r/Stargate • u/OkAd1097 • 20h ago
So let’s talk about SGA for a sec
Do you guys skip any episodes of SGA personally not many but sometimes I skip Lucius episodes because well I don’t think I have to explain.
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u/Phonic-Frog 20h ago
I always skip the Lucius episodes. Love the actor, hate the character.
The episode where they're mimicking a CSI episode gets skipped every time.
The episode where McCay is getting progressively dumber gets skipped sometimes. I'm watching my mom go through something similar, and it's just too hard sometimes.
Think that's it.
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u/raknor88 16h ago edited 16h ago
The episode where McCay is getting progressively dumber gets skipped sometimes. I'm watching my mom go through something similar, and it's just too hard sometimes.
That's an amazing episode. But I can easily see why it's on some people's skip list. It hits a little too close to home.
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u/NickCollins91 7h ago
the episode where they’re mimicking a CSI episode gets skipped every time?
Do you meant 5x19? Because if so I think that’s actually a pretty decent episode, especially as it leads into the finale
Don’t get me wrong, if you’re an avid SGA watcher then you obviously don’t need to watch Ep 19 to understand the finale, and I admit it’s not their best episode, but still fun to watch
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u/Phonic-Frog 47m ago
Do you meant 5x19?
Yes, I mean that episode. I don't watch SGA to see yet another CSI ripoff; I watch SGA to see SGA. I want to see aliens, and spaceships, and gate travel, and those characters dealing with those things.
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u/-braquo- 5h ago
I love the CSI episode. It's interesting. Fun to see our characters from a different universe. And the soundtrack for that episode is great.
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u/Prestigious_Equal412 3h ago edited 3h ago
A couple years ago a coworker dropped some equipment on my head, and I started having neurological issues that, among other things, just absolutely obliterates my ability to think and focus. I was certainly nowhere near Rodney’s intelligence ofc, but I always fit squarely in the “gifted kid to burnout” pipeline, so I’m used having power under the hood, if that makes sense. After my accident I couldn’t do tasks as simple as 2-step, double digit, addition/subtraction only math problems, or remembering how to make coffee.
I remember the first time I saw that episode after the accident. I ugly cried so hard. He does an amazing job of channeling that sense of… terror that comes from your own mind betraying you. Losing who you were, the things you saw as integral to who you are. The feeling of becoming a burden to the people who care about you.
I’ve been doing a lot of rehab and therapy, and it’s gotten/getting better to a point, but it’s been 22 months, and even thinking about that episode enough to write this still makes me cry with the ugly tears and everything.
I usually don’t skip it though, and I don’t actually understand why. Kind of like watching a very personally relatable train wreck.
My condolences on the loss/trauma you’re experiencing. I can’t even wrap my head around which would be harder; to watch it or to live it. Sending lots of love and e-hugs, and hope for the best for both of you
Edited to add: I also realize I’m lucky enough to have hope of recovery, and want to take a moment to acknowledge that, so that I’m not being insensitive by pointing out the parallels without considering that difference, if your mom is dealing with a progressive/chronic issue
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u/Greedyspree 20h ago
Crap, I did not even notice that until I just read his name now. He is Dr. Gary Meyers from the original 1994 movie.
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u/ZeeHedgehog 19h ago edited 18h ago
I think the Athar episode is one of the worst episodes in all of Stargate. "Sanctuary" I believe
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u/DomWeasel 13h ago
I don't skip the whole episode, I fast-forward in places, but God I hate the 'Ancient being who falls in love with a mortal man for a day' plot.
... Pretty much sums up while I could never like New Doctor Who...
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u/chriczko 17h ago
Love Richard Kind, hate Lucius. Love Tayla, hate the Athosian storylines. No disrespect. Not a huge fan of the Satedan episodes either to be honest. Rewatching again so I'm sure I'll remember more lol
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u/Crescent-moo 20h ago
I don't rewatch often so i just go through. Maybe I'll be on my phone more if I'm uninterested lol
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u/ButterscotchPast4812 19h ago
sometimes I skip Lucius episodes because well I don’t think I have to explain.
Hahaha yes. Lucius is like SG1'S Pete but worse.
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u/throwaway4826462810 19h ago
How????? If anything, he is SGA's Vala.
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u/Nero_XX 19h ago
Don't you mean SGA's Hathor, what with the drugging and forced copulation?
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u/throwaway4826462810 18h ago
No, he is straight up just a less annoying Vala
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u/Nero_XX 18h ago
Vala would make sexually suggestive comments and unwanted sexual advances, but I don't remember her using a drug to force a bunch of men to be her husbands against their will.
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u/throwaway4826462810 16h ago
She tried to rape Daniel Jackson. She had her hands all over Teal'c. She's a con artist that the base let roam around all willy nilly. You are focused on one aspect while igboring all of the similarities.
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u/Nero_XX 15h ago edited 15h ago
When did she try to do that to Jackson?
The reason I and others focus on that "one aspect" Of Lucius' character is because it elevates him from a pest/nuisance/con artist to a full on predator and that makes it hard to view him as the humorous rascal the show tries to present him as. It would be one thing if the show acknowledged how horrendous what he did was and dealt with the impact that behavior had on others, but instead they leaned into a tired trope meant to appeal to frustrated teenage boys.
