r/RedpilledRogan • u/Complete-Captain2211 • 22d ago
Redpilling Like Rogan Joe Rogan stunned by the inbreeding statistics among immigrants in the UK
https://rumble.com/v6xb8pa-joe-rogan-stunned-by-the-inbreeding-statistics-among-immigrants-in-the-uk.html50
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u/Lifelemons9393 22d ago
No shit. This and Halal should be illegal. It's technically still legal to marry a cousin in the UK. We tried banning it a few months ago but Pakistani MPs stopped that.
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u/Thai-Girl69 19d ago
I briefly dated a girl who was a matron on the terminal children's ward in Leicester and she told me that the majority of their patients are children of South Asians who married their cousins. I could tell that she felt guilty even just saying it out loud because she had obviously been told to not ever point this fact out to people. The UK needs to get a grip of itself and stop trying to appease literally every single culture in existence even when it defies common sense.
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u/HappyDrive1 20d ago
If you ban halal you'll have to ban kosher and that ain't happening in our government who all take donations (bribes) from the israel.
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u/GazelleForward6791 18d ago
Most Jews I know think kosher is disgusting. You’d obviously get kickback from a few hardliners, but they wouldn’t be many.
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u/actualconspiracy 18d ago
1/5 jews adhere to kosher standards, thats over 1 million Americans
"There wouldn't be many" lol
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u/Novat1993 19d ago
Politicians tend not banning stuff on a whim. It was legal because the taboo was strong enough to deter it. The very few cousin marriages were too far and too few to bother with, and some were even accidental. Its only recently become a problem since Pakistani immigrants repeatedly practice cousin marriages, which result in much more frequent defects and much more serious defects.
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u/Infamous-Cash9165 18d ago
I read somewhere that around 60% of all babies born with birth defects in the UK come from Pakistani cousin marriages
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u/Caledfrwd 19d ago
Halal is cruel. Kosher is worse
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u/BoristheDrunk 18d ago
Have you seen the processes yourself or are you just talking out of an orifice south of your mouth?
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u/Caledfrwd 18d ago
My understanding is that both requires a blessing before the animal is killed. But one doesn’t allow for the animal to be stunned before it’s killed. This has been explained to me by a butcher friend of mine. Is that incorrect?
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u/BoristheDrunk 18d ago
I don't know anything about halal. I've seen kosher slaughter of cows and sheep and chicken.
Kosher requires a blessing at the start of the work session but I'm about 90+% sure that there's no blessing for each animal.
An animal is not considered kosher unless the slaughter meets a few conditions that exist with the intent of minimizing pain to the animal.
1) the knife must be straight and razor sharp. A huge part of training to slaughter kosher involves learning to sharpen and maintain knife edges. The shochet runs a finger nail down the blade edge throughout the session because even a single tangible nick in the blade means the session must stop to fix the knife bc if that nick catches on the animal's skin it can cause unnecessary pain
2 and 3) the cutting motion must be fluid and non stop and must have no forward pressure, only back and forth, again so the sharp blade does the work and the animal is not affected by the pressure
4) the cut must cut at least 51% through the esophagus and wind pipe as well as the two arteries there in the neck, which is intended to have the animal in shock and unconscious before it even registers pain from the slaughter (i don't know how this could be reliably or ethically tested, but it certainly is fast between cut and collapse)
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u/Caledfrwd 18d ago
I was just replying to your comment, my findings are based on google searches not my friend this time.
Halal has no problem with the animal being stunned before slaughter. Stunned means being knocked out by electric prod(not nice). Or shot with a steel bolt through the head. 90% of uk halal
Kosher requires the animal is uninjured at the time of death and has its throat slit while conscious 100% of uk kosher
Which is more cruel?
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u/BoristheDrunk 18d ago
Define cruelty. Is stunning with a prod or a steel bolt to the brain more cruel than slicing the neck or less cruel? And why?
It doesn't seem appropriate to use objective tests on what is or is not cruel, because cruelty is a moral and therefore subjective topic.
To the extent that cruelty is an extension of human intention, kosher traditionally believes that the animal feels no pain, or nearly no pain, and then goes unconscious from shock - which still does not trigger a pain reflex.
If a kosher slaughterer did anything to intentionally increase pain to the animal, that alone would make the animal not kosher.
For what it's worth, I've seen a kosher operation use a bolt gun right after cutting the neck, but that's already gray areas for government compliance.
