r/PS4 • u/cristi1990an cristi1990anRO • Sep 01 '18

[Video] [Video] BioWare Makes Fun of Marvel's Spider-Man's "PuddleGate" Controversy

https://youtu.be/yQph-_imtDY
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u/DudeLongcouch subsy Sep 02 '18 edited Sep 02 '18

This is you not understanding how game development works. When a game is in progress, developers throw every affect they can at it to make it as beautiful as they can. They aim for the ideal. Then, when the game is content finished and being scaled for performance, they remove things until they can hit the performance they need; wherever that line is.

It's not a lie, it's a "this is how we hope the final game will look but it will probably change by necessity before we're done." It's a reality of development. Some people need to stop being such whiny, crybaby bitches about it. Don't base your opinion of a final release on a 6 month old trailer. There is no shortage of footage of any given game for you to look at during launch and see what the final product is.

Hey downvoters, try to refute a single thing I said. Try to have an argument instead of just butthurt downvoting and moving on. You can't, because you're being ignorant, whiny morons and you're wrong. When people talk about gamers being gigantic manbabies, this is what they're talking about.

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u/WindiWindi Sep 02 '18

And people wonder why cyberpunk 2077 was shown behind closed doors and wasn't released publicly if it were not from the overwhelmingly positive reception. I feel so bad that anything they do is combed over with a fine tooth comb it's ridiculous because you aren't going to sit there and just stare at half this stuff. People need to stop with this crap and temper their expectations. It's honestly pretty embarrassing making huge deals around what people really want which is optimizing the game so it can actually run. It happened with God of War and if anyone says that that is an ugly game they're crazy. Sure it doesn't look as nice but that didn't stop it from being one of the best selling games ever for Playstation. Because guess what it's not just about eye candy. The motion capture and performances from the actors. The art direction story and music. So many things AND PEOPLE came together to make it happen and you want to focus on some trees and a deer looking a bit worse when you shove your camera like 2 inches from it? Get over it. Look at all the garbage that is on steam. It takes more than some nice assets to make a good game.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

It's kinda like why every single thing thats shown before a game comes out includes a tag saying this is alpha footage and subject to change. It's also pretty funny that people seem to think they went through the trouble of adding real time reflections only for a trailer so they could remove them later on, like it was some diabolical plot to waste a lot of dev time on something no one noticed

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u/a0me a0me-ps Sep 02 '18

I agree with what you said but we know that the majority of pre-release footage for AAA titles is captured using purpose built vertical slice builds of the game running on hardware that’s more powerful than retail units. It’s just part of game marketing, and it does “waste” a lot of dev time.
The real question is why are so many people still basing their purchase decision on what amount to little more than cleverly crafted ads.

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u/Eddyoshi Eddyoshi4 Sep 02 '18

Um...you do know that alot of trailers shown at E3 are made specifically just for that E3 even and not representative of the final game. Like Portal 2, and Scalebound, and FF7 Remake, and God of War?

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u/blacklightnings Sep 02 '18

I think that was also a point of contention. Because if you watch the 2017 trailer it doesn't state that this is an early build or alpha of the sort. Regardless people really shouldn't be losing their shit about something like this.

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u/melancious Sep 02 '18

Please take my upvote. I'm so tired of internet drama.

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u/Trelga Sep 02 '18

Might as well quit looking at gaming subs then, I basically have. Gamers look for any little thing to complain about. This is not false advertising. Anyone who has ever played video games knows games don't look exactly like gameplay trailers. Gameplay trailers are perfect replicas of the game. Really the gaming culture is just getting ridiculous.

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u/agamemnon2 Sep 02 '18

And yet, here you are.

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u/Trelga Sep 02 '18

And yet I said I basically had... not that I had completely

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u/blackfootsteps Sep 02 '18

Then, when the game is content finished and being scaled for performance, they remove things until they can hit the performance they need; wherever that line is.

That must really hurt for those devs who have slaved away working on those systems / effects. Imagine being the people who've worked on the reflections for months, and then it gets scrapped.

I wonder if they keep that stuff somewhere for the next gen version (if applicable).

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

they remove things until they can hit the performance they need

I think what you said it's true, but when they finish the ideal. The next step is optimizing the code, assets, etc. If that doesn't work then they remove things until they can hit the performance they need.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

When a game is in progress, developers throw every affect they can at it to make it as beautiful as they can. They aim for the ideal. Then, when the game is content finished and being scaled for performance, they remove things until they can hit the performance they need; wherever that line is.

It's not a lie, it's a "this is how we hope the final game will look but it will probably change by necessity before we're done."

Well, which is it? If the companies know the games won't look like the trailers (they do), isn't that just tricking people into buying a product? Do the companies not have a responsibility to try to accurately represent the product they're selling in their advertisements for that product?

You can't, because you're being ignorant, whiny morons and you're wrong

It's probably that you come off as an unlikable cunt with your head up your ass and I'm the only person that hates themself enough to argue with you.