r/TeenWolf • u/readnrot_ • 4d ago
unpopular opinions about teen wolf that will have you like this:
rewatching the show and stanny still makes more sense to me than stydia..
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u/Juoreg Team Stiles 4d ago edited 3d ago
Kira and Malia would’ve been more interesting than Scott and Malia.
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u/Acceptable-Mousse-47 3d ago
Agreed. I thought they had a lot of chemistry during that dancing scene in Mexico
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u/AnubisMark70 4d ago
I like Scott and Kira together way more than Scott and Allison together
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u/Less-Requirement8641 Banshee 4d ago
It also helps that Kira isn't turning against Scott every 5 minutes. Nor does she hunt what Scott is.
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u/steferine 3d ago
Yeah its not like kids was born and being groomed into a family of werewolf hunters but of course let's not take big things like that into consideration
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u/Less-Requirement8641 Banshee 3d ago
She found out at 17. Before that sure she got training disguised as after school activities but she wasn't told anything about werewolves.
Also at 17 she saw a man get tortured then shot a guy she was dating, she eventually comes around before...turning against them again because now her grandad who she has never met said to. At least you can argue she trusts Kate so it was easy for Kate but the situation with Gérard was just stupid.
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u/w333ping_angel 4d ago
thought i was the only one! i was starting to convince myself that i’m just biased bcuz im also korean 💀
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u/onmyfifthcupofcoffee 4d ago
Peter did nothing wrong in the Deadpool arc. Meredith literally got away with murder because Scott & the Pack want to blame him for everything
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u/firebird0606 4d ago
The only thing he did wrong in season 4 was teaming up with Kate, this made absolutely no sense and I will die angry about it
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u/Zealousideal_Cod5214 4d ago
I agree. Peter was feeling a lot of rage and was thinking things. Which is a very normal thing to do, especially considering what had just happened. It's not his fault that Meredith happened to hear those thoughts and put them into motion.
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u/Mysterious_Walrus220 4d ago
Literally how are they blaming him for thinking things while he was in a coma. It makes no sense. That’s like being arrested for thinking about killing someone.
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u/Less-Requirement8641 Banshee 4d ago
Literally. He was in a coma and lost his entire family so was understandably a bit unhinged and angry.
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u/Abathur-is-best-Zerg 4d ago
I THINK the idea is he remembered that it was his near-coma ramblings, but did nothing about it?
I'd generally agree with you (though I like Meredith, and she is tragic), though. It was weak justification against Peter.
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u/Stoopid_Noah 4d ago
Noah Stilinski did not get enough screen time & he and Melissa McCall would've been a power couple..
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u/Katthekitkat2411 Team Stiles 4d ago
This. I hated Chris and Melissa. Besides, their kids dated and it’s just weird. I would’ve rather seen Scott and Stiles become true brothers. Besides, I think Noah and Melissa had way more chemistry than Melissa and Chris. Melissa and Chris was just so random.
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u/Gold_Stay2386 4d ago
When they have that small storyline that they never dove deeper into with another dating again I was really hoping it was Melissa! I was also sooo mad we never heard about the storyline again.
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u/Unusual-Emprezz 3d ago
Idk if you're aware but even the actors for Melissa and Noah said that in their head canon, their characters ended up together and Stiles was formally adopted as Scott's brother.
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u/Stoopid_Noah 2d ago
I did not know that, thank you!! <3
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u/Unusual-Emprezz 2d ago
I'm trying to find the clip, I feel like it might have been from their 2020 reunion but I'm not sure. I saw it around that time in an article.
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u/moody_s1ck0 Omega 4d ago
The show overuses conveniences and plot armor, to the point of being kinda annoying sometimes
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u/Nearby-Structure-739 Team Stiles 4d ago
Ik they went way too hard on it like at least try to make it somewhat believable
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u/Historical-Couple378 4d ago edited 4d ago
don't get me wrong, i love stiles but he was concerningly obsessed with lydia in season 1 and it was lowkey creepy. i'm currently rewatching since i was like 14 (i'm 20 now) and the fact that he knew her exact height and weight is odd. also, can we talk about how lydias mom let stiles in her bedroom while she was dr*gged up and wearing what looks like lingerie after seeing the "mountain lion" in the video store even though she clearly doesn't know him?? "honey there's a stiles here to see you" "what the hell is a stiles?". it's weird to me how stiles would go to lydias house, even though he knows she has no idea who he is, let her rub all over him because she thinks it's jackson, and why close the door?
