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[SPOILERS] Post AEW Forbidden Door Match Discussion: The Hurt Syndicate (c) vs. Brodido vs. FTR for the AEW World Tag Team Championship Spoiler

Brodido are YOUR NEW CHAMPIONS!

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u/Big_Contribution_791 3d ago

Hurt Syndicate really didn't want to take the pin huh

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u/JorSimpson45 3d ago

The final shot of Shelton just being escorted to the back was funny

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u/NekoJack420 3d ago

*Lashley. People say the Hurt syndicate but Shelton was pinned 3 times already, so he is at least cooperative.

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u/Draw-Two-Cards 3d ago

Yeah same shit with Malakai, They'll deny it and complain about dirtsheets but somehow the match results always support it, Even gimmick matches used to avoid pins.

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u/Gerry-Mandarin 3d ago

Same thing with Edge. "He doesn't book the matches". Kinda weird he hasn't lost a feud clean since his return nearly 6 years ago, though!

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u/Kanenums88 3d ago

I honestly don’t buy it, as much as I think his second run has been a general disappointment. It’s just Edge at the end of the day. A legend no doubt, but he’s not a legend like Stone Cold or The Rock that’d be believable, but Edge isn’t enough of a draw to warrant giving him that much creative control.

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u/XiahouMao 2d ago

But they aren't giving him creative control, they've just been booking him to win matches.

Lest we forget, Edge did get stacked and pinned along with Bryan by Roman Reigns at Wrestlemania. If creative control was at play, that could easily have been just Bryan being pinned.

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u/Kanenums88 2d ago

Well that is the thing people suggest. “Adam Hogan” everyone who goes over a ton is a “Hogan”, but the issue with Hogan is he had the creative control to politic.

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u/OjamasOfTomorrow 3d ago

You guys are so weird assuming this shit and calling someone ego driven based on nothing. He has zero drama in the dirt sheets around him when it comes winning/losing like guys like Miro and Malakai.

It’s almost like Edge is a big star and so valuable that both WWE and AEW have booked him like so.

This sub is embarrassing with shit like this. Making up your own shit and believing it to fit your narrative just because you dislike how someone is booked is weird.

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u/Trumppered 2d ago

It's also worth mentioning you can put people over without eating a pin to them and there's maybe no better example of that then Edge.

The entire Judgment Day launched into superstardom at Edge's expense.

FTR's current fantastic heel run got launched at Edge's expense.

But we're supposed to think he's selfish because he didn't eat a pin from Kip Sabian in his reunion match with Christian lol

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u/RegardTyreekHill 2d ago

Right lol speaking so matter of fact like they were in the room with Edge and the Hurt Syndicate when the decision was made. Very bizarre

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u/Zestyclose-Fee6719 1d ago

Yeah, it's called protecting someone. It's like some fans have gotten so used to 50/50 booking from WWE over the last ten-twenty years that they suspect foul play when someone is kept strong.

Has Kenny Omega put anyone over clean since coming back from diverticulitis? He's won matches against Gabe Kidd, Takeshita, Ricochet and Mike Bailey, and The Death Riders. He's one of a very small list of guys to get even just a visual pinfall over Okada in AEW.

Is that because Kenny is a terror who refuses to lose, or is that because it's Kenny fucking Omega who is more over than most of the roster and is being kept strong by a smart booker in Tony Khan? I'd say it's pretty obviously the latter.

This isn't 2003 WWE with Triple H. Adam isn't burying anyone. He's been a huge catalyst of reheating FTR with a heel turn/injury angle. Besides that, he's barely actually beaten anyone major on the AEW roster because he's been feuding with Christian for a lot of his run.

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u/SwimmingAd4160 2d ago

If you include pre retirement it's almost 15 cause he also rarely took pins during his 2009-2010 face run.

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u/FalconIMGN 2d ago

2010-11 you mean?

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u/Kaprak I AM VANDAMABLE! 3d ago

Well he did break his foot causing the plans that have seen him losing to be derailed.

Plus iirc he tore an oblique in WWE

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u/Gerry-Mandarin 3d ago

Edge hasn't lost a single feud clean since 2020. He's faced Randy Orton in the lead to being WWE Champion, Seth Rollins, Roman Reigns as WWE Champion (multiple times), Bryan Danielson, AJ Styles, Finn Balor, and Jon Moxley as AEW Champion.

Not one of them got put over clean in a feud. Even on the two/three occasions Edge has lost a match clean, he'd always get his wins back and won the feud.

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u/redskinsguy 2d ago

here's a secret for you. I don't actually enjoy watching legends lose

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u/Taswelltoo Goldust mark. 2d ago

Here's a secret for you: When legends don't put over new talent you make it almost impossible for said talent to get over. This is part of why the New Generation had such trouble taking off, and considering were talking about fucking Edge of all people who would be nothing but a permanent tag team guy without having gone over Foley in 2005 you'd think he'd be more aware of that fact.

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u/Wubblz 3d ago

Malakai's argument was that he was supposed to be the final boss of his stable and should be kept out of singles matches unless they're special, not that he wouldn't do a job.

