r/Norway • u/throwrafootballdad • 3d ago
News & current events With allies like these who needs enemies?
Norway's probably the only small country in the world secure enough to withstand trade-ending tariffs from the US. It absolutely needs to start America-proofing its economy
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u/LeneHansen1234 3d ago
Best to watch from afar when the American bubble bursts.
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u/naynaytrade 3d ago
Iāve got my popcorn and am eagerly awaiting this shitstorm of a joke implode.
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u/Individual-Staff-978 2d ago
There will be consequences for us as well once it happens. There is no way to disconnect from the US economy unless you connect within a different hegemonic power
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u/immacomment-here-now 3d ago
Lmao itās just graham eating his gruel and spamming X.
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u/Dry-Philosopher-2714 3d ago
His account is likely run by a Russia troll.
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u/immacomment-here-now 3d ago
He is a Russian troll. So many Russian assets that donāt even know theyāre Russian assets. Russia is ahead of the US, miles ahead, with the divide and conquer.
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u/mika4305 3d ago edited 3d ago
Heās actually surprisingly pro Ukraine and anti Putin believe it or not, he also criticized the big beautiful bill and was against Trumpās policy on Ukraine. Iād say in the GOP heās definitely the most pro Ukraine/NATO representative.
But a broken clock is right twice a day I guess.
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u/maddie1701e 3d ago
He is actually anti-Trump, but he doesn't have the guts to say it out loud and cozying up to Trump to be in the in crowd. He's spineless.
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u/Dry-Philosopher-2714 3d ago
Oh, hell, they don't need divide and conquer. Putin just bought most of our politicians with his pocket change and a few golden showers.
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u/Dry-Philosopher-2714 3d ago
Itās not a bubble. Itās a giant whipped turd. Itās not going to burst. Itās going to explode.
Please stand back reeeeeeeallllllly far because itās gonna be ugly, smelly, and gross.
As for Lindsay Grahamā¦ thereās a belief that he has a thing you young boyā¦ sheep. Please donāt take him seriously. Nobody else doesā¦ except his sheep.
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u/antiantimighty 3d ago
Better to stay under Chinese shield, if america fell only the dollar will be hitting the world widely which can be replaced by china
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u/jzkwkfksls 3d ago
I would consider visiting the US, in its current state, a punishment rather than a privilege..
Go fuck yourself.
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u/thisismysffpcaccount 3d ago
Iām in Oslo on my honeymoon at the moment and am certainly feeling going home in a couple days to be a punishment as well. š©
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u/Drops-of-Q 3d ago
Remember to delete all your Vance memes before you go back
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u/DrunkPixel 3d ago
As an American, who once lived in Norway for a few yearsā¦. Returning to this shit hole has been awful and most certainly feels like a punishment every day.
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u/RegularEmpty4267 3d ago
It is quite disrespectful of Graham to say this when this is a decision based on the fund's ethical guidelines which are anchored in the parlament by representatives elected by the Norwegian people.
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u/CB_I_Hate_Usernames 3d ago
The man is complete and utter trash. There is not a chance his comment was made in good faith. Ignore him and stick to your ethics Norway!Ā
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u/Diligent_Activity_92 3d ago
Exactly! How could he know never experiencing a democracy in his life.
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u/optimalpooper 3d ago
Iām sorry for my countryās lack of accountability and ethics. I am very much trying to become one of you for this very reason.
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u/Inside-Parsley-3749 3d ago
Iām with you on this! I want a quiet life where I can just send my kid to school and know he will come home alive and not shot. Where I can just leave some anxiety in the US, and not have to worry about what psychos are making the rules and not having to live by them as they destroy our alliances and insult our allies thereby further endangering us when major catastrophes happen as they are bound to with idiots at the helm.
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u/Astrotoad21 3d ago
This is it. Deep down, people just want safety, stability and predictability. We do have some reactionary and populistic politicians and parties in Norway as well, but I would argue that our differences and political discussions are just small tweaks to a very stable and safe society. Luckily, things donāt get turned upside down every time the opposition wins the election.
