r/ShitPoliticsSays May 30 '25

Godwin's Law Found this one

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u/babno May 30 '25

It's incredible how completely ignorant they are of even racial demographics in different parts of the world.

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u/FortunateHominid May 30 '25

Or globally. They don't realize only 10%-16% of the global population is "white". That's with some estimates even lower (below 10%).

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u/AnHonestConvert White May 30 '25

you don’t have to say "white" like it’s not real. White is real. And it’s a proper noun.

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u/FortunateHominid May 30 '25

I never said it wasn't. It combines people of many different ethnic groups and ancestry into one monolith.

Sorry if you were offended by my use of quotes.

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u/AnHonestConvert White May 30 '25

Not really offended; just pointing out that it’s a real racial identity and grouping. Generally, White people are Europeans and their descendants and founded related polities, like the United States, Canada, Australia, etc.

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u/FortunateHominid May 30 '25 edited May 30 '25

I understand it's a grouping. Though imo it's often used in context which many wouldn't agree with.

Take a few people from Italy, Ireland, Norway, Armenia, Spain, and Scotland. In the US they are all called white. Yet if all are in the same room, they would argue they are different. Not just ethnicity but genetically.

Edit: words

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u/AnHonestConvert White May 30 '25

I understand that there are edge cases and times where the descriptor isn’t totally accurate, but I can tell you that the current ideologues who don’t like White people are not having difficulty determining who is White.

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u/FortunateHominid May 30 '25

I understand that there are edge cases and times where the descriptor isn’t totally accurate,

I refer to those as edge cases. I'd say those are the norm.

That is, aside from the US which a good portion are a mix of many different ethnic groups.

but I can tell you that the current ideologues who don’t like White people are not having difficulty determining who is White.

Agree 100%. As a matter of fact, they will even alter the criteria based on what narrative is desired. Hispanics can be grouped in as white in one dataset, yet separated in another.

Even on an individual level in high profile news stories. Take a mixed-race individual (hispanic/white or black/white). What group they use as an identifier while reporting will change based on the narrative they want to push/support.

Those are the reasons I used quotes with the term white. It's becoming subjective at this point. Especially in US politics and news.

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u/UserNameN0tWitty May 31 '25

Hispanic/White: 1600 on the SATs = Hispanic

Hispanic/White: crime reporting = White

Black/White: 1600 on the SATs = black

Black/White: crime reporting = dark skinned White

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u/AnHonestConvert White May 30 '25

I understand but I don’t think trying to parse out ethnicity from race is going to help any. The System doesn’t care if I identify as German and you identify as Polish (or whatever). I’m White, and Whiteness is a real thing even if people try to monkey around with the definition. I mean, shitlibs will change the definition of any word for an advantage.

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u/MachineMan718 Jun 02 '25

The concept of white being all pale Europeans is a relatively recent concept. It used to be just the English (and Scots, sometimes) were “white”. 

Irish were excluded from that list, as well as Welsh, Italians, and Slavs.

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u/AnHonestConvert White Jun 02 '25

By recent you mean since the 1700s?

That doesn’t invalidate the identity, anyway.

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u/MachineMan718 Jun 02 '25

Irish were considered separate from “the white race” well into the early 20th century.

And yes, 1700s is recent compared to the many thousands of years of tribalism.