PC Help/Bug (Mod)
Why do my colonists never take food from the closest place? is it because my fridge priority is critical so they try to keep it full?
the real reason is because when the search for food is triggered it simply finds the meal back there first due to straight distance, even if the walk would have the meals in the fridge closer
RimWorld has always checked the distance when searching for the closest thing, disregarding the obstacles. And if I remember correctly, if you have mod Common Sense enabled, colonist will prioritize eating more spoiled meals, hence go for the shelf one.
Nothing annoying or bad really, i just had it always installed and never seen rimworld without it, so i unsubscribed to see if it changes anything in my gameplay or if i found something that annoyed me to get it again
And i haven't really found it so i didn't install it back but i think there's some things it does like ppl clean their work station before using it but my base is always clean cuz my highmate does that so I don't use it for now
From my subjective experience, pathing seems to be disconnected to any other logic or decisions the game makes.
One example I can think of is that zone restrictions have zero effect on pathing choices. They can't select a tile outside of their assigned zone as a destination or interact with objects, but they can and will walk outside of their assigned zones if the pathing is faster.
Ive lost multiple pawns to sleeping mechs before I understood this.
Yup. Learned this the hard way when playing with lava kill boxes. Gotta make sure they have a faster shortcut or they will try to walk through the 900c room regardless of zoning
listen, we’ve all been there. you don’t want to go around the long way so you go through the OSHA violation room rigged with multiple looney toons style traps. all of us are lazy sometimes
Omg thank you thats really good I don't know of any reason this mod would be bad its better this way and yeah rip to him i just got back to rimworld the day he died somehow but he seemed like a chill guy
Yes. This is one of the most frustrating things about the game, and I haven't seen any mods that fix it. I have absolutely no idea why two pawns can't take something from the same stack.
It's weird, it's probably cause when an item is stacked it saves as a single one but with a value being the amount and a texture displaying depending on how much there is
Since it's all one item, only one pawn can be assigned to that stack / item
It's not just per stack, it's per tile. If you have a shelf, then only one pawn can take or place stuff onto each tile of that shelf. This becomes really obvious when you have a storage mod with large capacity single tile storage places.
I'm not a programmer, outside of a few mods for this game, but it doesn't feel like it'd be a hard fix.
If the stack has a value, then it makes sense that more than one pawn should be able to take from said stack, and if the value of the stack reaches zero, then no more pawns can take from that stack.
It might work similar to the code that allows several pawns to load stuff into a transport pod, for example, or like the "Share the Load" mod, where multiple pawns can deliver material for a building under construction.
I know that would involve tinkering with the game's C# code, but still.
Yeah but the problem would be you would need a new value called borrowed
For example a pawn needs to grab x20 steel or x15 steel from a x20 steel stack, then another pawn imagine it paths to that same steel stack
Once one grabs the steel stack, there's no more for the other guy that pathed there because it all got grabbed by the first pawn
So yeah stacks should have a borrowed value, when a pawn is pathing to it and needs to grab some, it should have a value like "borrowed: 15" so other pawns know there might not be enough for them on that stack
Yeah, probably the way stacks are codded, items stack in a single tile and are considered ONE object with x amount for optimization
I once was making an inventory system and when the player had 10 dirt blocks i had each one saved separately and i realized i was wasting too much space and processing on data when all the blocks were exactly the same so i added an "amount" value to that block so i could group all into one object
Makes sense. Probably not super hard to change for Ludeon, but difficult or impossible to mod. And it makes sense that massive performance issues are the reason.
Hmmm i dont think so I've set the priority of the fridges to critical, the storage freezer has just "normal" so the oldest meals are in the fridges, while the ones without space on the storage freezer, when there's a free space in the fridges they move it from the storage to there
I've noticed that there's sometimes a strange bug with this fridge mod in that sometimes a fridge is "reserved" or something so pawns won't haul to it until you uninstall and reinstall it. I haven't used those fridges for meals, so I'd suggest trying the double chest fridge to see if the issue repeats.
I removed the fridges mod because my colony starved. No idea why they wouldn't take any meals from fridges. The meals also didn't show up in the counter. I'd set my cooker to keep 40 meals for my 4 colonists. Unless they eat 40 meals a day then I think meals in fridges 2as the problem.
Go into their food settings and disallow them from eating raw food, and then only allow crafted meals to go in the fridges up front. You’ll never have this issue again.
If they are cooking a higher quality meal it can require multiple ingredients. They may be grabbing from the closer shelf without you realizing it and then grabbing another ingredient to make the higher quality meal.
Pawns are weird about food. I’ve had a few colonies with no food restrictions that flat out refused to eat entirely. I had to manually tell each one to eat. They wouldn’t touch food on the ground, in storage, or even meals in their inventory. And I play without mods.
They are idiots when it comes to food. "Id rather eat this dog kibble and raw stinging nettles than go all the way back to the base for a lavish gourmet meal... urgh ate disliked food why me!?"
Probably meal plan but also distance seems to be different from travel time. A fridge on the other side of a wall might take longer to get to (going around hallways) but is still technically closer than somewhere that's faster to get to but is further away
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u/Prism-96 1d ago
the real reason is because when the search for food is triggered it simply finds the meal back there first due to straight distance, even if the walk would have the meals in the fridge closer