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u/Consistent_Public_70 1d ago
The most spectacular part of the story is the guy who was driving along the road and was caught by the landslide. He happened to be transporting a boat on a trailer, and he managed to jump out of the car and into the boat in time to save himself so that he ended up floating in his boat on the lake instead of buried in his car.
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u/Minute-Soft-9074 1d ago
Wait, really? Do you have anywhere I can read about that?
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u/ThorAlex87 1d ago
Trønder-avisa has a story about it: https://www.t-a.no/tatt-av-raset-utrolig-at-han-hadde-med-bat/s/5-116-2210811 It's paywalled, but available if you have +alt from another newspaper.
Short version is his car and trailer with the boat on it was taken by the slide, he managed to get out and tried saving his dog from the trunk before the car sank but had to give up and climbed into the boat to save himself. Firefighters that where first on the scene found a boat nearby and rowed in to save him. The dog was later found dead by a drone.
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u/Optimal-Factor-8564 14h ago
Oh no, the poor dog. And the guy losing his dog like that. What an awful feeling.
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u/Lady0905 7h ago
So, «one dead» means the dog? I don’t get it, sorry …
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u/ThorAlex87 6h ago
No, one person that was working on the railroad is still missing and presumed dead.
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u/Prestigious-End1345 22h ago
Sad story, but why the hell was the dog in the TRUNK?
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u/Consistent_Public_70 20h ago
In Norwegian the same word (bagasjerom) is used for the cargo space of any passenger vehicle, regardless of whether it is a sedan, station wagon or SUV. Norwegians who are not very familiar with English are likely to use the English word trunk in the same way.
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u/ThorAlex87 18h ago
Thanks. What would have been the correct word for the cargo area of an SUV or station wagon?
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u/Consistent_Public_70 18h ago edited 18h ago
Typically it would just be called a cargo area, or just "in the back".
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u/Lexi_Bean21 9h ago
Norwegians are very familiar with English its just the fact norway doesent really have a seperate word for the 2 types or cargo space so it's just trunk
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u/okapibeear 1d ago
https://www.nrk.no/trondelag/en-person-savnet-etter-jordskred-pa-e6-1.17548194
Person i vannet: Person in the water
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u/Wingesos 23h ago
The most Norwegian thing I’ve read today.
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u/Ireallylikereinhardt 21h ago
What was the most Norwegian thing you read yesterday?
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u/Wingesos 17h ago
Hmm probably how it’s a growing problem in marriages that one person wants visitors at the cabin while the other wants peace and quiet, with marriage counsellors giving advise how to mitigate the conflict.
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u/titanbytes 1d ago
Value of that red house just plummeted
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u/JRS_Viking 1d ago
Yeah they seem to be missing some driveway, gonna be an interesting time ahead for them
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u/Emielo85 1d ago
Norway is cut in half by this. If you drive truck you have to use Sweden, cuz other alternativ rout are not designed for heavy trucks. Also its hurt the industry and trandsport!
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u/Arwen_the_cat 23h ago
E6, that's a major route. It'll have real impact.Goodness. If I was driving North from Trondheim, I would take the ferry over to Vannvikan and drive on the other side of the fjord versus driving through Sweden
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u/Emielo85 23h ago
Or u can drive from Skogn, take the old E6 (gammle kongevei) and next the fv117, and fv 118...and finaly fv108. Then you will meet E6 again in the sentrum of Åsen.
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u/ForceMountain5977 1d ago
I would have used this as a opportunity to start my very own toll road! Just connect the two roads via my garden and set up a booth! What would you have charged?
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u/Gadgetman_1 6h ago
Anyone using ANY heavy machinery to do anything with the ground in that area is likely to get lynched by the locals.
This was quite probably a mudslide caused by unstable quick clay deposits. The area is on the map, listed as a cautious zone. It may actually have been triggered by the stabiliszing work the railroad maintenance crew was doing.
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u/USBPowered 22h ago
Land-owners have been warning the government about this for ages apparently. Govt. didn't listen and here's the result.
