r/PS4 • u/cristi1990an cristi1990anRO • Sep 01 '18

[Video] [Video] BioWare Makes Fun of Marvel's Spider-Man's "PuddleGate" Controversy

https://youtu.be/yQph-_imtDY
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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Wow that is accurate

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

No it isn't. Why do people always forget the good parts when it's convienent for them?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Why do people always forget the good parts when it's convienent for them?

What do I have to gain from such a simple statement? The guy is speaking the truth I've seen those things for myself. And I've been directly affected. It's no lie the community can be toxic at times.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

What do I have to gain from such a simple statement?

Reputation? Nuance? Not throwing yourself into the same pit as the actual demons?

It's no lie the community can be toxic at times

I'm not denying that. I AM denying that it's so rampant as to pretend gaming is 99% toxic like we're back in some 80's movie. Yes I have experienced it too. No not everyday, nor am I shaking in my boots in fear over that toxic element.

Look, we as a culture are not in a good state right now. Apparently video games are now a specific, clinical addiction, we had a shooting that's gonna bring the whole guns political BS back in the media, and there's tons of "nerd culture" personalities being accused of misconduct. And ofc the medium is still struggling to be recognized as "art". Promoting things like this as if it is not just the norm, but the majority and an everyday occurrence is the last thing we need atm. We have enough people who don't understand the culture looking in with confused and disgusted eyes. Let's not do it to each other too and show that there are good actors and they are the norm. We can condemn the bad while not making it seem like we're also bad, y'know?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Reputation? Nuance? Not throwing yourself into the same pit as the actual demons?

My comment has a downvote, I'm not getting any reputation. It's the dang internet no one knows me or my face so I can't possible gain anonymous reputation it adds nothing

I'm not denying that

Then why are we arguing, we are on the same page!

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Same page different spectrum. Theres a huge difference between "there's toxicity in the culture" and "the culture is toxic". One recognizes bad actors, the other assumes bad actors are the norm. Nuance. It may not be as bad as stereotyping a race or gender, but it's still something we should avoid.

Btw. I think you reposted... 3 times?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Theres a huge difference between "there's toxicity in the culture" and "the culture is toxic".

Again we are on the same page, my comment said there is toxicity in the culture. I never said that it everyone is 10000% toxic. That's like saying entirety of humanity is evil because of terrorists and criminals.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Guess I may have been confused given the comment you replied to.

That's like saying entirety of humanity is evil because of terrorists and criminals.

Atm it's a subtly we kinda need. Kinda like how a statement as benign as "women, amirite?" obviously doesn't include all women but is still seen as rude given the historical context behind it.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

No problem

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Uhh, okay. Seems like my words just went out one eye but whatever. I just wanted to try and explain my stance in all this. But I just gotta realize I'm a stupid internet handle at times like these and have no real influence or charisma.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

It's okay it happens

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Y'know we're not texting each other, right? I don't expect a "K" answer if you really aren't reading my comments. Just don't respond.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18 edited Sep 02 '18

I'm Sorry, what have I done?

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

It just feels like your answers are not really responding to the comment (generic answers like "okay" or "I understand" or "I agree"). this is usually used in texting when you want to end a conversation; you make shorter responses with less context to respond to with bare minimum effort. It sucks (I'd rather just have them say "I have to go") in texting too but I have to meet those people IRL so I just go along with it.

You don't really have to do that on the internet. If you're done with a conversation for whatever reason, you can simply not respond. It's not rude like in text messages where you are half expected to answer. Quite the opposite; some people may interpret it as you ignoring their comment but wanting to respond anyway to provoke them. 99% of the time, a person won't continue an argument on the internet when they don't get a response, and they move elsewhere. They implicitly understand; they don't know the person, neither are owed an audience, and RL stuff comes up.

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

Well forgive me I really don't know how to respond to your comment. I thought I'd just be polite. I literally thought that was you last comment, so I was like (it's no problem, it's fine no hard feelings)

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u/[deleted] Sep 02 '18

fair enough. sorry if I seemed aggressive.

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