As I understand, science has a very elementary understanding of human pain, so I'm not convinced that a bolt or cattle prod is more moral or less cruel than kosher
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u/Caledfrwd 18d ago
If I punch a human they recoil in pain. If i punch a cow they recoil in pain. If i shot a bolt through a humans brain they would drop to the floor instantly. Consider both deaths for your self, bolt in the brain or bleeding out, which would you have more time to think, feel pain or panic about. I’m not preaching that killing an animal isn’t cruel no matter the method. Eating meat is a fact of life, but I think the animal should be treated well and killed as humanely as possible. If you are honest with yourself you will admit it is crueler than the alternative
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u/BoristheDrunk 18d ago
That's entirely anecdotal, as well as being an incomplete or inaccurate hypothetical.
The bleeding out is from razor sharp slicing of arteries and wind pipe esophagus. Where is the evidence that is any more painful than a shot to the brain?
I have cut myself on a very sharp knife or on paper, and there is a big cut and blood well before I feel any pain.
If you're using anecdotes, the most iconic forms of suicide you see depicted is the gun to the head and the slitting wrists with razors, both are perceived as the relatively most painless ways to die. It stands to reason that slitting a throat is in a similar category, it's the same mechanism, but just faster and harder to do properly to oneself.
It seems to me to be a huge stretch to call one fine and the other cruel.
This is a very important issue, because it represents a majority population mandating its morality on a minority population, and therefore should not be undertaken lightly.
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u/phaesios 18d ago edited 18d ago
Are you really arguing that being instantly knocked out by having your brain destroyed is equally or more painful or horrible for the animal than bleeding out (which can take several seconds)?
You're showing zero knowledge of biological functions if that's the case.
When you hunt an animal and shoot them through the lungs they die from bleeding out. But sometimes they still have time to run away, and you can see them struggling to stand up before they pass out. If I instead shoot them in the spine or the head, it's lights out instantly.
There's not debate which one is less torturous for the animal. You only shoot the lungs because it's a bigger target and makes for a safer kill shot. Otherwise everyone would shoot the spine/brain.
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u/Single-Key1299 19d ago
That's obviously a lie lol - Pakistani MPs hold a majority in the HoC do they?
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u/Sarazin_Sky 18d ago
What's wrong with halal? You have vegans and vegetarians, why not halal? BTW I support a ban on marrying first cousins given the known genetic consequences for progeny
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u/LavishnessOk3439 21d ago edited 21d ago
You’re right that first-cousin marriage is legal in the UK — it’s permitted under British law, unlike in many U.S. states. The reasoning is that while there are some elevated genetic risks for children of cousin marriages, they are not considered high enough to justify a blanket ban.
As for your claim about a “ban attempt stopped by Pakistani MPs,” there hasn’t been a recent official UK-wide vote or serious legislative push to outlaw cousin marriage. The topic does get raised periodically, often linked to public health and integration debates, and some MPs have called for restrictions — usually citing higher rates of congenital disorders in communities where cousin marriage is more common. But no parliamentary bill to ban it has passed, and cultural sensitivity (including pressure from some ethnic minority representatives) has played a role in keeping it legal.
To clarify: • Halal slaughter is legal in the UK, but it is regulated under animal welfare law. Campaigns to restrict or ban it have also been raised but haven’t succeeded, for similar cultural and religious freedom reasons. • Cousin marriage is not banned, though it remains controversial. Discussions often come up in connection with health studies and community practices, especially in areas with high rates of consanguineous marriage.
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u/Pedgi 20d ago
ChatGPT ass response.
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u/LavishnessOk3439 20d ago
Guilty
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u/Pedgi 20d ago
LLMs are phenomenal tools but you won't impress or convince people letting them speak for you.
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u/CptSimons 19d ago
Just wondering what you disagree with in his response?
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u/Pedgi 19d ago
His comment wasn't an argument. It was a copy and paste from a chatgpt prompt. There's nothing to disagree with except the laziness of the comment.
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u/CptSimons 19d ago
So you are more annoyed at the laziness than the misinformation spread by the original commenter that he replied to? Oki doki
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u/ruggersyah 20d ago
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/uk-67422918.ampTen years ago researchers studying the health of more than 30,000 people in Bradford found that about 60% of babies in the Pakistani community had parents who were first or second cousins, but a new follow-up study of mothers in three inner-city wards finds the figure has dropped to 46%
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u/Previous-Tea-8750 20d ago
lol embarrassing, reminds me of the guy in Goodwill Hunting except he was atleast intelligent
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u/sureyouknowurself 21d ago
And it’s only going to get worse, it’s something they need to address.
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u/gordonfactor 22d ago
Politicians in the UK have banned possession of knives apparently except for the ones being used to slit their society's throat
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u/gapgod2001 18d ago
Imagine having inbred families from wrong turn running around your country raping your kids. That's what the UK is dealing with now in certain parts.