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u/OscillatorVacillate 3d ago
Dont bring american politics, nor exceptionalism please.
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u/zors_primary 3d ago
Tell that to your politicians, there are some who think the tax breaks for the rich while cutting social programs model is something to emulate. I moved here for family and no way do I want this to be anything like the USA.
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u/OscillatorVacillate 3d ago edited 3d ago
I wasnt talking about our politicians, I was talking to the american that sees Norway as a way to ascape fixing his country not to bring that bs over here. We are coming up on a vote in 10 days, so we know very well what is happening in our country, we dont need more of you over here
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u/AdAgitated1100 2d ago
Clear legal framework
- The fund is governed by the Government Pension Fund Act and detailed investment mandates from the Ministry of Finance.
- These rules limit how the fund can be used, ensuring it supports long-term national wealth rather than short-term political projects.
- The government and parliament decide the fundās overall strategy (asset allocation, ethical guidelines, withdrawal limits).
- Norges Bank Investment Management (NBIM), part of the central bank, makes all individual investment decisions without political interference.
- All investments are published online.
- The fund releases quarterly and annual reports, and independent auditors check the results.
- This high level of openness makes it harder for politicians to secretly misuse the fund.
- An independent ethics council advises on excluding companies that violate human rights, damage the environment, or engage in corruption.
- This ensures investment choices follow long-term ethical principles rather than political favoritism.
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u/OrgBarbus 3d ago
"Doing business with America is a privilege, not a right". Wow, its like doing business with Norway is a privilege for Americans and not a right. š
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u/throwrafootballdad 3d ago
"Doing business with America is a privilege not a right. Oh, you stopped doing business with one of our companies? How dare you?"
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u/WonderfulStrategy337 3d ago
Maybe we should start by slowly selling off our 200 billions in US Dept Bonds and begin to decouple our economy a little more from the world's largest Banana Republic. Invest in some more stable and grown-up allies instead. Wouldn't want to "overprivilege" ourself into helping to prop up the US dollar more than we already do.
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u/Mr_Boomguy 3d ago
Why do I feel like it's just the Amarican arrogance that's showing, always been there under the surface.
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u/andrerav 3d ago
Imagine being a dimwit politician and getting into an argument with a wealth fund that owns > 1.5% of the global stock market. Good luck with that.
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u/FineMaize5778 3d ago
Haha brenn i helvete nazi pakk.Ā
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u/Fearless_Entry_2626 3d ago
Han er republikansk skaphomo, som ikke klarer Ć„ lure noen som helst, han er i helvete allerede
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u/Diligent_Activity_92 3d ago edited 3d ago
As a person born in the US who is now a Norwegian citizen...Well, I am eternally grateful for Norway being such an amazing place to live. My number one complaint for far too long was Norway letting its foreign policy being much too influenced by the US.
I am very happy to see Norway has found its backbone and is standing up. We still have democracy here and its still possible for everyday people to live a decent life.
Hope more Norwegians wake up and see that the greatest enemy to Norwegian values is the US. As the US, has divided the people and via that infighting has crushed unions, access to healthcare and education and basically made people to decide on their fears as hope is gone. For a long time I have boycotted as many US products as possible and am proud to say I will never set foot again on that shithole of a country. May the everyday people there rise up and take it back.
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u/CuriosTiger 3d ago
As a person born in Norway who is now a US citizen, Graham pissed me off with this statement. He's literally trying to meddle in the affairs of a sovereign country. On behalf of Norway, he can shove his BS where the sun doesn't shine. On behalf of the US, I urge every American to vote for politicians who actually believe in the US Constitution and the rule of law -- which means voting against this sycophantic imbecile.
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u/turtleshaveshortlegz 3d ago
Iām sorry in advance if I sound like Iām making excuses, because Iām absolutely not. Everyone here speaks the truth. I just wanted to convey how truly bleak and dysfunctional and STUPID it is over here right now:
The worst part is voting does no good (we should still do it regardless though!! of course!!!) because they rezone republican/red states to ensure there are not enough democrats in any one district to actually flip it blue. The zones look insane. Google it lol
The vast majority of red states would not be going to republicans, without a fight, if it werenāt for the rezoning/redlining and the electoral college.
