r/TacticalMedicine • u/Dad_a_Monk • 26d ago
Gear/IFAK Anyone heard of these guys?
Had anyone heard of Medresq? A friend just asked me about them, and I had no clue. Never seen their stuff before. They're on Amazon, but it gives off rebranded Rhino Rescue vibes...
Apparently they have a site.
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u/I17eed2change 26d ago
Don’t trust your life with cheap shit. Only buy proven brand medical equipment
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u/i56500 26d ago
Doesn’t matter what brand if you don’t know how to use it.
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u/Dad_a_Monk 24d ago
He knows, I taught him last year. Been a TCCC Instructor for over a decade. Retired cop.
I had never heard of these guys. I told him to stay away, but I was curious if anyone has heard of these guys. Their website is trying really hard to come off as a US based company....but I call BS.
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u/TexasDank 23d ago
Yeah medical company’s got it rough it’s nearly impossible to get your name out and gain the rep the few big names got. It’s quite interesting and unique how intense this is in the medical field.
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u/howawsm Medic/Corpsman 26d ago
A kit passing itself off as a “trauma kit” with not even a fake TQ in it? No thanks.
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u/Boowray 25d ago
Even worse, it looks like it has some sort of SOF-ish TQ that they didn’t want you to look at too closely behind the burn gel.
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u/Dad_a_Monk 24d ago
It's got one, they have it hidden behind the burn gel. Which makes it even more sus.
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u/i56500 26d ago
Tourneys are overused anyway.
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u/windoto 26d ago edited 26d ago
TLDR; I lightly disagree.
While I agree that they are used more than needed. (I’ve done this myself.) Rarely I’ve heard of lasting trauma or injury to the patient. Discomfort and pain yes. Lasting no. I have heard of under treating with high risk more than once.
I have earned my parachute wings. And one of the holy rules the school taught was: “Thou shall not criticise any person pulling the backup-chute. “ You can question the circumstances and reasons why to learn but never criticise. This because the action is your last reserve for a possible life treating situation. The question: “What does anyone think of my action” has no place in that situation.
In Iraq and Afghanistan troops died because the fear of overuse of tourniquets. Death dropped dramatically after issuing and widely using cats.
Edit: two rules that still apply (obviously). 1 only cat when bleeding doesn’t stop or is pulsating. 2 cat stretches time to preform life treating care. So break speeding laws and go to care
I live and work in territory where paramedics are no more than 30 min away and when needed mobile trauma churgens are no more than 45min away (if needed by helicopter). So this colours my opinion.
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u/DangerBrewin Firefighter 26d ago
Overuse of tourniquets isn’t a problem when access to trauma centers are within an hour or two. In the US, and in our recent wars in Iraq and Afghanistan, casevac is/was generally readily available and advanced medical care is within those timeframes. Unfortunately, we’ve been training the Ukrainians our old TQ habits. In a war where neither side has air superiority and most medical evacuations are done on the ground, the Ukrainians have seen the number of amputations from unnecessary TQ applications skyrocket.
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u/windoto 25d ago
On my latest refresher I was told 6-9hours. BUT then it needs to be handed down to a specialist churgin not a regular trauma group. *
Could be if there is no specialist facility or a mass casualty event this is not applicable. And maybe they do partial recovery like not the whole limb is lost but some muscles are removed because of degradation. **
*reference material said that < 2H has great chance of recovery of limb . > 2H muscle and nerve damage increases rapidly.
**Hearsay + my best undereducated guess.
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u/DangerBrewin Firefighter 25d ago
You also have to take into account that the longer the TQ is applied the more toxic the blood in the limb becomes, so at some point even if the limb is savable, removing the TQ with the limb intact will kill the patient.
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u/Remote_Individual161 25d ago
Read an interview with an author of tccc guidelines about ukr and tq overuse but can’t seem to find it anymore
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u/Jahaza 25d ago
I read about it in this paper in Military Medicine: https://doi.org/10.1093/milmed/usad503
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u/Remote_Individual161 24d ago
Thanks alot! He was definitely referring to this one Luckily i found it.
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u/grandma1995 26d ago
North American rescue literally has a website and they’ll ship whatever you order directly to your front door. Why are we even bothering with this other garbage
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u/ChainzawMan Law Enforcement 26d ago
Because people try to cut the cost on saving lives. Especially when they have no knowledge or experience on the topic.
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u/helloyesthisisgod EMS 26d ago
I just used one of my decompression needles on a pt the other day, and can’t get the website to clear me for ordering a new one. I had to end up ordering from Chinook medical.
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u/Rainbow-lite EMS 25d ago
Restock from work?
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u/helloyesthisisgod EMS 25d ago
They use these large kits from the hospital, with 3-way stopcock valves and some other accoutrements (so they don’t get legs and disappear). The ACRs are just easier to store and use IMO, so it’s a small loss I’m ok with incurring.
