r/ShitAmericansSay • u/Vegetable-Vehicle-33 • 1d ago
Per capita “Meaning the UK is significantly more dangerous”
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u/Kind_Ad5566 1d ago
Americans think Per Capita is a French actor.
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u/AdMean6001 1d ago
I always thought he was Italian.
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u/Canotic 1d ago
Per is an actual Swedish name so I think he's Scandinavian.
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u/neilm1000 ooo custom flair!! 1d ago
No, he's 0.26% Viking. So he's claiming his Sicilian heritage.
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u/ViolettaHunter 1d ago
Swedish mother, Italian father! But he lives and works in France, so that confuses people.
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u/No-Minimum3259 1d ago
Per is also the brand name of a popular dish washing soap.
I'm not really shure what to think about that, being an old geezer, currently rereading the Sjöwall&Wahlöö novells...
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u/EmotionalSearch9707 1d ago
No,that's Pro Rata.
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u/AdMean6001 1d ago
Ah, I know him, he's Sicilian!
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u/neddie_nardle 1d ago
Yeh, yeh, that's him. Lives in Jersey. No, the original Jersey. The one in the US of A "OH SAY CAN YOU SEEEEEEEEE..................." His great great great great grandparents moved to Jersey with the Mayflower, and that makes him more Sicicillian than those Silicans who live near Italien!
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u/Crazy-Cremola 1d ago
Pro Bono is totally unknown though....
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u/Miss_Annie_Munich European first, then Bavarian 1d ago
In a discussion with some US Americans some years ago we used “per capita” and they were looking puzzled and then they asked us what Washington DC as their capital had to do with the discussed topic
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u/Faethien Frog eating world champions (I think, can't be arsed to check?) 1d ago
Well, oh la la, he's one of our prized comedians obviously.
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u/DanTheLegoMan It's pronounced Scone 🏴 1d ago
I know we all know, but it’s not even remotely close. 4x more likely to be murdered in USA per capita than in the U.K.
https://www.nationmaster.com/country-info/compare/United-Kingdom/United-States/Crime/Violent-crime
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u/AdMean6001 1d ago
Yes, but four times more for 100,000 or four times more for 1,000, because that changes everything... well, for an American, it obviously changes everything.
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u/Canotic 1d ago
They have more people per capita, don't ya know.
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u/AdMean6001 1d ago
In Texas, no doubt... or are you talking about population volumes?
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u/ward2k 1d ago
It's like how the topic of stabbings comes up, they always say how the UK is one of the worst places in the world for that
Except per capita the UK has around 0.08 stabbing deaths per 100k
The US has 0.53 per 100k
8000 vs 53,000
You're 6 times as likely to be killed by stabbing in the US...
The UK is actually one of the safest countries in the world for stabbing related deaths
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u/Particular_Jello_917 1d ago
Americans fail to realise that knife and gun deaths are relatively uncommon in the UK so incidences tend to make headline news, admittedly with a degree of hysteria, which gets picked up by international news sites.
I have travelled the US eight times over the years and have been adjacent to three gun incidents, including being locked in a Motel 6 in Gilroy, California while a gunman was apprehended in the car park. I had a ring side seat, as my room overlooked the car park.
As far as I know I have never seen, or been close to a gun or knife crime in the UK, during my 70 odd years on this planet, except for when I was a soldier in Northern Ireland during The Troubles in the 70s and 80s, where it was a daily and some an hourly event. Thanks to Americans funding weapon purchases.
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u/herO_wraith 1d ago
so incidences tend to make headline news, admittedly with a degree of hysteria
As much as the news, it is the politicians too. Saying 'stabbing people bad' is such a free win. 'If you vote for me, I'll stop people being stabbed.' Knife crime an obviously bad thing, it cannot be contested so it gets used a lot in the run-up to elections. Assisted dying, immigration, NHS reforms, all very touchy issues that they'd always annoy someone, stopping knife crime though?
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u/secondcomingwp 20h ago
A single stabbing in the UK probably gets more national and international coverage than the daily mass shootings in the US.
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u/DanTheLegoMan It's pronounced Scone 🏴 1d ago
Exactly, it’s the propaganda nonsense that gutter networks pump out as a way to deflect away from their gun violence insanity. Like you’ll be able to stop a stabbing if you carry a gun, where as Europoors are being hacked down in the streets because of their oppressive governments and no freedumbs.
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u/Kind_Dream_610 1d ago
It’s surprising how the US has more stabbings, considering their usual murder weapon of choice is a semiautomatic.
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u/PorkVale 1d ago
Do they teach basic statistics in the US? So many times on this site dipshits don't understand what per capita means.
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u/kunnossa_ 1d ago
The more I’m on the internet, the more I doubt existence of American education
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u/LeoxStryker 1d ago
The only proof American education exists is the mass shootings at the schools
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u/Kind_Dream_610 1d ago
You’re very clearly mistaken. It proves they have schools, not education. You can’t be educated when all you’re thinking about is how long it will be till you need to dive under your desk.