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u/Anderrrrr An Irrelevant Smark. 3d ago

Really shocked FTR took the pin.

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u/Mr_Know_It_All0408 3d ago

I’m not. They haven’t ever been to full of themselves to act that way

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u/Anderrrrr An Irrelevant Smark. 3d ago

Not in regards personally, just because the momentum they had turning heel earlier this year.

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u/gravejello 3d ago

Yeah I thought it was obvious they would win and then drop the belts to E & C but I guess it’s just a non title feud

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u/DaleyT bang bang 2d ago

That feud doesn’t need to be for the belts since it’s a grudge. They can chase the belts after getting revenge.

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u/gravejello 2d ago

Yeah that’s what’s best for the tag division but I think everyone assumed they would win the belts in Canada

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u/East-Weird824 2d ago

You know,you might be right. E&C dont really need the belts and its not like they are going to defend them often even if they get them from FTR. This was all just assumed. Its cool Brody and Bandido clicked but I was looking forward to a big feud with FTR and the Syndicate and it just did not hit. Its was a stop gap to get to E&C and they put the belts on Brodido.

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u/QuiGonJinnNJuice 2d ago

I mean, they're still doing excellent work. They've got a main event feud cooking with Copeland and Christian, and Brodido is super exciting, super over, and a really hot act that's come together. I don't think this really hurts FTR's momentum in any sort of medium term scenario. IMO It helps to provide more depth and life to the tag division that badly needs it

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u/TeamZiggler COWBOY ISH 3d ago

You shouldn’t be. They haven’t been like that ever in their career. Besides, they’re taking the titles soon anyways. No chance Cope & Christian vs. FTR isn’t for the titles.

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u/McAllisterFawkes has been drinking 3d ago

I'm not at all surprised that FTR agreed to take the pin, but like the above poster I'm surprised that they were asked today, I thought we were building to FTR vs Cope & Christian for the titles.

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u/Trumppered 2d ago

No chance Cope & Christian vs. FTR isn’t for the titles.

Strong disagree. Christian and Edge got back together to settle grudges; not chase titles

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u/XiahouMao 2d ago

It's a situation like Danielson, I feel, where they don't need the titles but it'd be nice to have them in the title lineage.

That could always come after they're done with FTR, though. There's still the match with the Young Bucks local talent that they'll want to do as well.

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u/Obi-wan_Jabroni Cowboy Shiznit 2d ago

Rod and Todd Jones ovah here

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u/DaleyT bang bang 2d ago

I get the impression FTR just wanted the belts away from HS, it’s pretty clear Dax has been the leaker lol

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u/East-Weird824 2d ago

I was suprised to but the goal was to get the belts off Bobby and Shelton but onto FTR for Copeland and Christian. Maybe to just prolong things?

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u/tdmatchasin 3d ago edited 3d ago

I don't know what you do about this if you're AEW/TK, but I don't blame them for trying.

You don't want to give in to the talent making politicking demands like that. At the same time, you should be willing to give 'transfers' a chance. Samoa Joe has been amazing in AEW and was willing to do business from time to time. Claudio as well. Even Shelton was fine before Bobby/MVP got wrapped up with his status.

At this point I wouldn't mind HS getting time off TV even though by all means they do pretty good business. Yeah they're draws. Yeah they get tons of attention on youtube & socials and what-not. But not taking a pin for Brody King when your tag team is basically an average of 50 years old? Fuck outta here.

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u/luckysharms93 3d ago

Especially since they apparently "wanted to wait to put over a top young team". Then they don't put over the most pushed young babyface team in JetSpeed and then do the same thing with the next most pushed babyface team in Brodido. I love watching them but if they won't do business, then get Bobby and MVP out of the company, cuz Shelton was taking plenty of losses before they showed up and convinced him he's too good to take pins from AEW guys

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u/Borktista everybody has a price 3d ago

It’s pretty clear they wanna put over GoA. MVP loves them. Hence why they were the ones to attack them. They will put them over and be out of AEW

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u/Specialist-Rope-9760 2d ago

I don’t think it’s an accident they were the ones to win and Hurt Business still didn’t take the pin.

TK has put the correct narrative out there. I wouldn’t be surprised if we don’t see them on TV again

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u/Basic_Mark_1719 3d ago

Jetspeed is not over at all despite the push. But Brodido is over and they are both big strong dudes. HS not wanting to do business for them should be the nail in the coffin for them. Cut them and let them go back to WWE to do jobs for the vision.

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u/Trumppered 2d ago edited 2d ago

Cut them and let them go back to WWE to do jobs for the vision.

jesus you guys are emotional lunatics lol

You want to cut 1 of the hottest acts in the company because... they didn't lose in the exact manner you wished they would lose...?

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u/Basic_Mark_1719 2d ago

If you read my post history you'd see that I'm a big fan of Hurt Syndicate but refusing to do jobs over and over again is just unprofessional. I even agreed with them not wanting to do a job to jetspeed and the bucks. But Jesus Christ having them do a triple threat match to get the titles off of them without getting pinned is nuts.

