r/Sardonicast 18d ago

any examples of this? I feel like it happens often

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I’ll be watching an American film, and halfway through I’ll think “wait didn’t Michael Hanake do this same concept before… but really well?” Idk, maybe I’m just a fangirl

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u/Bilboscott8 18d ago

I think Cabin in the Woods is a stretch. It and Funny Games offer completely different experiences, and if simply doing a meta horror film means that you invented the very concept, then Haneke ripped off Wes Craven’s New Nightmare and Scream

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u/SebbyGet4 18d ago edited 18d ago

yeahhh, the list started w/ Babygirl and The Gift, but then I wondered if I could find an American counterpart to every Hanake film. There’s a specific film w/ Funny Games that’s way less of a stretch, but it’s on the tip of my tongue rn. Cabin in the Woods is a placeholder for now, bc of the titlecard and general feel of “these characters are stuck in a horror trope / a fictional structure”

(it’s not Funny Games 2007 lol)

edit found it! don’t remember everything about this, but I swear it has scenes that are RIPPED out of Funny Games

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u/MrBigChest 18d ago

The Strangers

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u/AdFamous7264 15d ago edited 15d ago

I slightly disagree about how much of a stretch it is. It's a film where the genre itself is the main threat which invites the audience to reflect on their own engagement with the film and genre. 

The main differences are:

It plays harder into the tropes and camp of American horror

It's a "cabin in the woods" horror rather than "home invasion" horror 

It replaces/manifests the role of the filmmaker in Funny Games with The Organization, and the role of the audience with The Ancient Ones. It takes the meta/symbolism of Funny Games and makes it more tangible/plot oriented. 

I like to joke that Cabin In The Woods is Funny Games meets Monster's Inc. 

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u/fauxREALimdying 18d ago

There’s several similarities and even a direct reference

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u/ShirubaMasuta 18d ago

I mean I've seen others make this comparison

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u/just2good 18d ago

As Adum said, Benny’s Video and Afterschool

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u/SebbyGet4 18d ago

ooo I’ve been meaning to watch afterschool for ages- OMG! LEGO GIRL! haiii just2!

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u/Odd-Wrongdoer-8979 18d ago

Babygirl is more like The Secretary to me. Piano Teacher ends in this really depraved and sad state that's kinda incomparable 

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u/BarrioMan 18d ago

That was why I didn’t want to see Babygirl, since I had the feeling that it would be like Secretary. This is a bad thing because Secretary is one of my favorite dramedies of the 2000’s, and I don’t want to be thinking that I could just be watching something better during Babygirl. But what did you think of Babygirl?

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u/Odd-Wrongdoer-8979 16d ago

Pretty meh to me personally. A step above like say Fifty Shades but nothing impeccable to where I'd watch it again. Solid 6.5/7 

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u/Exciting_Rip_185 18d ago

The original speak no evil would be a better placeholder for meh funny games

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u/astral_planes 18d ago

Yeah, but Speak no Evil was a commentary on how much people will endure in the name of politeness, and not a commentary on violence in media. Also Speak No Evil isn't meh

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u/McOther10_10 18d ago

Hey I love Babel and Code Unknown!

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u/CnelAurelianoBuendia 17d ago

Why is Funny Games in here? Am I missing something?

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u/SebbyGet4 17d ago

the list order is: Hanake Film, then U.S film (repeated). Funny Games is the Michael Hanake film and The Cabin in the Woods is the U.S. film that I found handled the concept worse.

since replaced Cabin w/ In Their Skin, a film that is more blatantly inspired by (and lesser than) Funny Games

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u/CnelAurelianoBuendia 17d ago

I see. Thank you.

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u/Similar_Two_542 16d ago

Babel is great

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u/AdFamous7264 16d ago edited 15d ago

Rüben Ostlund's 'Play' is heavily inspired by parts of Code Unknown, and definitely is not as good. 

The Father could be a good one for Amour, but at least that film is quite good. Maybe The Whale. 

Huge stretch, but I can see a few similarities between Eddington and 71 Fragments. 

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u/StickyBandit1999 15d ago

Babel is so good what are you smoking? A better comparison would probably be Crash or something but even then, intersecting narratives have been done for years before CU and after so it’s hard to call any of them the mid version of CU

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u/Accomplished-Face180 14d ago

Amour and the Notebook?