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u/Jackstract 1d ago
Monetary value maybe, but when I was young we'd ski to hytta for fun.. It builds character xd
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u/troll_right_above_me 1d ago
On the bright side they’ll be the only ones on the road in either direction
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u/matpol98 1d ago
I live 30 minutes north of this, used to be a truck driver passing this place multible times a day, glad I'm not in that job right now, as there is not any good alternative routes made for trucks...
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u/4n_nork 1d ago
Jesus, I need to go through there Tuesday, guess I’m gonna have to take the 1h way around (no truck, thank god)
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u/matpol98 1d ago
If you drive a car there are a few local roads, but I assume the local council will come up with some sort of temporary solution by Monday atleast
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u/starkicker18 1d ago
The local paper (behind a paywall) has reported that statens vegvesen has suggested two routes: take the 755 from Straumen over and drive via Fosen to the ferry at Rørvik (smaller cars and transport); or detour via Sweden 72 - 322- E14 (heavy trucks/heavier vehicles).
Note: anyone taking the Sweden route -- make sure you have all your papers etc.. in order before you exit and try to re-enter Norway.
Local residents recommend that northbound traffic take the Fv6854 (gamle kongevei) and southbound traffic take 753 via Frosta, but these are not official routes, just literally two dudes on a tractor who live in the area.
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u/lemonracer69 1d ago
When i took my bike from Levanger to Åsen i took the nearby fv111 which runs on the opposite side of the lake. You could probably go that route
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u/CAPSLAN 1d ago
I also see this as a suggestion in Google maps. Can anyone verify that it's OK for a regular car? Going past there tonight.
Edit: I see google maps shows it as Fv111, but Statens Vegvesen maps shows it as gamle kongens veg (Fv6854)
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u/lemonracer69 21h ago
Gamle kongens vei yeah. There are houses nd farms along the road, although i remember the road passing under the train tracks. That's probably what they refer to when they say local roads work for cars but not trucks
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u/Gazer75 23h ago
Please don't use Google, they haven't updated numbers on roads in 5+ years at this point.
There was a big reform that started after 2010 and another that came into effect in 2020 which saw all county roads getting unique numbers across the country.
What you see as fv111 is now fv6854.
The old number was unique only to the old Nord-Trøndelag county until they merged the two in 2018.Openstreetmap is more up to date in many cases as it uses official road data and is a community driven map database.
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u/LigersMagicSkills 1d ago
Statens Vegvesens proposed a one hour detour through neighbouring Sweden for trucks over 50t. That’d be huge pain with customs! https://www.vegvesen.no/om-oss/presse/aktuelt/2025/08/e6-i-levanger-blir-stengt-i-flere-dager-etter-ras/
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u/Gazer75 23h ago
I'm guessing they try to avoid to much traffic on the smaller county roads.
But fv6854, 6852 and 6818 are all viable detours. 6854 does have a 4.2m height restriction under a railroad bridge, but other than that all are ok for regular trucks as they are Bk10 50t and 19.5m.3
u/OhChrisis 14h ago
though, really narrow at places.
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u/Gazer75 10h ago
Maybe you're used to a nice wide road with a yellow divider. These roads may be narrow, but perfectly fine.
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u/OhChrisis 8h ago
True, but at some points 2 trucks wont be able to pass without having some of the wheels in the ditch
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u/Gazer75 8h ago edited 7h ago
How do trucks drive daily on narrow roads like this then? Heard of passing places? Plenty of narrow roads like this around the country with no alternative.
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They can also easily institute temporary one way for trucks to avoid them meeting other trucks.
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u/OhChrisis 7h ago
Sure, but those arent trying to replace E6. It isnt the first time those roads has been stalled because 2 trucks couldnt pass each other
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u/kdj05 1d ago
Where is this?
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u/matpol98 1d ago
On the E6 one hour north of Trondheim, between Levanger and Åsen (near Ronglan to be exact)
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u/Maje_Rincevent 1d ago
From the picture, I think it's there : 63.654818856699045, 11.09449435582187
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u/Upstairs_Secret_8473 1d ago
Sinkhole? No, It was a quick-clay avalanche
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u/shartmaister 1d ago
Avalanche? No. There's no snow now. It's a quick clay landslide.