I know it doesnāt change anything, but just added context I guess.
Somehow just one loud ass group of people, maybe 1/3 max of the US, keep the rest feeling so hopeless, and like their vote doesnāt matter, that many have just checked out.
That is the hardest part of reasoning with people here. Like, it really doesnāt matter! For the vast majority of people, their vote is meaningless due to the electoral college and the aforementioned zoning.
Many who skipped voting were in states where it is zoned in such a way that it is statistically impossible for the vote to go to anyone other than republicans. And, on top of that, since you canāt get time off to vote, and they intentionally make blue areas difficult to vote in with too few polling placesā¦ many just say āfuck itā because their vote has genuinely never changed anything.
And how do you debate or reason with that? Their vote doesnāt matter, intentionally, by design. It really doesnāt. Itās demoralizing for those who arenāt super checked in politically, and due to republican anti-education policies, many arenāt checked in. They donāt even understand anything about politics. They understand team sports though, so they treat it like one.
That or they are totally apathetic, because to them, there is no way out. Itās a shit life and always has been in red states in the same way itās becoming for all of the US now. You cannot vote them out. You canāt. Itās rigged! Trump is just a symptom. This is what has been happening on a state level with elections and overreach, itās just finally being expanded to the federal level.
In my state, republicans run uncontested because dems literally cannot win due to the zoning. Theyāve been ordered by the feds multiple times to fix it due to it being blatant voter suppression/gerrymandering. They wonāt. And face no real repercussions because there are only republicans in charge of the justice systemā¦ due to the zoning.
Itās an endless hell loop of dysfunction.
I used to want to do so many cool things, but I will likely never have an actual life again (my disabled mom lost her benefits) because I committed the sin of being born poor in Trumpās/republicansā America. Poor is the worst thing you can possibly be in the US.
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u/Quirky-Cap3319 3d ago
That electoral college seems to do more damage than good.
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u/zors_primary 3d ago
It's horrible, and the majority of Americans want to get rid of it.
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u/turtleshaveshortlegz 3d ago
The electoral college + the supreme court (and its lifetime appointmentsā¦) will 100% be the ultimate cause of death for the USA.
The citizens united decision destroyed us, likely permanently.
The only hope I truly feel day to day now is that we are likely to fall so hard we will no longer be able to subjugate the entire world and commit endless atrocities under the guise of being the dominant world power.
My generation will probably suffer from the effects of our soul sucking, crumbling, redneck empire, to varying degrees, for the rest of our livesā¦ but, I am choosing to believe that perhaps the next generations, here and worldwide, will be better, safer, more peaceful without the influence of one of historyās most evil empires looming over and stomping out any hope for a better world. In the meantime, weāve just got to do what we can for those we can, and try to be brave enough to fight and live through it all so that future is possible for the coming generations. Even if the dream is dead for us. š¤·āāļø And hopefully mitigate some of the effects these assholes have on the rest of the world.
However, we are a nation built of cowards who ran when times got hardā¦ and you can fuckin tell tbh. I know I will fight, but I do often wonder if Iāll be doing it alone when it comes down to it š
Bleak times. Iām one person and so are you, and so is anyone who reads this, I knowā¦ but Iām truly sorry my country is so full of hate and vitriol, and the leaders the worst among us manage to elect are backstabbing narcissists hell bent on hurting our most loyal friends and allies the most. In my dreams, Iām anywhere but here and anything other than American š¤£ So disgusting and embarrassing, but mostly sad. Not for us, but for those we are hurting so so badly for no reason at all. WTF is life now.
(I am out here inserting myself in a Norwegian sub though so Iām just as annoying as any other American that Iām talking shit about so ignore me. š In my defense, pretty nature pics are a solid cure for doomscrollingā¦ and itās nice to read comments from people who arenāt profoundly fuckin dumb)
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u/Quirky-Cap3319 3d ago
So hypothetically, if the nation should fall very hard, wouldn't the military step in and assume power, as scary as that can be.
