensive shelter system in general?

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u/NikkiNot_TheOne 8d ago

Yeah we do but I am not sure if we have the Code Blue or something like that where they can call and def get shelter.

I am so happy you're doing much better!

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u/sugahack 8d ago

I can personally attest to the fact that no one is getting rich on the dole. If you were going to run a con, you do it for profit.

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u/StormMaleficent6337 7d ago

No doubt, but you know what I mean… claiming 3 people on your stamps instead of 1, so you get like 750 a month instead of 300

I have no problem with it, just stating it is what it is

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u/sugahack 6d ago

Not sure where you live, but you wouldn't be able to do that here. They check that shit and then check it again every 6 months. Cross reference it against the irs and social security. Look up your property tax records. They're thorough

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u/StormMaleficent6337 6d ago

I saw it happen a lot in NY (the city but also upstate)

I have no idea how thorough the checking was or if people ever got in trouble

They would just say the stamps were used for buying and prepping food for 1-2 people other than themselves, and get stamps for 2-3 people monthly instead of the single amount

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u/sugahack 6d ago

Back when they still used foodies it was a lot easier to get away with crazy stuff. Go to the hood and there were always at least a couple people selling foodies in the parking lot. Gas station I worked at was the one in town at the time that took foodies. So all day long little kids would come in and buy one piece of penny candy at a time using a one dollar foodie. They'd take 0.99 in change home to mom or dad. Rinse and repeat. Late afternoon here would come mom or dad with a bag full of change to buy their kools and a 40

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u/StormMaleficent6337 6d ago

Word, this was standard practice back then (I grew up in Brooklyn)

And it was Kools and 40 ounces of freedom every single time, haha