r/PS4 • u/cristi1990an cristi1990anRO • Sep 01 '18

[Video] [Video] BioWare Makes Fun of Marvel's Spider-Man's "PuddleGate" Controversy

https://youtu.be/yQph-_imtDY
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u/PraiseTheSun1997 Sep 02 '18

Changed what? The traffic is still in the game. You do know that cars move right?

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u/jordanlund GlobalPhreak Sep 02 '18

Not in the 2018 shot they don't. They have to be present to move.

You have a street arrangement like this:

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In the E3 shot, the | street is populated with moving cars, you can see them filling the block with a truck at the next intersection down. In the 2018 shot it's barren, blurred and covered with some flying birds.

The traffic on the \ street is stopped at a stoplight because | is in motion. Multiple lanes of cars waiting to go changes to a couple of cars parked by the curb.

It's a pretty severe dumbing down of objects and complexity and saying "well, the lighting changed" doesn't explain it.

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u/PraiseTheSun1997 Sep 02 '18 edited Sep 02 '18

LMAO no they don't.

The cars aren't there because they are moving elsewhere on the map. It's called a dynamic world. The streets are still populated with moving cars. Stop nitpicking already. You look pathetic

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u/jordanlund GlobalPhreak Sep 02 '18

It's the exact same scripted backflip from the exact same angle, this is not an example of how detailed the traffic patterns are.

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u/PraiseTheSun1997 Sep 02 '18

And since the world is dynamic, the amount of traffic in that instance will change.

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u/jordanlund GlobalPhreak Sep 02 '18

This shot is scripted, it's not "in world". You don't get a human being, in game, making the exact same jump with the exact same timing and the exact same angle twice.

But I tell you what, prove me wrong. When the game comes out find that building and post a shot of the street full of traffic. Hell, you don't even have to do the backflip.

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u/PraiseTheSun1997 Sep 02 '18 edited Sep 02 '18

You absolutely can. And a scripted scene can still be "in world"

Why does it need to be that street? The game has traffic. There are plenty of videos that showcase this so why are you being in denial?

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u/jordanlund GlobalPhreak Sep 02 '18

Because that street is the one that was changed. If you're going to argue it's a simple issue of a traffic pattern then you should be able to duplicate it.

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u/PraiseTheSun1997 Sep 02 '18 edited Sep 02 '18

Why would I need to duplicate it? It's dynamic. You can already see this in previous videos. What part of that do you not get?

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u/jordanlund GlobalPhreak Sep 02 '18

If you're going to argue is just the traffic then you should be able to repeat the image.

My argument is they reduced the number of objects in game and so it's not repeatable.

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u/[deleted] Sep 03 '18

If you're going to argue is just the traffic then you should be able to repeat the image.

LOL from this comment and others you clearly seem like an utter idiot. Do you know it'll be almost impossible to recreate this exact shot with a dynamic open world right? Christ you're fucking stupid.

My argument is they reduced the number of objects in game and so it's not repeatable

Except you're an idiot who's deceptively (or stupidly) only looking at or showing that one clip with less traffic when in fact there are other clips which still show car and citizen density. Just like how claimed puddle reflections are gone when they're not.

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u/PraiseTheSun1997 Sep 04 '18

https://www.eurogamer.net/articles/digitalfoundry-2018-marvels-spider-man-debunking-the-downgrade

Eat crow

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u/jordanlund GlobalPhreak Sep 04 '18

So it should be even easier for you to duplicate the shot, it's cool. I know it just came out today, I can wait.

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