There is always hope for a better world, regardless of what the cynics are saying.
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u/turtleshaveshortlegz 2d ago
it is seen as a gross moral failing by libs/the left to be in the military and it is celebrated as the highest honor by the right.
and by that, i meanā¦ Iām not sure how much the demographic willing to join the military modern day will side with the good guys :/
media has made every aspect of american society hyperpartisan over the last 20 years.
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u/CuriosTiger 2d ago
You make a lot of good points. I live in the US, but I'm not poor -- and the opportunities I had growing up in Norway are frankly what make that possible.
All the dysfunction and political BS aside, my daily life here in the US is still pretty good. But I don't think that can possibly last with the level of self-inflicted wounds we are currently taking as a society, culturally, economically and structurally. The modern-day GOP wants to basically raze the government to the ground, but they have no plan for what comes next. It's the usual reactionary shortsightedness, but for some reason, they've been more successful at it this time.
What I do know is that when a powerful elite bleeds the rest of society dry, historically speaking, it always ends in violence. In the US' case, that day will come when we reach a critical mass of Americans living in abject poverty and their Mango Mussolini won't fix it.
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u/Steffalompen 3d ago
Most know. But you will not find a government any time soon who is willing to do anything substantial about it, because USA has us by the balls.
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u/No_Signature4723 1d ago
Alle partiene i Stortinget stĆ„r sammen om nato og kaller trump daddy. PĆ„ tide Ć„ gjĆøre noe med det! Stem For dette stortingsvalget, vi vil ha nato og usa ut av Norge
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u/No_Signature4723 1d ago
Deler flere amerikanere i Norge din oppfatning? De med stemmerett. Vet de om For fred rettferdighet slik at vi kan regne med dem, tror du? Jeg antar at bildet er nyansert
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u/Diligent_Activity_92 1d ago
Jeg har ikke sĆ„ mye kontakt med amerikanere, sĆ„ jeg er ikke helt sikker. StĆørstedelen av mitt sosiale nettverk bestĆ„r av nordmenn. F.eks, jeg snakke norsk pĆ„ jobben og hjemme ofte. En ting som irriterer meg er amerikanere som kaller seg for expats i stedet for Ć„ kalle seg innvandrere eller midlertidige bosatte...Just sayin'
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u/Gyufygy 3d ago
America is not a reliable partner right now, even when interests seemingly align. I'm an American in the U.S., and we can't even keep straight what nonsense the government is doing day to day other than, whatever it is, it's probably going to make things worse. Sorry, y'all, but don't look to us for much right now.
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u/prettyinpinknwhite 3d ago
Another American in the US (who loves Norway!) and I agree. Please cut the US off. Do not invite us to anything. Assume that any commitments or promises we make will be broken the minute itās convenient (unless itās something that benefits Daddy Putin or Bibi the criminal, then we have to deliver). The morons whoāve bought and/or gerrymandered their way into power need to learn that the only reason America has any weight to try to throw around in the first place is that we were once (pre-Trump) considered a reliable ally. Flawed, for sure, but other countries knew we could generally be counted on to use our strength in ways that would benefit the countries who trusted us enough to be our allies.
Now we are burning ourselves to the ground based on the whims of a demented megalomaniac who wears makeup that looks like a can of orange soda spewed onto his face when he tried to open it. But a significant aspect of having power is that other people have to believe you have it too. Before long I think we will find that other countries see us as an annoying chihuahua who barks and growls like itās a Rottweiler, but could be swooped up and eaten anytime a passing owl wants a snack.
Sorry, yāall. A lot of the population is too stupid to realize that our relations with other countries are important, but for those of us who do, it is extremely embarrassing to have turned into such a shitty āfriend.ā
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u/nipsen 3d ago
This is like.. not even in the top 10 of the most unhinged Lindsey Graham statements this week. From starting multiple new wars, encouraging nuclear first strikes, the dissolvement of any international agreements, to specific comments about energy policy in multiple countries.
And they're all 100% in line with current US foreign policy.
Really, I'm just so very grateful for our greatest ally ever.