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u/Dad_a_Monk 24d ago
That's who I use, and Medline. Buddy found these guys in Amazing, trying to put together a cheap IFAK for his range bag. I had never seen or heard of these guys. Their website is a little sus too. They are trying really hard to come off as a US based company. At least Rhino admits they're Chinese. But I'm betting they are Rhino rebranded trying to look US based.
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u/ThurmanMurman907 26d ago
the fact that the burn gel is covering the TQ in the picture seems like a red flag to me...
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u/kim_dobrovolets Military (Non-Medical) 26d ago
Rhino rebrand or competitor? Call it
If it is a rebrand at least they are changing the name of the chinese company now lmao.
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u/ScoutClimer Medic/Corpsman 26d ago edited 25d ago
As a Medic i have a hard time recommending anyone buy specialized life saving equipment (i.e. TQ and quick clot type things) from anyone that is vetted or accredited. If you have the means to test this gear and put it through the ringer by all means.
And at the end of the day I also can't tell you how to spend your money and if you're willing ti die for this equipement, by all means use it FOR YOURSELF (readout won't reccomend on others) but again will have to highly recommend the NAR site. As for Nylon, basic gauze, occlusive dressing (especially since they're dumb simple to improvise) emergency blankets, buy away wherever
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u/mean_mistreater 26d ago
Looks like a mixup of Rhino Rescue and Norse Rescue. I think these two are also the same manufacturer working under different names...
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u/Todose 25d ago
Norse is rhino
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u/Dad_a_Monk 24d ago
That was my thought that it's rebranded Rhino crap. Didn't know that Rhino had other rebranded stuff. Their website is trying HARD to come off as a US based company. But I'm very skeptical. At least Rhino admits up front they're Chinese.
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u/bkelley0607 EMS 25d ago
Just buy from NAR
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u/Dad_a_Monk 24d ago
They've been my go to for years, then and Medline. I thought about Rhino's splint kit a while back, but didn't even think it was worth the risk. Just ended up sticking with SAMs.
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u/Ranger_Willl 25d ago
The only thing I'd consider using from this joint or RhinoRescue etc are the bandages or splint
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u/VapingIsMorallyWrong MD/PA/RN 24d ago
Their NPAs are so uselessly fucking rigid so don't buy those
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u/lefthandedgypsy TEMS 23d ago
Stop buying cheap wannabe larp gear if you’re serious about medicine. Also not tacmed.
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u/ChainzawMan Law Enforcement 26d ago
Why not just look up what's recommended by the CoTCCC? They spend enough time to crack their heads on gathering and comparing data of products that are actually reliable.
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u/Dangerous-School2958 26d ago
If you buy one. Take out the tourniquet and try to break the windlass. That's how you'll know if it's trash or not.
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u/Living-Metal-9698 25d ago
Sounds repackaged for Jolly Vollies & struggling city departments. NAR for contents, 5.11 for the actual bag. I know a lot of LEOs & Tac-Medics have personal trauma kits outside of what is department issued. My brother is a PO & when he asked me about this, I said, “As your older brother. Don’t put yourself in a situation where you need to use this. But as a Paramedic, do you want to regret saving $50.”
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u/Dad_a_Monk 24d ago
I use NAR and Medline. My friend was trying to put together a cheap IFAK for his range bag. Asked me about this, he found it on Amazon. I had never heard of these guys...just wondering if anyone had heard of them.
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u/Living-Metal-9698 24d ago
I have no knowledge of this brand but everything about this screams cheap quality.
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u/Dad_a_Monk 24d ago
Definitely. I'm more concerned with them being a complete scam. Their site claims use in the LA fires. I have buddies with LAPD & LAFD and they said they've never heard of them. The site is trying too hard to look US based but no actual info on where their company is located.
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u/Living-Metal-9698 24d ago
I love how companies put absurd lies on their website to appear legit & it’s something that is so easily disproven
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u/Pirat_fred 21d ago
I use this stuff (Rhino and Rebrand Rhino) for my MilSim IFAK, but always have a real IFAK close.
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u/MedicKinda_ EMS 26d ago
Yeah I’ve seen ‘em floating around. Packaging and kit layout scream budget tier rebrand wouldn’t be shocked if it’s straight from the same factory pumping out Rhino Rescue gear. That’s not automatically bad but here’s the rub cheap kits are like cheap parachutes. Most of it’ll work fine until the day you actually need it under stress that’s when bargain tourniquets snap, chest seals peel off, and “combat gauze” turns into regular rolled cotton.
To anyone reading this If you’re stocking a range bag or glovebox for everyday scrapes, buy it your own risk. If it’s for real deal trauma response? Buy once, cry once. Go with gear that’s TCCC recommended and field proven and recommended by experts in the field currently.