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u/adm_Von_Schneider 18h ago
In clickbaitish, which this text seems to be written in, I guess “quick clay landslide” would actually be translated to sinkhole.
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u/mnaylor375 1d ago
Want to see a very dramatic example of a landslide?
https://tv.vg.no/nyheter/raset-i-alta-her-forsvinner-husene-i-havet?id=197861
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u/stettix 1d ago
Holy crap
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u/Arbitraryandunique 1d ago
Fortunately nobody was at home for that one. A dog was caught in it and swam ashore and was later rescued by helicopter because it was still in the dangerous area and couldn't get out.
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u/Optimal-Factor-8564 14h ago
The dog rescue is in the next video after the one mnaylor375 posted
Poor pup !! He understood wven despite the awful helicopter noise and wind that that was his way to safety !!
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u/Steffalompen 15h ago
Those houses laugh at natural disasters. "Hah! Bring it on! We're built for a 2m snowload!"
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u/Josutg22 1d ago
Clayslides Are fucking terrifying. Basically the clay soil can get saturated with water and turn into quick-clay (cousin of quicksand) when disturbed. In effect the soil beneath your feet liquifies, and it can spread over absolutely huge areas
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u/Kittelsen 1d ago
Quick clay is marine clay that has had its salts washed away over millenia. If disturbed it liquifies, it's already quick clay, nothing to do with water saturation.
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u/larsga 1d ago
Quickclay is extremely weird. You can put a lump of solid clay into a bowl, stir it with a spoon, and then pour it out as if it were oil. It's held together by the clay particles, but those are vulnerable and collapse like a house of cards (the structure actually looks rather like one) if disturbed. Here's a video showing it.
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u/surfema 1d ago
That is true, however higher water saturation will destabilize the quick clay even further (therefore slide typically occur after periods of heavy rain or snow melting)
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u/Fair-Explorer4450 16h ago
Not (more),saturation per se since that takes lots of time. But water = load on the active side and = eroding force + uplifting pore water pressure on the passive side.
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u/Poly_and_RA 1d ago
This isn't a sink-hole but quick clay. A type of clay that can under certain circumstances behave like a liquid when disturbed. Here it was disturbed by ongoing construction-work, and the dead person was working at the construction-site.
We have this kinda clay in some parts of Norway, especially inland. Some might remember the 2020 Gjerdrum-landslide where 10 died and several homes were destroyed. Same kinda clay.
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u/Fair-Explorer4450 15h ago
Judging from the photos, it appears that installation of lime-cement columns triggered the landslide. You can see the slurry containers floating in the middle of it. For other readers:
Its a tragic irony. Its a great method for stabilizing the soil in the long term but, if not proper precaution is not taken, destabilizes the soil temporarily.
How it works: Lime and cement is stirred into the soil under high pressure, disturbing it and raising water pressures in the ground. Around the column, the soil practically loses all its strength. With time, the columns react with water in the ground, making them harden, like concrete, increasing strength significantly.
If several columns are installed in quick succession, with no time given to harden or adapting the installation order to avoid larger weak zones, it poses a serious risk for landslides. Especially if installed by the foot of a slope, which seems to be the case here.
I dont want to make any hasty conclusions, but this seems fairly obvious. Its becoming too common for LC column installation to trigger landslides. Not the first time and not the last.
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u/Slugghy 1d ago
This happened really close to where I live and when I heard the news I got kinda scared since I knew my friends were out driving. Rest in piece to the one we lost
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u/that_norwegian_guy 1d ago
Rest in piece
I think you mean "rest in peace"
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u/sjopolsa 1d ago
Maybe he actually meant "(one) piece", as in hoping the massive forces of the landslide didn't decapitate the person or ripped off a limb or two.
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u/L4r5man 1d ago
Nature is a cruel mistress.
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u/VctrG 1d ago
Cruel? That's not even close punishment for what humanity has done to the planet. Just a beginning.
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u/PizzaWithMincedMeat 1d ago
Yes I'm sure the (probably) older person living in that house is responsible for the garbage island outside the US
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u/Ahvier 1d ago
So who are you blaming for things? Companies? The state? Equinor? The pension fund? The US? The countries that buy norwegian oil and gas?