But whatever you do, please don't mason the country inside a brick dome. We would /hate/ that. Do anything but masoning yourselves into a brick dome. Dear gods the Euros would be so mad if the US did that.
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u/DarrensDodgyDenim 3d ago
In all seriousness, it is probably time to quietly reduce the fund's exposure to the US. Politically, that country is not stable anymore.
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u/AngryFrog24 3d ago
I hope they do this and we retaliate. We should divest from every US company and refuse their military from training here. Let the whole world kick these fascists out of their countries. Let them become North Korea 2.0.
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u/trying1more 3d ago
When that orange lump of lard discovers the existence of Svalbard he may claim he wants it to go along with Greenland
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u/AngryFrog24 3d ago
He claims a lot of things. He just claimed he was the president of Europe (no joke, he seriously said that). He's demented.
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u/trying1more 3d ago
Europe (von de Leyen) has let him walk all over Europe. Still amazed how people don't learn that letting him bitch you about will only lead to more humiliation. He will never stop wanting more
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u/AngryFrog24 3d ago
That's one narrative, but so far I haven't seen any result of the "bad deal". It wasn't even a deal, but a promise she couldn't even keep because it wasn't up to her (private investment). The energy purchases were already happening. The only thing that might be bad is an unspecified "billions" in US military hardware purchases. Those could be contracts that are already paid for.
He hasn't actualy gotten anything. No medium/big US businesses have moved back. No medium/big foreign businesses have moved to the US. Nothing but more taxes on US Americans through tariffs, a declining economy and reputation.
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u/Elkesito36482 3d ago
How about the massive oil deal that will screw clean energy development? Stop negotiating with fascists
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u/Original_Employee621 3d ago
The EU is kinda stuck in the middle between the US and China as major trading partners. Untangling from the US is important, but China isn't a good trade partner either.
An immediate cut off from the US would spell disaster for the European economy and even worse for Ukraine. The EU needs to buy time to put new trade deals and agreements in place with other countries, as they gradually wean off the US relations. There is also still a vain hope that the US can come back from its fascist flirt (though personally, I think they need to come to terms with the US as a fascist state akin to Russia for decades to come).
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u/throwrafootballdad 3d ago
The issue with a fascist flirt like this is you don't extinguish it until you comprehensively defeat it in a war. And that's not happening, so even if the odd election goes the other way, you can't have security guarantees and normal relations with a country perpetually 4 years away from fascism
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u/Original_Employee621 3d ago
The issue is complicated beyond just finance and economics. It's about the core ideals the EU wants to demonstrate, democracy, free trade and equality. If they back out of US relations, they are forced to admit that the Western ideals of freedom and democracy have failed. That the EU is the lone bastion of equality left in the world. China, Russia or the UAE certainly do not believe in equality for all. And consequently, the EU would be under siege on all sides by right wing forces of anti-modernism and fascists.
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u/throwrafootballdad 3d ago
The EU is indeed the lone bastion of equality in the world. Not admitting that doesn't change reality. Although how they hold that line, I have no idea either
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u/Original_Employee621 3d ago
Because admitting that freedom and equality are failed ideals means that I am better than you, because I am a landed Norwegian. It would be my right to treat you worse, because you aren't landed or Norwegian, and Norway is one of the richest countries in the world.
Admitting that we were wrong would make life so much harder for any LGBTQ+ people, immigrants or refugees. It would mean it's okay to mass incarcerate undesireable people or bomb hospitals and schools. It would mean, it's okay to treat women like property again and make them into baby ovens for mens pleasure, and they would have to cater to their every whim and abuse. Because the US doesn't give a shit anymore, and Russia or China certainly does not have a good track record on that front either.
Were the ideals perfectly implemented? No, not at all. There is a lot of inequality within the EU. But giving up on the US would make everything so much harder and expensive for everyone in Europe too.
