[Video] BioWare Makes Fun of Marvel's Spider-Man's "PuddleGate" Controversy

[u/cristi1990an]

https://youtu.be/yQph-_imtDY

[u/falconbox]

EXACTLY. I don't necessarily care that much, since I've seen far worse downgrades (Dark Souls 2 for example), and the gameplay still looks great to me, but people are in denial or something.

Here's a different scene that shows it better IMO. Someone tell me with a straight face that this 2018 scene looks better than what we saw in 2016:

https://gfycat.com/FairWeeklyDodo

[u/Gaarando → u/falconbox]

Different lighting. The 2018 footage is like mid-day where there's not a lot of sun going on. In the 2016 footage it seems like later in the day, sun is soon about to go down.

That's why the lighting on the suit is so different as well.

Surprised that the 2018 building on the right is changed though. Seems like a strange change to make but maybe they really wanted some variety but outside of that I can't see the downgrade. I can see the difference in lighting though.

Someone can come here and show comparisons in GTA V for example of the same exact place but different lighting and trust me one picture is gonna look worse depending on what lighting you prefer.

[u/jordanlund → u/Gaarando]

Different lighting blurs the background and removes almost all vehicles from the street? Who's running the lights? Thanos? LOL.

"Hey, maybe if we replace the traffic with a couple of birds nobody will notice! High five! We'll blame the lighting!"

[u/PraiseTheSun1997 → u/jordanlund]

Traffic is still in the game. Just because it's not showcased in that particular scene doesn't mean it's just been removed.

[u/jordanlund → u/PraiseTheSun1997]

This is an example of what they sold vs. what they delivered. If they changed this, what else did they change?

[u/PraiseTheSun1997 → u/jordanlund]

Changed what? The traffic is still in the game. You do know that cars move right?

[u/jordanlund → u/PraiseTheSun1997]

Not in the 2018 shot they don't. They have to be present to move.

You have a street arrangement like this:

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In the E3 shot, the | street is populated with moving cars, you can see them filling the block with a truck at the next intersection down. In the 2018 shot it's barren, blurred and covered with some flying birds.

The traffic on the \ street is stopped at a stoplight because | is in motion. Multiple lanes of cars waiting to go changes to a couple of cars parked by the curb.

It's a pretty severe dumbing down of objects and complexity and saying "well, the lighting changed" doesn't explain it.

[u/PraiseTheSun1997 → u/jordanlund]

LMAO no they don't.

The cars aren't there because they are moving elsewhere on the map. It's called a dynamic world. The streets are still populated with moving cars. Stop nitpicking already. You look pathetic

[u/jordanlund → u/PraiseTheSun1997]

It's the exact same scripted backflip from the exact same angle, this is not an example of how detailed the traffic patterns are.

[u/PraiseTheSun1997 → u/jordanlund]

And since the world is dynamic, the amount of traffic in that instance will change.

[u/jordanlund → u/PraiseTheSun1997]

This shot is scripted, it's not "in world". You don't get a human being, in game, making the exact same jump with the exact same timing and the exact same angle twice.

But I tell you what, prove me wrong. When the game comes out find that building and post a shot of the street full of traffic. Hell, you don't even have to do the backflip.

[u/PraiseTheSun1997 → u/jordanlund]

You absolutely can. And a scripted scene can still be "in world"

Why does it need to be that street? The game has traffic. There are plenty of videos that showcase this so why are you being in denial?

[u/jordanlund → u/PraiseTheSun1997]

Because that street is the one that was changed. If you're going to argue it's a simple issue of a traffic pattern then you should be able to duplicate it.