How satisfied are you all with Suny's new shadowbound Memory?

[u/TemperatureNo9640]

I was not all that impressed at first. I liked the Mercy of Shadow, Shadow Flame, and Curse and the synergy among them. But I was not the most impressed, mainly because of Absence of Light and the lack of enchantments to see through true Darkness (I am still a bit sour about that, but let's not go there for now). But The Chain? Oh boy. I loved that enchantment. Now Sunny can go much farther with Shadow Dance. And weaving the very concept of permanence into an artefact was incredible.

So what are y'all's opinions?

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[u/jjvaz]

My only comment is that he should’ve giving Rain the task of creating a good description.

[u/Necessary-Date7192 → u/jjvaz]

🤣🤣🤣

[u/Due_Economics5455]

It's good, enhanced his abilities, solved some problems in existing ones, it's good.

[u/Coronabirus_123]

I'm quite satisfied with his new shadowbound memory cause it can help him clear larger swarms of NM creatures and I also share similar feelings with you on the [Absence of Light] enchantment where he can't see through true darkness but since it has the [Bound] trait that grows alongside it's master hopefully G3 will add or upgrade the enchantment where he could see through true darkness once he reaches Sacred rank.

I also like how the [Mercy of shadow] enchantment increased the quality of his Death Will Which made Sunny even more deadly + it works well in tandem with Soul serpent's [Slaying Blade] ability which ignores a being's will

So Sunny with enhanced death will + Slaying Blade that ignores a being's will is a nasty combo.

And I also like that the [Shadow Flame] enchantment made Sunny's augmentation work like Nephis's augmentation which gives Sunny even more versatility

My least favorite enchantment would be the [Weakening Curse] as it seems situational at best to me. but it Synergizes well with [Shadow Flame] and [Mercy of shadow]

But my most Favorite enchantment would be the [Dark Embrace] because it allows Nephis to help her ease her flaw in Sunny's embrace

And the [Chain] Enchantment I like it's 2nd function more than the 1st Function as the 2nd Function allows him to use [Shadow Dance] without the risk of losing himself.

That's my opinion on Sunny's new shadowbound memory I like most of it's enchantments so it makes me feel quite satisfied 👍

[u/Playful-Tax-5640]

In the first chapter I wasn't very enthusiastic, but in the one after they explained how well it works and there's also the chain, I think sunny cooked badly... also I think he should have done something about his weaknesses in the darkness and others

[u/TemperatureNo9640 → u/Playful-Tax-5640]

Exactly. I liked all the enchantments very much except Absence of Light. Would've been better if he integrated True darkness vision capabilities into it or something. Or better yet not remove the augmentation in True Darkness as well as shadows and darkness of any kind.
I also wanted to see a proper healing enchantment, for when Nephise is not there to heal him, but oh well. Suppose The Chain can act as one. Also, do you know if The Chain will make Sunny lose all his memories that he gained after imprinting his self into reality using the Chain if he reverts? It did say that the Chain will reverse even the mind. If not, great. It can be a great healing enchantment as well.

[u/Exotic-Chair-6960]

I think that it's a pretty good memory.

With the curse, sunny filled the hole in his powerset which was power, something sunny was lacking in his extreme versatile powers. While some may fill like filler enchantments, it undoubtedly upped his game. The fact that his shadows can draw power from his soul core is pretty op considering that his shadows now can fight non stop. Sunny also never needed a soul bounded weapon, something many individuals wanted. Such a thing could still be incomparable to soul serpent. The chain also can keep sunny in check without his true name, helping in his advancement in shadow dance.

[u/TwistedKindness11 → u/Exotic-Chair-6960]

Sunny already had a way to quickly destroy a horde of weaker enemies. He just needs to control the shadows and materialize blades under each enemy. When supplied with his essence, each of them is equal to a Supreme memory, so they should be able to one shot anyone weaker than Sunny.

[u/Exotic-Chair-6960 → u/TwistedKindness11]

Sunny can destroy an entire horde of weaker enemies but that's not his job. His job is to fight enemies that can decimate entire legions.

True, sunny can oneshot anyone who's weaker then him. But sunny isn't gonna be fighting kids or average awakeneds. He's gonna fight powerful foes like the VTB and asterion. In such situations sunny's death will along with soul serpent can be pretty devastating combo. Even in sunny's fight against anvil, serpent played an major role in the battle. And sunny said it himself, he doesn't want to rely on an external power source.

[u/TwistedKindness11 → u/Exotic-Chair-6960]

I have no problem with the Death Will, just weakening enemies with his shadows. As you said his job is to fight powerful foes. Any Supreme or above can destroy his shadows, and he takes massive soul damage when they do. Remember how Jet's corrupted version killed Sunny like that quite a few times.