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u/parasyte_steve third world American 1d ago
The problem is we have legislation that started with Bush called "no child left behind" that basically forced the majority of students through even if they fail the courses. What happens is they get stuck in summer school and have a very very basic and dumbed down version of what you learn in a typical year and as long as you can squeak by you still get to go to the next grade. So essentially they are able to still advance as long as they can spell their own name and show up.
The American high-school curriculum is already a dumbed down version of the EU curriculum and they dumb it down even further to push people through.
The only thing the politicians here care about is making good worker bees. If they are stuck in high-school they can't work a low paying job for a corporation to take advantage of them.
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u/Creepy_Tension_6164 1d ago
Repeating a year is more common in the US than European countries though. Even after the "no child left behind" stuff.
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u/X2seraphim 1d ago
All exams are multiple choice so even an idiot has a fighting chance.
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u/Cheapntacky 1d ago
He knows what it means, but apparently believes it's uniquely American and other countries can't grasp such advanced statistics and everything is bigger in America obviously so they multiply it by 100.
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u/DarthLuigi83 1d ago
I'm pretty sure they avoid anything that could lead to critical thinking skills
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u/parasyte_steve third world American 1d ago
They teach statistics and probability in high-school as a single course however they don't explain per capita. I didn't learn about per capita until college level statistics. They basically just teach you how to read charts in high-school. You might touch on a bell curve but you can probably still pass the class if you fail the bell curve answers lol
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u/Lazy_Maintenance8063 1d ago
But, but, USA has more people per capita🇵🇷🇱🇷🇲🇾🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🇵🇷🦅🦅🦅🦅
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u/Particular-Bid-1640 1d ago
Texas has a bigger population than Texas!
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u/Lazy_Maintenance8063 1d ago
Nothing is bigger than Texas, except Alaska, Canada and 37 other sovereign nations.
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u/Particular-Bid-1640 1d ago
Yeah, but only when put together. And still then Texas is bigger than all that plus Texas
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u/Lazy_Maintenance8063 1d ago
Oh man, Texas seems to be so big that you can drive hours and still be in Texas. The distance must be like 1,000,00.000,98 refridgerators long.
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u/ridewithaw 1d ago
Last school shooting in USA - day before yesterday. Last school shooing in UK - 1996
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u/Legal-Software 1d ago
At this point Wikipedia should just swap over to listing days without a school shooting for the US, as the table would be smaller.
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u/SilentLennie 1d ago
https://www.gunviolencearchive.org/last-72-hours gun incidents is 5 pages long, 'only' 1 in roughly 4.5 is a deadly incident.
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u/peanutbutteroverload 1d ago
Oh well that makes it miles better...I mean I guess the others just didn't mind getting shot or being shot at........just another day of..people shooting people.
Very mass shootings in Switzerland this year. Or last year. Weird that eh...almost seems like the US has a problem.
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u/Firewolf06 1d ago
not school shootings specifically, but we usually have more than one mass shooting per day on average
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u/Zippokovich 1d ago
He's right, in the UK we do our stats by hogshead per nag's tail (it's dangerous because the nags keep kicking)
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u/OldSpudders 1d ago
Don't forget to divide by the sticky wickets once you've calculated the overall squaggles per village.
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u/Viliam_the_Vurst 1d ago
Funfact, per capita uk has less violent knife crimes than the us.
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u/Xenozip3371Alpha 1d ago
Which is hilarious that many over there say we swap gun crime for knife crime.
No we don't, because in a knife fight you're at risk of the other grabbing the fucking knife.
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u/Viliam_the_Vurst 1d ago
I mean, realistically the best defense against a knife is grabbing your legs, the risk of you grabbing someones knife usually ends in several stabwounds and likely fatal bloodloss in most cases for the attacked, sometimes also the attacker. „Bringing a knife to a gunfight“ has its validity, it is not smart to bring close range weapons to a long range fight
Banning guns might have contributed to more knife crimes, but that is completely irrelevant given the lower stats, it definitely lowered violent crimes committed with guns, so in short it works…and so will knife bans do.
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u/ProtoplanetaryNebula 17h ago
Most knife crime in the UK is gang related and can be avoided by not being part of a gang. Its not like you are going to be stabbed going for a walk or something
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u/Time_Heron_619 22h ago
More like USA has both crimes
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u/TheBadnessInMe 9h ago
The whole “Right to bear arms means we can protect ourselves from knife crime and rape!” is sold to them as a reason to own guns.
It is, of course, complete nonsense. But it plays on their Rambo fantasies of being the good guy with a gun who will save the day.
Experience shows that in the moment they’re not the good guy with a gun, instead they shit themselves, can’t hold a gun steady, and just add to the casualty list.
That’s if they’re not shot by the police who arrive, see them firing and assume them be the bad guy with a gun.
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u/TorontoRider 1d ago
"Per Capita" literally means "by the head." Since many Americans don't use their heads, they're safe.