Imo it's not about blame in general, but taking responsibility and changing things - on a societal and individual level
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u/PizzaWithMincedMeat 1d ago
That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying someone, an ordinary person, lost their life and someone lost their home, it's not the time for blaming yet
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u/Funtinne 1d ago
yeah, but why Norway? When we have been trying our best to fix this, so why punish us
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u/Quecksilber033 1d ago
What’s going on with all these insensitive “funny” comments? Bots? People who have no hearts? A completely innocent and unsuspecting person fell victim to a natural disaster, their family and friends are devastated. Go be an asshole somewhere else.
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u/JRS_Viking 1d ago edited 1d ago
Why tf do they measure 500km from Oslo of all things when it's only 70km north of Trondheim?
Edit: was wrong about it being north of Steinkjer, thought i recognised the place but was wrong
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u/xJuaaNzZ 1d ago
You mean north of Stjørdal / south of Steinkjer
Edit: and yes, it’s in Levanger kommune. Between Åsen and Skogn.
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u/squadoodles 1d ago
Uh no, it is much closer to Levanger than Steinkjer. It's south of Levanger, even.
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u/King_Tiller 1d ago
they also say it's near levanger when it's clearly not, it's north of Steinkjer
Are you joking?
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u/redditreader1972 1d ago
Because 500km north of Oslo is much more informative for non-Norwegians, than "this far from Trondheim" or "this far from someotherplacenoonehasheardabout".
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u/RobMillsyMills 1d ago
If anyone that would be mildly interested in this story does not know where Trondheim is then they likely wouldn't be interested in the story anyway. Also google maps.......
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u/-Ekky 1d ago
Norwegian soil is very new from the ice age and is all held together by salt molecules. If one puts to much weight it will push out the salt molecules and it will turn into liquid. Many videos out there where you see buildings just starts floating out to the sea because someone either built to much weight on one place or removed to much mass from one place weakening the surrounding areas ability to hold the weight placed untop of it. its a constant issue they always have to consider when building roads of buildings anywhere in norway, especially close to a water source
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u/Mysterious-Dirt-8841 1d ago
Salt is absolutely not pushed out by weight on top, but rather flushed out by water and ground loose rigidity
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u/-Ekky 1d ago
You’re right some words got lost in my attempt of Norwegian to English transelation — the salt has already been leached out by groundwater long before building. What remains is a fragile clay structure that can look stable, but extra weight or excavation can trigger it to collapse and behave like liquid. So it’s not the weight pushing salt out, but weight can definitely accelerate the failure of already weakened ground.
But i must add that i have seen what i mentioned earlier happen.
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u/Mysterious-Dirt-8841 1d ago
On one of the photos it looks like it all happened around house, wondering about water outflow, we hoomans use a lot of water without even noticing. Car washing, plant watering and who knows where goes brown water form that house. Where go Pavement and roof drainage water?
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u/-Ekky 23h ago
and one may have an unusuall high rainfall one season. There are drainage here and there but sometimes it cant catch it all or an alteration to the system may have taken place somewhere else. Many factors that may play into this indeed
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u/Mysterious-Dirt-8841 22h ago
Agree, on top off all you said, we're talking about years of soaking, decades maybe.
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u/Fair-Explorer4450 16h ago
Most likely started by the construction works. But the quick clay extended up to the area close to the house.
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u/FineMaize5778 1d ago
Not all the soil. Its in spesific places. Where i live now there isnt even clay
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u/President0fEarth 1d ago
Landslides are basically our tornados, it’s tragic when it takes lives like this, but they happen here from time to time.
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u/Madam_Hel 1d ago
Yeah, not like they were not warned multiple times about the unsafe ground and kept coming back to work on roads (it was supposed to be a 4 lane motorway, but they made it 2 because of the kind of clay it’s on) This time it was railroad work, that they were also warned about by the people who live on the farm right next to the site. Effing infuriating that they play with peoples lives like that. That man died because of ignoring known facts about the land. I hope his family sues the railroad companies braids off.