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u/Conscious_Smoke_3759 22d ago edited 21d ago
What's the inbreeding statistics on the British Royal family?
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u/LavishnessOk3439 21d ago
In recent times very little. I mean like in the last 100 years.
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u/Conscious_Smoke_3759 21d ago
Oh yeah? What about Prince Andrew's mysterious never sweat genetic mutation?
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u/LavishnessOk3439 21d ago
Yeah people do have genetic conditions even when they aren’t inbred
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u/NiceCunt91 20d ago
He doesn't even have a genetic condition. He can sweat there's pictures of him drenched in a light shirt.
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u/Smooth-Potential7686 18d ago
Yeah comparing modern Pakistanis to the royal family a hundred years ago is not helping the Pakistanis here
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u/Novat1993 19d ago
To add further context to the dangers of marrying your first cousin is taboo in the West. But defects related to first cousin marriages is actually quite low, assuming that there is a taboo in the civilization and that it occurs very rarely. But when cousin marriage is not taboo, and it happens repeatedly within a family, it can quickly become more dangerous than brother/sister marriages in a civilization which practically never marry first cousins.
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u/GazelleForward6791 18d ago
Animal torture, cousin marriage, hardline religious doctrines, polygamy and women as second class citizens.
Im describing Britain under the reign of Henry the 8th.
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u/Optimal_Hypnosis 21d ago
Cousin marriage is more common in Pakistan and among British Pakistanis than in the wider UK population. A BBC report found that over half of British Pakistanis marry a first cousin.
That does raise the risk of recessive genetic disorders in children, but not to the extreme numbers you see floating around online. General UK risk of birth defects is around 2–3%. For cousin marriages, it’s about 4–6%. So it’s higher, but not catastrophic.
NHS data shows British Pakistanis make up a small share of births but a higher share of recessive genetic disorders, which is why it’s seen as a public health issue.
Claims about IQ dropping 16 points or a 400% spike in disability aren’t supported by mainstream science. And linking it to rage or extremism isn’t medical at all, that’s political spin.
So yes, it’s a real health concern worth discussing, but a lot of the viral claims are exaggerations or misused to push an agenda.
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u/Decent-Thought-2648 21d ago
It's pretty hard to exaggerate how inbred Pakistan is. The majority of marriages in Pakistan are consanguinous. There's a decent argument to be had that Pakistan is the most inbred country on earth.
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u/HamEggunChips 21d ago
Not really when Dagestan exists
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u/Decent-Thought-2648 21d ago
Nah, Pakistan is still more inbred than Dagestan. Compare the inbreeding coefficients.
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u/mw136913 20d ago
Take a gander at Israel
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u/Decent-Thought-2648 20d ago
Israel isn't even the most inbred country in its neighborhood. It's surrounded by muslim countries that have endogamous clan family structures.
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u/TriedToGetOut 19d ago
General UK risk of birth defects is around 2–3%. For cousin marriages, it’s about 4–6%. So it’s higher, but not catastrophic.
That's the risk for the overall UK population, where cousin marriage has been taboo for centuries.
In communities where cousin marriage is the norm, and the two cousins are already products of inbreeding, the risk is much higher
Your comment is a great example of a bad use of statistics. It's not appropriate to use overall population rates when discussing issues with a specific community.
You wouldn't report the rate of breast cancer across the entire population, because breast cancer occurs almost entirely in women of a certain age. Including everyone in the denominator dilutes the rate and removes context.
Same here. Inbreeding is an issue specific to Pakistanis, so the risk should be reported in that context
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u/Optimal_Hypnosis 19d ago
The 2–3% vs 4–6% numbers are correct for a single cousin marriage. That’s the standard risk jump shown in genetic studies.
Where you’re right is if it happens over generations the risk stacks up and that’s why the NHS has flagged higher rates of recessive disorders in British Pakistani communities. They’re a small share of births but a much bigger share of those cases.
So the average numbers are real, but yeah in communities where cousin marriage is the cultural norm the effect is bigger than just one-off cousins marrying.
The issue is genuine, but people online throw out fake stats and add political spin to make it sound like some end-of-the-world situation instead of just sticking with what NHS and peer-reviewed research actually says.
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u/Intrepid_Skirt_8050 20d ago
I went to Resorts World near Birmingham earlier today. While waiting for someone in the lobby for 5 minutes I saw 2 inbred Pakistanis with different families. It's an anecdote and it was just 1 day but the fact that I saw 2 of them in such a short amount of time is crazy.
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