[u/Exotic-Chair-6960 → u/TwistedKindness11]

Yeah he receives soul damage with his seven incarnations. But Sunny can also use the weakening cure on shadows in general, not just his seven bodies. In the chain chapter, sunny even talked about its synergy with death will and mercy of shadow, how he can sap away a thousand foes powers. Its usage is possible through generality. It's not just limited to his incarnations. But I agree that weakening curse can dangerous in unprecedented situations, something even Sunny admitted.

[u/TwistedKindness11 → u/Exotic-Chair-6960]

Being able to subdivide the buff / debuff, is another attribute of the Curse. Why else do you think he says it's dangerous. If not, he can simply use the ambient shadows to weaken them, without any risk.

[u/Exotic-Chair-6960 → u/TwistedKindness11]

I suppose the buff/debuff potency of weakening curse depends on whether sunny is using his incarnation or just normal shadows. If it's the former, then the debuff will be stronger and more effective compare to the latter.

[u/Malevolent_ce]

As a gamer who always prioritizes utility and versatility. I love it

[u/Beginning_Badger_252]

I will be honest, Sunny solved most of his problems which I never knew existed in first place. But he still didn't solved his actual problems. And I think Sunny needs to do something about this.

1. He needs to do something about his problem with true darkness. Use Saint and make a use of her attribute and create a memory or something which will help you survive in true darkness.

2. Create a memory which allows you enter another person's soul sea. Then use it enter into Mordret's soul sea and kidnap the other Mordret.

His biggest problems are True Darkness, Mordret and Dreamspawn right now. So he needs to do those two things solve two problems, as for dreamspawn, i guess g3 have something figure out already

[u/TemperatureNo9640 → u/Beginning_Badger_252]

This was what I meant by I was not all that impressed mainly due to the lack of enchantments to see through true darkness.
I really liked most of the enchantments, but the fact that Sunny did not create methods to see through true darkness, even when he could have merged with Saint and inspected her true Darkness abilities in detail to create an enchantment of that nature is just disappointing. Especially so when he has to go to the underworld, a realm of true darkness to retrieve the next fragment of Weaver's lineage. My running theory is that it is just another way for G3 to nerf Sunny's potential.

Another thing I had a problem with was Sunny not creating a healing enchantment. That was something I really wanted to see. I even had an idea for it. Like, make it like the "Dying Wish" but charged by his death will instead of actual deaths. Would've been cool. Didn't happen, sadly. But the Chain can be used as a type of healing artefact in a way, I suppose. Small mercies...

[u/Beginning_Badger_252 → u/TemperatureNo9640]

You are heavily underestimating the true darkness. It's not that easy to create an enchantment to deal with it. Sunny is still not skilled enough to do something like that.

And I am pretty sure the memories like dying wish are useless to him since it's like one time use and everything.

Sunny already have some insane abilities already

[u/TemperatureNo9640 → u/Beginning_Badger_252]

"You are heavily underestimating True Darkness".
Maybe I am, maybe I am not. I was basing my argument on Sunny weaving a charm (Evening Star) to augment its wielder in all types of darkness. Besides, he could merge with saint. But let's not have this argument. I already had something along the same lines as this.

As for Dying wish being one time, not exactly. Once its death charge is exhausted, you will have to recharge it with more deaths. That's why I said using Death Will since Sunny can charge the hypothetical charm with it as he pleases.

And yes, Sunny does have a lot of insane abilities, but healing is always appreciated. What will happen if he suffers a grievous wound and there is no-one to heal him?

[u/Left_Incident7889]

I didn't like how op this is, it's so strong it's ridiculous.

[u/bckeye39 → u/Left_Incident7889]

Same, it feels like it is becoming a power fantasy where the MC is way ahead of everyone in his rank with this power-up

[u/raketiz → u/Left_Incident7889]

Fr he just enhances and upgrades his already immensly powerful divine aspect like it’s nothing

[u/kimmyjonghubaccount → u/raketiz]

Didn’t it take like a whole year of effort?

[u/raketiz → u/kimmyjonghubaccount]

Well it feels effortless, because we didn’t see the effort. I can‘t even remember when he started crafting it, in fact i think we didn’t even know until now that he even started creating the shadowbound memory for himself. It was like oh Sunnys been crafting his shadowbound memory for the past 2 years btw and now he‘s in the finishing steps and all of a sudden it’s one of the most broken memories ever

[u/Ragna126]

I like it a lot. And cannot see when Sunny reaches new heights.

[u/Fluffy-Barnacle-7150]

I made a post ages ago saying sunny was gonna make a charm which happened so I'm happy lmao. Little dissappinted he didn't get adaptive resistance though, but honestly the concept of permanence is way better if he can use it consistently for short bursts or just when someone hits him. Though honestly he should just change his shadow to avoid all attacks imo. Shame he never really learn how even as a shadow....

[u/Patfussi]

Happy with everything but the description. That was always my favorite part about memories in the story because it always had such good lore.