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u/Scobo82 1d ago
I will have to pass that area today. Does anyone know if there are any detours in place already?
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u/ThorAlex87 1d ago
There are a couple local detours, but long haul drivers are recommended to go trough Sweden or take the Flakk ferry and go the other side of the fjord. It was chaos yesterday, hopefully things settle a bit. https://www.vegvesen.no/trafikk has up to date info.
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u/Helpful-Cherry8567 1d ago
Perhaps vibrations from work on the railway line triggered it. Turning saturated clay into quick clay...
Purely speculation of course. Sad news whatever the cause.
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u/Jackstract 1d ago
Are those rails on the second "lane" from the left? Imagine if there was a train approaching
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u/Puzzleheaded_Ad3848 1d ago
The guy in the Red house told them the ground was very unstable, but they didn't care when they began diggin and gravin.
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u/larsga 1d ago
They knew there was quickclay. The work they were doing was supposed to stabilize the ground.
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u/MalortCoffee 1d ago
I wonder if they will manage to Fix this in less than 6 months.
They first have to evaluate and assess, that probably takes a couple of months.
Then they probably need to put out a tender (anbud). And that will probably also take a couple of months.
When All that is done and someone has been selected to fix this, it will probably take another couple of months up to half a year...
So yeah, I would be very surprised if this is fixed In less than 6 months....
The Norwegian way, expensive and slowly... 🫣🤪
Of course it could have been fixed in a couple of weeks, if they quit doing this stupid tender shit, and just made the old Vegvesenet and made pre made contacts with contractors to quick fix things. But that would be far too rational... 🫣
Also maybe they just need to make a whole new railway line and road, and then we're talking a couple of years, maybe 3-4 years...
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u/GrautOla 1d ago
And as always when shit like this happens the locals have been warning the powers that be for years and nothing was done.
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u/Gold_Reality_6758 1d ago
I opened NRK just as they reported that, I was really terrified since I wanted to get a land near a river in future but I feel like it's worth rethinking that
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u/Gompedyret 20h ago
What? That doesn't make sense. Even in Norway, quick clay is relatively rare. Most areas around rivers, lakes and the sea are absolutely safe to build and live on.
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u/Frankieo1920 16h ago
I'm guessing that what happened here is slow erosion of the sediment beneath the road and railway, caused by the river/lake gradually increasing its water mass over time.
Everything on the surface would have looked fine, but underneath it all, the ground would have slowly gotten softer and softer from the increase of water and moisture.
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u/Kato1985Swe 6h ago
This is unfortunately quite typical when you have muddy ground (quick clay), water next by and performing some kind of groundwork (digging, replacement of tracks or road etc.)
A similar landslide happened not far from this place back in 1978, and was well documented: https://youtu.be/3q-qfNlEP4A?si=fHoU6R1i-XuC6A8t
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u/Sleep_Sex_Eat_Repeat 5h ago
This is actually E6 (European highway 6), a danish tourist was tragically killed here….
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u/svolvo 5h ago
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3q-qfNlEP4A Unsure what you're seeing here? It's really quite common in many areas of Norway. Here's an excellent English language documentary produced in Norway about the 1978 Rissa quick clay landslide, about 2 hours drive from where this little landslide happened. You can see the landslide actually happening over an enormous area.
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u/selvestenisse 1d ago
Flooding seasons in Norway, gonna come as a suprise to everyone living next to water bodies this year also.
Article from a news paper say that the people living ther have tried to warn local autoriy about it, but at the same time they keep living there. Same as other houses that live in flood areas are gonna keep living there and ask for help when the flood happends.
there is a solutiuon and its not living right next to the water.
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u/FineMaize5778 1d ago
They refuse to learn how to check the ground. Or they refuse to admit that they really dont know enough about "kvikkleire" to mess with it.
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u/Vixenmeja 1d ago
They were working on reinforcement when this happened.
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u/FineMaize5778 1d ago
Yeah so they dont know what tf they are doing and dont wanna be open about it. Else the road would have been closed at the very least
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u/Professor_Kruglov 1d ago
But they do mess with is..? That's why we continue to build on it....