Sg-1 did sometimes try to do that with Vala, who is more pest than predator, like when Jackson would confront her over her sexually aggressive behavior being a mask for trauma or during her trial in season 9's "The Powers That Be" when she was made to come clean about exploiting Qetesh's former followers for her personal benefit. It also showed her trying to improve herself. Despite that, plenty of people do not like Vala's character and saying she shouldn't have been trusted or her behavior forgiven is a totally valid view to hold.
There are also certainly similarities between their characters. They're both con artists and they both tried to take over a ship or installation from Earth, but Lucius is an actual sexual predator who has no remorse for his actions and suffered no real consequences other than the loss of the control, power, and influence that he used a drug to obtain. Additionally, he likely would've added some members of Atlantis expedition to his harem and continued to compel other members to put their lives in danger for his benefit had he successfully taken over Atlantis long-term. Vala took great steps to avoid seriously hurting anyone when commandeered the Prometheus.
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u/throwaway4826462810 14h ago
Prometheus Unbound
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u/Nero_XX 12h ago
Nothing like that happened in "Prometheus Unbound." What scene are you thinking of?
There's a moment where Vala approached Jackson while still in the suit and weirded him out by saying he's very attractive through her masculine sounding voice modulator. However, she then removed her helmet and told him she won't hurt him (much) while standing a couple feet in front him. After cutting for commercial, we see Vala removing her armor and telling Jackson that she wanted to send a subspace communication.
In their next scene together, she tried to carrot and stick him to get the information she wanted. First she gave him a minor flesh wound. Then she healed him and put on a sweet/flirty act to make him think she was romantically interested in him. When he reiterated that he didn't know the code, she walked away to mess with the navigation system.
Next scene together: Jackson confronted Vala after managing to get free. The two get into a physical fight, Vala kissed Jackson after knocking him to the ground with a kick, Jackson called her a fruitcake, Vala headbutted him and immediately went back to working on the ship, thinking Jackson was out for the count only to get Zatted.
From that point until she escaped, Vala was at his mercy or they were both working together to escape the planet.
Vala didn't touch Jackson when flirting with him in the suit, the carrot part of the carrot/stick scene was a put on that ended when Jackson didn't give her the information she wanted, and while she did make out with him, that was a prelude to a headbutt and did not lead to her trying to have her way with him.
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u/throwaway4826462810 12h ago
Rewatch the episode. Vala is a total creep. Physically, sexually, and verbally abusive. It's fucked up.
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u/feedtheflames 18h ago
I don’t skip anything because I so rarely rewatch. If I did it would probably be the one where Sheppard turns into the bug creature or anything else similarly as gross (can’t think of anything off the top of my head).
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u/Peliguitarcovers 8h ago
Just Harmony. Im sorry but its unwatchable for me, and not worth it for the last 5 seconds... which are funny.
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u/Skaman1978 20h ago
Ralph Fines is a great actor, I like him, but having him as the center stage is just.... IDK.
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u/deelectrified 20h ago
He is a great actor, which is why when he plays a smarmy creep, it makes you feel like you’re around a smarmy creep
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u/Skaman1978 20h ago
And he does great voice work. His voice works great for the nervous dupeler in lower decks
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u/Not_An_Egg_Man 19h ago
Tuttle in American Dad, too. Never realised it was him until the past couple of years.
On the other hand, he played a one-off character in an episode of Family Guy that was drawn to look as much like him as FG's art style allows and I recognised him right away.
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u/marksman1023 18h ago
Anything Lucius. Except for the episode where Shephard straight up high noons Kolya, I skip around that one.
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u/DomWeasel 13h ago
That really annoys me, that Kolya goes out in an L.L episode...
And he was introduced beating the crap out of a bunch of younger fighters but in that episode; his uniform makes him look like an old fat Fidel Castro so no wonder he's slow on the draw.
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u/Sufficient_Display 17h ago
The Lucius episodes, and Sunday. Sunday is an episode I can only watch once.
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u/mykittyforprez 17h ago
I can watch Sunday but I can't watch Heroes. My last rewatch of SG1 I was determined to watch all the episodes - even the ones I usually skip, but I just couldn't do it.
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u/Jeepcanoe897 16h ago
I get the first one, but the second is the showdown with Kolya, and Lucian isn’t as heavily featured
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u/AdFree7304 14h ago
sga for me (in rewatches anyway) is the Sheppard and McKay Variety Hour. if an episode doesn't have those two doing their bit, it gets skipped.
i especially don't care for the ronan episodes, or teyla's thing (her abandoning her people then her attitude is infuriating)
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u/dmad2010 5h ago
Both SG1 and SGA are great shows. Sadly, there are plenty of filler episodes that do not move the plot anywhere, and I feel the show would be better without them or I'd rather have some additional side plot story to develop instead of multiple small not connected stories:)
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u/MonarchGodzillaTitan 4h ago
I skip a dozen episodes.
The Lucius episodes.
Harmony.
Trio.
Aside from Search and Rescue, any episode with Kanaan.
The Long Goodbye.
The Game.
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u/UsualFirefighter9 18h ago
It'd be easier to say what I actually watch, especially in the later seasons.
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u/janeway170 20h ago
Mainly teyla episodes. I love her but her episodes are just not my thing