Americans invented apple pie, and also saved it from being bad British food

[u/TeacupUmbrella]

Context: a post about how the earliest apple pie recipe we have from England had no sugar in it (since it's from the 1300s) and so they sweetened it with other fruits and such.

Yep, America invented apple pie like 400 years before America even existed, and also save it from being bad British food.

[u/Project_Rees]

Would you like some food with your seasoning?

They're so used to only tasting what is being added to their food and drinks that they're convinced its a good thing.

Fanta is a famous one, the american fanta is fluorescent orange, almost red. Have they ever seen orange juice?

[u/Weekly-Remote-3990 → u/Project_Rees]

TIL that American Fanta doesn’t even contain orange juice… just corn sirup 🤯

[u/Project_Rees → u/Weekly-Remote-3990]

I have a bottle of fanta right here. (The UK). The complete ingredients is this...

Carbonated Water, Orange Juice from Concentrate (4%), Acids (Citric Acid, Malic Acid), Sweeteners (Cyclamates, Acesulfame-K, Sucralose, Steviol Glycosides from Stevia, Neohesperidine DC), Natural Orange Flavouring with other Natural Flavourings, Preservative (Potassium Sorbate), Antioxidant (Ascorbic Acid), Stabiliser (Guar Gum), Colour (Carotenes).

American fanta, pulled from the coca-cola website...

CARBONATED WATER, HIGH FRUCTOSE CORN SYRUP, LESS THAN 2% OF: CITRIC ACID, NATURAL FLAVORS, SODIUM BENZOATE (TO PROTECT TASTE), MODIFIED FOOD STARCH, GLYCEROL ESTER OF ROSIN, YELLOW 6, RED 40.

American fanta is just sugar and colours.

For an added point, although Red 40 is not outright banned in the UK or the EU, it does require a warning label saying "may have an adverse effect on activity and attention in children"

My preferred Orange soft drink is Orangina. These are their ingredients...

Carbonated Water, Orange Juice and other Citrus Juices from Concentrate 12% (Orange 10%, Lemon, Mandarin, Grapefruit), Pulp 2% (Orange 1%, Mandarin), Natural Orange Flavourings with other Natural Flavourings, Sweeteners (Acesulfame K, Sucralose), Orange Peel Extract

[u/TeacupUmbrella → u/Project_Rees]

Yeah Orangina a is good. Me and my brother like to call it Orange Gina for fun, too.

[u/Weekly-Remote-3990 → u/Project_Rees]

Interesting, are those the ingredients for Fanta Zero or are there sweeteners in the normal UK Fanta as well?

In Switzerland it’s:

Water, sugar, orange juice from orange juice concentrate (5.3%), carbon dioxide, citric acid, natural orange flavor with other natural flavors, antioxidant (ascorbic acid), natural dye (carotene), guar gum.

Love Orangina as well!

[u/Project_Rees → u/Weekly-Remote-3990]

These were both from the normal basic "original" fanta.

Switzerland is even better than here, I want to try that one

[u/Remedial_Gash → u/Weekly-Remote-3990]

The gov introduced a sugar tax for drinks over a certain percentage, which lead to most domestic products adding sweeteners rather than raising prices. There aren't many that are using regular sugar as a sole sweetener now. OG Coke is all sugar and is about 20p more than other 330ml cans.

Best bet for purely sugar sweetened drinks now are either 'foreign' or obscure/discounted, like RIO and the like.

[u/Remedial_Gash → u/Project_Rees]

Ha! the local polski sklep (In Wales) had a range of fantas I'd never seen before, and so bought a 'strawberry' one, cause I thought it would be fun - it was 1.30£ and imported from the good ol' USA - it was vile. I couldn't finish it and upon inspection of the ingredients had a ton of corn syrup and contained zero fruit juice - which it also stated in tiny letters.

It was alright to begin with, because it tasted like calpol (an infant paracetemol suspension), but even ice cold I barely drank a third of a can.

Thankfully I also bought a can of Mirinda - which while sweet (a treat as a recovering booze hound), at least had some fruit juice (only 4%) but was a bit better - sad it's owned by pepsico..

[u/Project_Rees → u/Remedial_Gash]

Its really not the same. Far too sweet and doesn't taste anything like the 'flavour' its supposed to be. If I cant see the ones I want, there's always Rio.

[u/Remedial_Gash → u/Project_Rees]

Good call -Rio is acebest, I miss quatro, but that was probably shit anyway.

Turns out I'm really fucking old. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quatro_(drink))

[u/gypsyjackson → u/Remedial_Gash]

I remember Quatro. Had it once as a treat on the walk back home from school in Wembley. I dreamed of having it again, but I don’t think it happened (we were very poor).