/r/incels has been banned. Discuss this happening here!

[u/TAKEitTOrCIRCLEJERK]

I'll fill this up with drama as it unfolds.

/r/drama thread

/r/subredditcancer thread, including an explicit entreaty for the former users to join the alt right for some reason?

One user advertised r/incelspurgatory in the thread you removed. Admins were already on point, because they've banned it just ~11 minutes ago. Sub lasted about 10 hours last I checked.

r/AgainstHateSubreddits thread

/r/MGTOW thread

/r/thebluepill thread

New sub: /r/IncelsWithoutHate

Meanwhile on Voat

Undelete thread

Circlebroke thread

[u/CupidsShame → u/[deleted]]

Careful with that "it's a numbers game" shit. They know that. Half of the incel problem is knowing that.

If you know it's just a numbers game, but you're really taking bad care of yourself and don't have the social skills, then you end up panhandling for sex. The numbers get much worse very quickly.

So what happens is that some small portion of the incels run the numbers game, succeed a few times, get confidence and turn into Pick-Up Artists (PUAs), and many of the rest of them run the numbers game and get increasingly isolated as they repeatedly fail and get less socially attractive with each string of failures. Others say "I know it's a numbers game, but if I have to try a thousand girls to find the one who's crazy or desperate enough to settle for me then what's the point" and sink further into depression.

The numbers game talk is a good way to encourage a normal person in a dry spell because there's a lot of truth to it... as long as you have the rest of your life together. For these people it's a toxic radicalizing influence.

EDIT: I'm disappointed in myself that I had to edit this in. It also makes the world horrible for women. If every creepy male is running a numbers game things get much, much worse. Telling creeps "just hit on hundreds of women, you'll be fine" is a recipe for yuck.

[u/CupidsShame → u/[deleted]]

It sounds like you're in the right mindset to be told that it's just a numbers game.

This is how society works right now. We're very busy trying to correct the behaviour of people who don't respond to stimulus X, so we ramp X up and up and up. The people who don't respond to X don't change, but the people who do respond to X are now getting this incredibly intense message and they swing way past where they should.

You're doing the right thing. Interacting with a lot of girls organically and sincerely is exactly the right approach. Nobody is oppressed by having somebody be genuinely interested in them as a human being.

[u/Player8 → u/CupidsShame]

Well thank you ha. I also understand that I'm not in a great position for a relationship at the moment anyway, so maybe I'll actively try once I get a better job and have my shit at least a little more together.