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u/TheOnlyCuteAlien 1d ago
This is the homicide rates of the G7 countries. https://www.statista.com/statistics/1374211/g7-country-homicide-rate/ Look who is number 1, by a big margin.
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u/Occidentally20 1d ago
The last American I showed this to said "yes but that data is taking into account all the people the police kill, so it's not a fair comparison".
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u/TheOnlyCuteAlien 1d ago
It would only be unfair if they did that for some countries, but not all. Americans really are stupid.
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u/Occidentally20 1d ago
Indeed. He thought it was unfair because other countries police "don't have to kill as many people as the USA"
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u/TheBadnessInMe 9h ago
In fairness, in most countries police don’t have to kill many people in the USA.
Why? Because in most countries the police rarely encounter an armed criminal.
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u/parasyte_steve third world American 1d ago
This is the same reason they don't understand why red states are more dangerous than blue states. They look at the number of crimes and do not understand what per capita means.
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u/IcemanGeneMalenko 1d ago
Use "football fields" and "the size of Texas" as measurements, then they might have some idea what you're on about
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u/cigaretteatron 1d ago
“The UK is atleast 3 and a half football fields more dangerous than our land of the free!”
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u/Basic_Ask8109 1d ago
As if the USA statistics apply to the population in the UK.
The UK would apply the same crimes per capita etc equation
Total crimes broke down by population.
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u/forgotpassword_aga1n 1d ago
I compared knife crime data between the US and the UK.
Turns out that Americans are stabbier.
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u/Basic_Ask8109 1d ago
Which is interesting because you have to pay for health care in the US.
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u/Drake_the_troll 1d ago
and the ambulance. if youre lucky you might even get a company thats covered by your insurance
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u/TheBadnessInMe 9h ago
And uniquely in the USA hospitals - particularly ER units - tend to be built away from the high crime parts of towns and cities where the demand is needed, so the victims of violence have longer wait times for an ambulance to arrive and longer journeys to hospitals. This delay in getting emergency treatment reduces the likelihood of a good outcome for the victim.
Why are US hospitals built away from the areas where demand is highest?
Because they’re the poorer parts of town where the population has a lower proportion of insured people.And in the US, healthcare is about profit.
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u/Happiness-to-go 1d ago
I did these stats last year for dumb Americans. The deaths per capita from all causes is higher in the US. Often by multiples. There is one dodgy and disproven study that “found” UK knife crime to be high but it was factually inaccurate. Another study understated it. In reality UK knife crime is a problem, by UK standards, but nothing like US standards.
In short UK homicides overall were a tiny fraction of the US. UK knife homocides were still lower than US. UK knife injuries and attacks were lower than the US. The UK National Statistics service breaks it down by cause (domestic obviously being highest) and region. It’s a great source of stats.
Before you ask for my work, sadly my laptop died and I was off work with cancer and keeping myself busy. It was a lot of work and I lost it all because I don’t pay for Cloud storage. I am sad but there is no way I’m wasting my spare time researching that again now I have a job!!
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u/Particular_Jello_917 1d ago
No, no, no!
In the UK we kill with devastating wit and sarcasm.
The stats are dreadful.
PS. Wish you well.
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u/Happiness-to-go 1d ago
Ah now, you have hit on the one homicide stat we excel at. The UK kills with wit. Served dry.
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u/PresidentPopcorn 1d ago
He's got a point. I get shot every other time I leave the house. Stepped on a landmine the other day.
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u/der_steinfrosch 1d ago
US crime rates are insane compared to British ones…I currently live in Richmond VA, and I used to live in Manchester, UK…Greater Manchester is roughly 10x larger than RVA by population, yet it has roughly half the number of murders annually…
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u/Searching4LambSauce 1d ago
This person isn't American.
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u/TSMKFail 🇬🇧 Britcoin 🇬🇧 1d ago edited 1d ago
He's right. A saw an argument between two older fellows and one was telling the other about how Yorkshire Tea is overrated and that Tetley is better. He was sent to hospital with 87 stabwounds and some Tetley tea bags shoved in his crevice (obviously to prove a point about their taste). It's like the somme
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u/dead_jester Soviet Socialist Monarchist Freedum Hater :snoo_dealwithit: 1d ago
Are you Verdun now?
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u/Ill_Raccoon6185 1d ago
In US with a government trying to bankrupt & starve its population through its policies, I think UK i much safer to live.
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u/AnonymousTimewaster 1d ago
Lol that's r/charts for you!
Shithole of a sub (that comment was on my post btw)
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u/AlternativePrior9559 ooo custom flair!! 1d ago
This is what happens when you leave the S off Maths
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u/willber03892 14h ago
Americans believe that the UK is over run by Muslim warriors and rape gangs. That stabbings out number their murder rates. Then again so do plenty of reform voters.....
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u/SatchSaysPlay 1h ago
I didn't even think am American with their worldwide recognised intelligence /s
could claim such a monumentally stupid opinion
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u/SemajLu_The_crusader 1d ago
while America does have more people per capita, that Isn't really relevant
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u/rothcoltd 1d ago
Obviously statistics are not his strong point.