r/PS4 • u/cristi1990an cristi1990anRO • Sep 01 '18

[Video] [Video] BioWare Makes Fun of Marvel's Spider-Man's "PuddleGate" Controversy

https://youtu.be/yQph-_imtDY
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u/yesahd Sep 01 '18

Wait. There’s a controversy surrounding puddles in Spider-Man? Glad this news missed me

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u/NOBLExGAMER Sep 02 '18

This what people are up in arms about. There is a very obvious difference between the two photos regardless of the puddles.

This image also came out showing there was less detail in some animations than previously showed, again there is a pretty obvious difference between the two.

Insomniac and it's employees have stated there was no downgrade and that it was just a lighting change and a removal of a puddle.

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u/alsomdude2 Sep 02 '18

The game looks fucking great my god you people are annoying and no wonder game devs hate the community.

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u/DiamondPup Sep 02 '18 edited Sep 02 '18

The game looks fantastic. But pretending there's no difference is just stupid.

The whole problem here isn't the downgrade, the problem is the community manager started replying to trolls saying there was no difference.

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u/CollinHoffman21 Sep 02 '18

Almost like E3 trailers are meant to sell the game and are run on PC's at the time.........

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u/DiamondPup Sep 02 '18

Sure. But then say as much or don't say anything. Why lie about something so obvious?

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u/CollinHoffman21 Sep 02 '18

I agree its shitty. But companys have been doing this for years. We should know this by now and not get caught up in the hype.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

When was the first time you learned about this?

Now take a second and realize that with each passing E3, there is a new generation of people learning this as they get into gaming.

Just because you know algebra doesn't mean everyone does.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18 edited Dec 24 '18

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u/Rocky323 Sep 02 '18

Except there isnt a downgrade, as has been stated many fucking times.

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u/infected_elf135 Sep 02 '18

Yes. VERY annoying.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18 edited Aug 25 '19

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u/CageAndBale Sep 02 '18

Objectively wrong

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18 edited Aug 25 '19

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u/CageAndBale Sep 02 '18

I tend to disagree, the new shots look so desaturated and bland that it looks very messy and basic.

I also agree, I usually never buy single player games first year. I'll wait for the barging bin complete edition.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18 edited Aug 25 '19

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u/CageAndBale Sep 02 '18

I don't do Nintendo but they don't give eyou a choice unless it's a used copy so might as well.

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u/Cressio Sep 02 '18

I have no horses in this race but that is a drastic downgrade. Like beyond night and day. Why is there such a backlash against people being upset the one time they’re actually right lmao

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Why? Because fanboys and this culture that thinks devs never lie. Just like when Bungie swore they didn't cut content for Destiny DLC and Kotaku found out it was a lie.

The anti-concern people must be from that RetardEra forum.

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u/Cressio Sep 02 '18

First of all, it is. Second of all, why you so mad? Lol. It’s not a big deal

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u/loluz loluz_9619 Sep 02 '18

Fanboys gotta fanboy

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u/Gaarando Sep 02 '18

Because it's not a drastic downgrade the way you're claiming. He's pointing out that the Division was a drastic downgrade, which is true. You're simply using it wrong.

And I'm not even gonna buy Spider-Man 'cause the gameplay didn't look that fun. Seemed you do a lot of the same moves. Which is fine, but not my thing.

People have shown other footage where the game still looks pretty much the same. Lighting does a lot to help graphics. A lot of people in this thread are making up stuff from a couple of screenshots only. Instead of actually showing the same places with similar lighting.

No doubt in my mind that when people start making actual comparison videos that it's gonna look pretty much the same.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

The game no longer has reflective surfaces.

That’s a pretty big deal in a superhero game where you will be swinging from building to building

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u/Gaarando Sep 02 '18

Says who? Show me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

That’s what the controversy is about...

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u/PraiseTheSun1997 Sep 02 '18

It has nothing to do with reflective surfaces. It still has those.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Says who? Show me.

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u/yomamaisonfier yomamaisonfier Sep 02 '18

How DARE people be upset that a VIDEO GAME looks different than when it was showcased! Especially after the likes of companies like ubisoft, who are notorious for this kind of behavior.

Jokes aside, the so called "hate" for it is well overestablished. People are not as "up in arms" as some are making it out to be. However, there is very obvious downgrades to the visual fidelity of what they've shown. Sure, it's not Ubisoft levels of fuckery, but it IS there.

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u/alsomdude2 Sep 02 '18

But the game looks incredible still if anything spider man looking all glossy looks shittier.

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u/yomamaisonfier yomamaisonfier Sep 02 '18

Irrelevant. Watch Dogs 1 at E3 and Watch Dogs 1 at launch, both on their own, look "incredible" for the time. However seeing as they're both supposed to be the same game, it's ridiculous how much it's different. No one is saying the game DOESN'T look good. People are simply saying it looks downgraded, even if ever so slightly. And there's nothing wrong with making sure companies give what is promised at launch. This is something we've been lacking the past few years.

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u/alsomdude2 Sep 02 '18

No one is talking about that shit game why bring it up? They aren't even made by the same dev sorry but insomniac makes great games and they've never done anything like EA or ubisoft plus it's a playstation exclusive I think anyone bitching about this dumb shit doesn't have a ps4 and is just butthurt because they cant play it.

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u/yomamaisonfier yomamaisonfier Sep 02 '18

You are incredibly ignorant and are the reason console users get such flak. Jesus christ.

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u/notrealmate rowblot Sep 02 '18

Then vote with your wallet and don’t buy it.

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u/yomamaisonfier yomamaisonfier Sep 02 '18

If I could facepalm harder....

People really don't understand the point being made...

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u/georgenooryblows Sep 02 '18

THEN JUST DON'T BUY IT DUMMY!!!

Seriously though, why can't we acknowledge there is graphical difference and have a discussion about it? Most of the outrage I'm seeing is directed towards people just trying to talk about it.

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u/yomamaisonfier yomamaisonfier Sep 02 '18

Exactly. The post I saw about it was just people talking about the differences (which is very clearly more than just some puddles disappearing, but that was the easiest thing to notice). Suddenly it's "OMG PEOPLE ARE FURIOUS ABOUT LESS PUDDLES" And the reaction to that is "don't buy it"? What the actual hell lol

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u/Gaarando Sep 02 '18

Because there is no proper proof there is a graphical difference as other people have showed differences to where current actually looks better graphically.

Instead of going off of a couple screenshots with different lighting maybe wait for a proper comparison between E3 footage and new. Going off of screenshots with lighting differences is not smart.

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u/cannablubber Sep 02 '18

Damn none of the replies to you agree but I just want you to know I think it’s annoying too.

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u/NOBLExGAMER Sep 02 '18

I'm sorry you're right, it was rude of me to use my eyes notice a difference between what Insomniac showed us and what they gave us and get slightly upset about that. Again excuse my rudeness.