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u/Yeangster 2d ago

That sub that shall not be named with the yellow icon is out of pocket 95% of the time, but they do have a point that some people here are just delusional and insufferable

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u/Top_Vermicelli1739 2d ago

I don’t think WWE wants them back my friend.

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u/Basic_Mark_1719 2d ago

Exactly. These two have no leverage and are in the point of their careers where it's no longer about them but about the younger guys. I understand not wanting to put over Jetspeed, but not wanting to put over FTR and Brodido is unacceptable.

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u/JimmyNewcleus 2d ago

How do you know for sure they were unwilling to put them over? Just going on speculation man lol.

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u/Basic_Mark_1719 2d ago

Because FTR can't help but leak shit to the dirt sheets and after what happened at all out it's hard not to believe them.

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u/East-Weird824 2d ago

We just dont know what is the true here. They dont want to put over Jetspeed but want to put over younger guys. But are not willing to take a pin to Brodido who are over and not "old guys" and are clearly over. And whats their beef with FTR? I highly doubt they can actually have one. But maybe Tony just has truly terrible booking and cant make up his mind.

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u/Charles0723 3d ago

You book them to take the pin or get them out of there.

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u/East-Weird824 2d ago

I say you may disagree with creative and the booker or may try to talk them into something else but if they want to to eat a pin then you do it.

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u/DanUnbreakable 3d ago

I got a feeling they will be benched

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u/East-Weird824 2d ago

Lashley and Shelton? No way. Tony paid a shitton for Lashley and they are over. They look to be moving on to Ricochet and GOA and maybe Bobby with MJF.

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u/FoolyCoolyBrandy 3d ago

There's a reason he hasn't picked up any of the WWE releases.

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u/East-Weird824 2d ago

The Hurts and a fantastic tag team and are well recieved by fans reguardless of age by fans. I do think if Tony wants they to drop the belts then they do it. I do think Bobby needs to do singles matches more and especially now with Ospreay and Swerve out. Plus MVP made it clear Bobby had eyes on MJF. I dont think MJF vs Brisco is that compelling. I would think MVP,Bobby and Lashley would be cool with dropping the belts to either team considering their in ring talent especially FTR. Plus its not like they cant get those titles back down the line. Shelton could go for the TNT tile or something. The finish of the match was weak. Having other guys take a pin so you dont look bad is a thing in the business. I dont get it. It needs to die. They work together. Its pre determined. They trade wins and losses. These guys gotta get their egos in check.

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u/JMehoffAndICoomhardt 2d ago

Release them and tell every WWE guy you sign that they take 10 pins before they even get a single win.

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u/princepersona1 2d ago

This is why none of you nerds should never book. Think back to Lashley's promo about going after MJF. He's going to pivot to singles and they want to keep him a strong monster. So that when his first lost happens, persumably to MJF, maybe even Ricochet or somone else, it has significance. You just want to see your favorites put iver for the sake of putting them over

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u/AdGroundbreaking1341 2d ago

I'm hoping it's just to set up a a one-on-one with Brodido. The classic "you may have won the belts, but you never pinned us." But yeah, they probably just didn't wanna take the pin.

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u/WaffleShoresy 3d ago

FTR is maybe one thing, but given how they regularly buried the shit out of people, they really should’ve taken the pin for a new team like Brodido

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u/luckysharms93 3d ago

FTR have regularly lost. They've put over Starks and Bill for the titles, lost to the Kingdom, King's of the Black Throne etc, made the Outrunners look like a million bucks and now putting Brodido over

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u/Bosscharacter 3d ago

Also put over The Gunns who prior to that were looked at as nothing but jokes.

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u/ThisIsKhrox 2d ago

I think when he said "they regularly buried the shit out of people" he was talking about Hurt Syndicate. Given how they absolutely buried Bryan Keith, kind of did JetSpeed dirty as well. There was no shot Outrunners were winning the AEW titles, so that one was fine.

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u/LosAngeles1s 3d ago

really funny how many people were trying to discredit that when MVP did the blog with Speedball

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u/dogsontreadmills 3d ago

Didn’t MVP/THS say in an interview who they were willing to lose the titles to? I remember GoA was on that very short list. Maybe that’s why they attacked. Kicking off a program.

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u/RusserStinky 3d ago

I gotta respect it. Real wrestling mindset. Look beast. Be extremely over. Don’t take pins. Profit.

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u/QuiGonJinnNJuice 2d ago

real graps

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u/East-Weird824 2d ago

I see what you mean but that can get you benched and not put on TV. If true its one thing of MVP to put his foot down as hes pretty much retires from in ring action. He can go and do mic work elsewhere. Bobby and Shelton will get booked poorly or not used at all. Plus if and if this is all true this stuff will follow MVP.

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u/Rah_Rah_RU_Rah 3d ago

most of the best ever politicked

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u/JMehoffAndICoomhardt 2d ago

I hope it wasn't them refusing but if this was an issue they should just release them. No more of these WWE dorks who think they are too good for AEW.

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u/peachesgp 2d ago

Generally on a title change in a 3 way match, it's not the champ that gets pinned. Its basically a free story.