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u/Square-Hope-7322 3d ago
Like for real, what are those gun laws for if not protecting your fellow man, woman and child from fascism
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u/CB_I_Hate_Usernames 3d ago
You probably should. But alsoāplease donāt wish too harsh of a fate on the whole country. I hate the motherfucker and every one of his supporters and cronies, but itās not easy to emigrate. There are a lot of people here with no control over what theyāre doing that also have to deal with the results.Ā
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u/trying1more 3d ago
Norway is best-positioned to withstand the US's economic vandalism. Don't give an inch even if it means halting all US trade. Actively start divesting away from US companies, and begin to culturally view the US as a belligerent bad acting adversary on par with Russia. Oh, and of course expel the Israeli ambassador while you're at it
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u/LurpTheHerpDerp 3d ago
For someone who believes in unchecked capitalism, he sure does get upset when Norway invest like they feel like. Ā«People should be free to do as they with wish with their moneyā¦ as long as it benefits me!Ā»
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u/Appropriate-End-5667 3d ago
We hold the line in the arctic, and we have lots of tech and energy. Not to mention our pension-fund, and a diplomat-network to make anyone envious. The US needs influence in spheres we control, so I'm not to worried. Then again, the US is likely a few weeks away from civil war, so we'll see. Anyhow, we have seen winter and darkness before, we endure, we survive, and we trust that spring will come.
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u/Significant_Risk9903 3d ago
I was not expecting to see a 70 year old dude when i googled that name
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u/MumenRiderZak 3d ago
De laver da bare venner alle vegne her i Scandinavien hva?
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u/OscillatorVacillate 3d ago
Fuck disse yankeer, om de kommer for GrĆønland sĆ„ kommer jeg til Danmarks forsvar!
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u/FlaviusStilicho 3d ago
Maybe Norway should counter threaten to sell all its US Government bonds at the same time and see what happens
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u/RadicalRazel 3d ago
What a great reminder that the US is a sinking ship and it's about time to evacuate. For the last 80 years we've handcuffed ourselves to a very stupid giant. Enough is enough. Til helvete med baseavtalen
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u/OlivierTwist 3d ago
"Geopolitical differences" is an interesting choice of words to describe what Israel is doing.
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u/throwrafootballdad 3d ago
The geopolitical difference where Norway thinks starving children should be given food, and Israel thinks they should be shot in the head. How silly to fall out over that!
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u/freewififorreal 3d ago
the land of corruption.... home of the suckers
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u/saintsithney 3d ago
Our education system has been deliberately and systematically gutted since integration.
Many of us aren't stupid, but if you ever want an excellent argument for why public education is important gestures vaguely.
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u/hentailicker94 3d ago
Does not surprise me this nonsense comes from this filth mouth. The same dude who said lets nuke Iran. š¤¦āāļøš¤¦āāļøš¤¦
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u/redditreader1972 3d ago
He should take his fury out on the MSCI global sustainability list. They blacklisted Caterpillar, the pension fund just took its time following their lead.
It was back in 2012...
https://www.msci.com/www/research-report/general-q-a-removal-of/014474387
Let him try, see if they care..
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u/FinancialSurround385 3d ago edited 3d ago
Heās going full Trump.. I never thought Iād see the day when the US no longer is a friend. I guess I was naive.Ā
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u/Extreme_Cheek_6168 3d ago
I'm one of those Americans that wishes the US could follow Norway's example in almost all situations. But then we have this guy...
I'm active in trying to unfuck this country, but -- hoo boy -- there's a whole lot of stupid fuckery over here.
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u/a_karma_sardine 3d ago
Keep it up! Fighting is extra important when it's hard. Giving up is the riskiest solution.
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u/LookOutOn 3d ago
As someone who lives in Norway I can say good decision from Norway. More we are away from US more freedom we have.
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u/Rizboel 3d ago
Maybe norway should pull out the money have in US companies and see what happens.
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u/Few_Ad6516 3d ago
it would temporarily cause short term volatility and drop prices but the markets would quickly rebound. The shares are not being sold because of poor corporate results, plus its only 1.1% of s&p 500. Most investors would probably be very grateful.
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u/Ok_Chard2094 3d ago
Maybe Graham would appreciate it if the Norwegian Sovereign Wealth Fund sold all their holdings in American stocks, bonds, and real estate in one go...
