r/Paramedics Jun 21 '25

US Overruling captain!

Just getting opinions here. Other night we had a well known psych patient who’s not only know to verbally accost medics/hospital staff, but can get aggressive. Delt with her multiple times where our local PD had her cuffed, hands on a taser. On scene for the THIRD time that week same patient, different captain (not mine, was working OT) and I told this captain “we’re going to need PD” Captain replied back “THIS IS NOT A PD ISSUE” very loud and aggressively I might add. I stated “she can get aggressive” he replied back “SHES NOT AGGRESSIVE”and he denied calling PD. Once she was loaded on the stretcher, she started to become verbally hostile, then and only then did the captain call PD. Then I was instructed to go to my patient. She started getting verbally hostile with me. I was told to get in the engine at this point and the other medics would run the call. PD followed the medic unit to our local ER.

Now, we all learned “BSI/scene safety” right? I always thought it was a medics discretion if it came to safety. KC firefighter died over a psychiatric patient after being stabbed by her. Another psych call, patient flew out the back doors and ended up being killed by a semi truck.

Does anyone think this needs to go up the chain? I feel mine AND my crews safety was compromised by a captain with a superiority complex and this captain has been known for his temper. His behavior was unprofessional, unacceptable and unbecoming an officer.

Opinions???

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '25

Depends on the scene (MCI) and the system, but generally yes.

But again, that has nothing to do with the fact that the position is called “Captain.” If you called them a supervisor or any other fun name, they’d suck just as bad.

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u/No_Degree69420 Jun 21 '25

Don't understand why you're so caught up with the naming portion. No shit different command systems have different titles for the same role. No one is arguing they dont.

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u/[deleted] Jun 21 '25

Imagine if a nurse had a “captain.” This paramilitary stuff holds EMS back.

That’s the comment I replied to. I’m not the one hung up on a name. My comment only said the name doesn’t matter, because it doesn’t.

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u/10pcWings Jun 22 '25

Lmao this shit went over everyone's head