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u/FineMaize5778 1d ago
Yes that is what i said.... they dont know enough to mess with it. They fucking obviously do mess with it because as the picture shows they built a bloody great motorway on it! Ffs
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u/Pentti1 1d ago
That's not a motorway.
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u/Las-Vegar 1d ago
Motortrafikkvei or Two-lane expressway
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u/Pentti1 1d ago
Yes something like that. A motorway has at least two lanes on both sides.
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u/Pinewoodgreen 1d ago
the original plan was to build a 4 way motorway, but due to the quick clay in the area they where reccomended to not do that. and so they only buildt 2ways. Which is why it's odd they also decided to do extra railroad work in that area.
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u/Hawkhill_no 1d ago
Strait Times need to get this straight.
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u/DecemberHouse 1d ago
Was the article wrong?
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u/JRS_Viking 1d ago
Yeah its a clay landslide and not a sinkhole, big difference, there's rarely sinkholes in Norway but clay landslides are more common
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u/fareedadahlmaaldasi 1d ago
I'm confused as to why there were no geologists or even geotech engineers that told them that it is a bad idea to build on top of clays (if it is actually clay). Given that it almost always fucking rains in Norway (and also snow), clay will obvi give.
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u/kaijoar 1d ago
When huge parts of Trøndelag and Østlandet are clay, where would you build the road?
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u/fareedadahlmaaldasi 1d ago
Did they do reinforcements at least?
I don't know the whole geology of that area and I never claimed so much so but if there's one thing, I wouldn't build it so close to that body of water.
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u/kaijoar 1d ago
They were actually working on reinforcing the area when this happened.
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u/fareedadahlmaaldasi 1d ago
I meant, before the building of the railway and/or road in this particular area. The earliest study about expansive clays re: swelling especially after flooding or fluid retention during raining is in the 2000s. I was asking about that, not reinforcements now that the road is built.
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u/kaijoar 1d ago
The railway was built 85-100 years ago, and the road has been in place for just as long (although it has been upgraded since). At that time we didn't know much about the risk, the first modern landslide that raised awareness about quick clay was in the seventies (Rissa-skredet). So there were probably no reinforcements during the initial building of the road. Later upgrades of the road has had limitations because of quick clay in the area.
There was plans for upgrades of the rail line in this area, and the work being done right as this happened (which probably was the triggering cause for the slide) was reinforcements for the railroad in preparation for this.
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u/fareedadahlmaaldasi 1d ago
Oh, then that makes sense.
At this point, I think the best solution is to find another place to build or connect the roads and railroad, perhaps behind that house in the picture, then treat and reinforce the clay before building something on top. Is there any possibility of doing this?
It being close to the water body as well doesn't really help. Drainage goes there so the clay kinda goes in that direction too, hence the 'slide'.
Just curious, btw.
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u/Braugech 14h ago
sadly, not many other areas in the area to actually build in, unless you want to up end and start a multimillion project. cuz there will most likely be quick-clay in that entire surrounding area, it just happens that was the weakest area,
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u/PM_ME_SAND_PAPER 20h ago
In the middle of a field? Farmers will get their panties in the world's biggest twist if you try and mess with their fertile soil.
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u/larsga 1d ago
They knew. They were working to stabilize the soil before starting work on the railway.
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u/fareedadahlmaaldasi 1d ago
Stabilization BEFORE the road and trail were built. That's what I meant.
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u/starkicker18 1d ago
Copying my reply elsewhere, but this is good to have at the top of the page for anyone who might be driving this route
The local paper (behind a paywall) has reported that statens vegvesen has suggested two routes: take the 755 from Straumen over and drive via Fosen to the ferry at Rørvik (smaller cars and transport); or detour via Sweden 72 - 322- E14 (heavy trucks/heavier vehicles).
Note: anyone taking the Sweden route -- make sure you have all your papers etc.. in order before you exit and try to re-enter Norway. This includes goods, animals, etc...
Local residents recommend that northbound traffic take the Fv6854 (gamle kongevei) and southbound traffic take 753 via Frosta, but these are not official routes recommended by vegvesen, it's literally just two dudes on a tractor who live in the area who suggested it to the paper.