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u/Emotional_Fail_6060 3d ago
As a US citizen, I apologize to the rest of the world for the cadre of complete idiots currently in charge of our country. I'm sorry. You shouldn't have to deal with their lunacy. š
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u/PinkSlimeIsPeople 3d ago
As an American, these right wing nut jobs in the Republican Party aren't America's friends either. They're literal fascists or Quislings.
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u/Slayer_Actual 3d ago
Atleast the people who run the fund have demonstrated intelligence, values, morals and a strong sense of ethicality.
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u/AdNarrow5744 2d ago
To all Our sisters & brothers in the Nordic contries, let's all boycott US bassed companies.
At least untill a US President with a BRAIN moves into the White House..
Greetings from š©š°
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u/Kimolainen83 3d ago
He's just pissy because he lost money,m Lindsey Graham is a really weird and horrible person overall lol
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u/ConstantUpstairs 3d ago
Lindsey Graham is a low hanging fruit... Dude is a nutcase. Several years ago there was a post on this site detailing some prostitutes dealing's with the man.... Ladybugs is all I'm going to say about it... Scarred for life with that ...
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u/Gyufygy 3d ago
He's not a nutcase, he's a worm. He'll say one thing and then the complete opposite two minutes later if he thinks it'll get him votes or money or dick. He's a sleazeball, not an ideologue.
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u/ConstantUpstairs 3d ago
So a politician. That's what the vast majority of them do, not even exclusively to just the US. But I do agree, he is a sleezeball. Far from the only one but yes lol. I would maybe go further and say swamp scum but beneath even that lol
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u/Niksuski 3d ago
Having other countries do business with the US is not their right either. I thought it was ridiculous already when musk wanted to sue companies for not advertising on his shit platform anymore. This is turning that up to 11, if they actually tried to retaliate in some way.
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u/mistersnips14 3d ago
Caterpillar's stock is up 26% over the last six months, Lindsey.
Upon reviewing their financial guidance, the explicit reason they are revising their annual forecast is because of tariffs levied by the President and not Congress, which as a congressman is a failure that falls on you, Lindsey.
But go on and blame Norway for some reason, Lindsey.
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u/WinterMedical 3d ago
Just here as an American to say āWe are so so sorryā as we shuffle our drunk uncle out of the restaurant.
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u/canadafreendstrong 3d ago
As for American weaponry
europe should follow Canada and cancel any present and future plans for American weapons of any kind , think about it the US is fast becoming the most unstable and likely #1 threat to democracy and democratic countries ,we cannot afford to put our security in their hands , find alternatives , at this point even china is looking more trustworthy than the US ; and we canāt trust China either .
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u/nope_nope_nope_yep_ 3d ago
Ugh.. as an American itās really sad these days. Iām headed to Norway in like two weeks and I want to wear a shirt that says āI didnāt vote for the idiotā so maybe people hate me a little less.. :/
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u/AdAgitated1100 2d ago
Good idea lol...
I think Norwegians will welcome you anyway, and then maybe back of if you were one of his voters.
You're going to be fine...no worries:)
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u/mika4305 3d ago
Heās distracting from the fact that Laura Loomer outed him as gay under oath at a court hearing, and then she doubled down.
Insecure little man, these idiots are gonna eff around Scandinavia/Nordics and find out, we punch way above our weight.
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u/Primary-Pianist-2555 3d ago
Who wants to go to the US anyway. And we do not have much trade with them.
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u/Open_Put_7716 3d ago
Not sure threatening the SWF that has $770 billion invested in the US with repercussions after it withdraws a $1.6 bn stake from one firm is that smart of a move. Wanna lose the other $768 billion Lindsey buddy?
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u/theHawkAndTheHusky 3d ago
Visiting the USA would be a punishment in the current state (probably ain't gonna get better pretty soon) if you ask me.
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u/T0thLewis 3d ago
I feel like another Civil War in the USA is a guarantee at this point. Or at least will be when Donnie signs an executive order to bring back slavery.
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u/Vegandi_kona 3d ago
I think it's kind of cute that this tosser appears to believe that visiting the USA is essential.
