So shouldn't the Borg be the ultimate weapon against evil?

[u/Ilmara]

If hybridization of only three species effectively makes you the Chosen One because "something something epigenetics" (which makes zero sense since Trek has always been full of interspecies hybrids) then shouldn't a force that is able to assimilate the "biological distinctiveness" of just about every species they come across be the Vezdas' final boss?

Did anyone in the writers' room think this episode through?

[u/SpaceCrucader]

Or Dal R'El. Ooooh, that's actually pretty cool if Prodigy ever gets renewed.

The Borg don't hybridize, they get into a hive-mind. Might be not the same.

[u/cash-or-reddit → u/SpaceCrucader]

I think that's a good point about the Borg. They are a collective, and even if the full hive mind incorporates all species' knowledge, the individual drones all still work off of distinctive base models.

[u/freylaverse → u/cash-or-reddit]

I always wished they hadn't retconned the idea of biological (non-assimilatory) Borg reproduction. Partly because "adding your biological distinctiveness" works better if it isn't lost when that individual drone dies, and partly because they could keep their numbers up if they have to travel a long distance where they don't expect to find any civilizations worthy of assimilation. They wouldn't even need to imply the drones have sex (although that is an... interesting mental image), they could use artificial insemination and artificial wombs.

I suppose they SORT OF did Borg reproduction with ST: PIC, but uhh... Idk, not quite what I had in mind I guess.

[u/droid327]

Also, if Human + Illyrian + Gorn = ultimate space paladin...then doesnt that imply those three species have a unique and special history of fighting cosmic evil?

I mean if it just took having genes from any three humanoid species, then I'm sure there's six or seven crewmen on Enterprise alone with open-minded grandparents who would have worked just as well

[u/Tx_Drewdad]

No, it was just a way to get Batel out of the way.

With the WORST technobabble/space magic.

[u/Working-Following216 → u/Tx_Drewdad]

The show is suggesting in many ways that it’s not just Pike whose destiny is important to Trek future playing out as we know it. It’s Spock.Kirk too. There’s a descendant of Khan in the cast. We see now that the solution to the mystery around Batel this season is that she too is part of this group as she grapples with the abrupt revelation that she faces a tragic fate similar to the one hanging over Pike’s head — and hers is happening now — and she doesn’t hesitate. Her example will be important for him going forward into his own destiny. (And Spock into his in TWOK.) The season also ends up being the secret origin for the part of space Kirk’s Enterprise will explore in its 5 Year Mission, in particular with regard to the seemingly disproportionate number of godlike aliens from that region who quaintly still keep an eye on their home worlds later encountered in TOS — the origin of the Q & Trelayne specifically. (Who knew we met him as a baby on voyager?) And what else is the mission statement of a prequel but to elaborately set the stage for the main event? Bottom line: I enjoyed every episode this season.

[u/YYZYYC → u/Tx_Drewdad]

A phaser on disintegrate works better. So does a fatal transporter accident. OR she could have just you know, transferred and broke up with Pike:..🤷‍♂️

[u/TrekFan1701 → u/YYZYYC]

Except for Burnham and Freeman, I don't think any of our captains end on a happy relationship. Sisko does marry Kassidy, but of course he disappeared in the finale.

[u/YYZYYC → u/TrekFan1701]

I honestly don’t care about relationships all that much. I miss Star Trek about science and plot driven episodes not character driven

[u/Grease2310 → u/YYZYYC]

Trek is at its best when it’s both. The issue is we’re in Trek’s Dawson’s Creek era and it’s not working.

[u/DLoIsHere → u/YYZYYC]

Yes. It’s enough with the soap opera.

[u/Catharus_ustulatus]

There is the mysterious whatever-it-is against which the Jurati Borg are standing guard.

[u/droid327]

Yeah that whole scene was extremely cringey hand-waving and "just accept it, audience" exposition

But no, the Borg dont bring biologies together synergistically like it was in Batel to create a new, emergent kind of being. They just have diversity.

[u/YYZYYC]

Only if they feel like they are done with their career of assimilation and are feeling a bit lost with their collective lives …and then this will call to them

[u/Remote_Literature_23]

Okay, but at that point they would've really been copying Picard, they already said "we have Jack Crusher's telepathic link at home", there's only so much they can get away with 

[u/MrZwink]

The vezda are just the path wraiths without the 7 season of build upthey had. What an anti-climax this episode...

[u/ArcaneCowboy]

They were the chosen ones!

[u/Ilmara → u/ArcaneCowboy]

They were supposed to bring balance to the Force, not leave it in darkness!

[u/lyidaValkris]

I think the easy answer to that is no, because the Borg take what they think is useful tech, and dump anything they think is useless like personality, individualism, culture, soul. They would be discarding the bits they need to be the ultimate weapon.

[u/sbvrsvpostpnk]

Ya that was real real stupid lol

[u/DelaneySister]

No because the Borg have zero interest in doing so.

[u/yekimevol]

Doomsday machine would handle it 😅