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u/Oddme9 3d ago
So, the fund has been investing more in the US than in any other country. They choose not to invest in one US company as they help demolish Palistinian towns on Palestinian territory.
Are we not free to choose where we invest our money? If the reactions to such a trifle decision are extreame and we're getting sanctioned over this, maybe the US economy is too risky to invest in? Should we move all our investments to other countries? Would not such behaviour also scare off other foreign investors? This is such a weird thing to ficus on and rant about. Just shut up! You don't have to like it, but it makes no difference in the US economy or the US-Norwegian relations. The tarrifs, however, will make a difference to both. Maybe your focus should be there.
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u/ReserveLegitimate738 2d ago
America needs to do better, it's a total disgrace and a sh*t show right now. No respect for that country's politics, no fear of it's might as well.
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u/Alpakatt 2d ago
Okay, America, notorious for not knowing the difference between privilege and right, really should back off.. I do believe the whole thing is about to implode, so untangling is probably not the worst idea imaginable..
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u/Crispeh_Muffin 1d ago
We sent soldiers to help America woth their wars, many of them gave their lives to help, because we are a founding NATO member. But we didn't punish America for making us do that
But Norway making a decision against a company for their immoral choices, and now we are the bad guys?
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1d ago
American here - Lindsey Graham is considered a joke by many on both sides of the American politics.
A lot of republicans (of which I generally belong) forget that free markets means the right to or not to be an investor or customer of a company.
He is a joke and a shill for isreal, along with many other republicans and democrats.
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u/musing_codger 3d ago
As an US citizen, I can only say that I'm sorry. This sort of bullying is completely unjustified. I wish that I could blame it on the actions of a rogue official or government, but sadly, this sentiment is popular in the US right now. I pray that it doesn't endure. Once again, I'm sorry that this is happening, and I completely understand the anger directed at the US from far more countries than just Norway.
As an aside, I visited Norway in July, and despite the behavior of so many of my fellow citizens, I was treated very well. I can't say enough good things about the people I met while I was there. Thank you for your amazing hospitality. You have a beautiful country with a lot of wonderful people.
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u/Maleficent-Being-238 3d ago
Pathetic.. atp i would've just used the money to invest in China to just stick it to them, but allas we wont
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u/Schroinx 3d ago
The US today would rather sell Svalbard to Russia, as it has tried to give Eastern Ukraine to Russia.
Then they have designs for Greenland...
After the election, its time for Norway to join the EU and be covered by art 42.7, as US is proving an adversary. Its also time for EU to stand up.
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u/Foxtrot-Uniform-Too 3d ago
The Nobel peace price commitee is in meetings these days to decide who to give the Nobel peace price to. And closeted cocksucker Lindsey Graham is threatening Norway.
Only a few weeks after Trump forced Norway and Germany to pay for the Patriot missiles the US sent to Ukraine.
You are not getting the Nobel peace price, Donald Trump. Lindsey Graham makes sure of that.
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u/Humble-Technology-78 3d ago
That would be fun to watch. Get it into Trump's head that Lindsay cost him "his" Nobel Prize, then stand back and watch the drama. At least it might distract them for a while.
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u/Randalf_the_Black 3d ago
The sentient tub of lard people call Lindsey Graham can go fuck himself with a cactus.
The US has no right to dictate the foreign policy of Norway!
Fuck off and die you geriatric, withered pig scrotum.
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u/Big-Today6819 3d ago
Time for EU to be a global army equipment leadership, we are forced to control our own safety.
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u/AuriTheFae 3d ago
"Doing business with, or visiting america is a privilage!!!!" Hahahahahaha. Thanks for making me laugh.That felt good. You can continue to live inside your pretty buble and throw insults and threats to other countries while we all continue to laugh our asses of to you.
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u/Bushido79 3d ago
I was about to say Lindsey can lick my butt hole, but he would probably like that. He can lick my dog's butt hole.
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u/Beneficial_North1824 3d ago
Wow, Republicans run their country so well that they have to threaten everyone in the world to make them in business with American companies