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u/luchan101 2d ago
This. I mean overall the couple developed well, but since I was in from season 1 I just never saw them working and by the time they got together I was happy seeing them as platonic besties
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u/Lostinmyhead99 4d ago
A kamina like Jackson would have made it more interesting as a regular. Not with the pack but not with the enemies.
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u/ThisGul_LOL 4d ago
True. Why did he leave the show again?
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u/Delicious-Bat1805 3d ago
Colton said he was dealing with major anxiety and also being told by his management that he couldn’t come out as gay it would destroy his career.
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u/Hungry_Rub135 3d ago
I reckon it was Colton, he joined Arrow shortly after which I preferred him in
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u/Mean-Choice-2267 4d ago
Yeah. They could never convince me that Lydia would ever be attracted to Stiles.
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u/Mysterious-Ad4389 Team Malia 4d ago
THIS🙌🏽 even when Stydia finally get together we never see Lydia develop an attraction to Stiles, she only really starts appreciating how much he does/is willing to do for her. It’s my biggest issue with their relationship and makes their dynamic feel much more suited to a platonic friendship than a romantic relationship
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u/Less-Requirement8641 Banshee 4d ago
When you look at Lydia's love interests. Stiles is the odd one out. The rest are all muscular/alpha types.
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u/udownvotedme 4d ago
God forbid a girl grows up and realizes what shes really looking for. Someone who wouldnt ever hurt her, someone who loved her, someone who saw her actual self when others just saw how hot she was.
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u/thatoneurchin 4d ago
Tbh I hate when people don’t realize this because Lydia says aloud that her type has changed in S3. She told Aiden that she realized she didn’t want to be with a bad guy, and after that we never see her with a douchey alpha male again.
Even if people don’t like Stydia, it’s weird to me people don’t acknowledge Lydia growing and moving past asshole Jackson types
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u/bamby_and_the_boys 4d ago
I don't think people understand she showed signs of liking him from the start with little moments here and there but she was always getting with other guys because she was worried to be with him since he wasn't popular and she was terrified of losing her popularity
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u/TestSpiritual9829 2d ago
There were two Lydias, and Popular Lydia mostly drove the bus. But Smart Lydia always appreciated Stiles. I think I read a meta about this back in the day...
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u/Gold_Stay2386 4d ago
I always say she 'fell in love' with the saviour complex for her. Like he was always saving her and that's what it was. Not HIM but the concept of him saving her.
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u/chestyCough94 4d ago
The show was much better when the main focus was on werewolves. Having one or 2 additional supernatural creatures was fine (kanima and banshee in s2/ kitsune and darach in s3).
But once they starting adding more and more creatures it felt like the show didnt know what it wanted to be. So many creatures and by extension their plotlines were under developed and non sensical (example : desert wolf, werejaguar, wendigo etc)
It also didnt make sense to add all these creatures but not the werewolves main adversary- the vampire. I genuinely think they shouldve made a vampire the big bad for season 6.
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u/Nearby-Structure-739 Team Stiles 4d ago
I agree! When Kate was revealed as a werejaguar I just got mad lmao. Like who came up with ts.
I do however love that they didn’t add vampires cause it really separated it from the vampire diaries and both got to shine in their own ways. I def prefer tw without vampires but they had WAY too many creatures like wtf is a werelion that was so random
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u/KayKueen 4d ago
And we still don’t know who or what the guy with no mouth was in S4. We really went over that way too quickly 🙃
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u/Hungry_Rub135 3d ago
I did feel like they started off wanting to be like Vampire Diaries but then decided that they'd do horror instead
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u/queenaffections 1d ago
facts! which is why s1-3 are superior ‼️ the show really goes down him with s4 but ESPECIALLY s5 and s6
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u/Cross-eyedwerewolf Evolved Wolf 2d ago
The show's writers weren't the best (not even close), but if there's any decision I can respect them for, it's the decision to never include vampires.
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u/GuyPaddock 4d ago
Meredith's death was cheapened by her still being alive.
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u/GuyPaddock 1d ago
Like, legit, on first watch I felt really bad when she died and then when she was revealed to be still alive it felt so stupid.
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u/MyIdiotic_Comment Team Hayden 4d ago
For my unpopular opinion, Scott and Allison should have never been a couple
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u/Emaan865 4d ago
Yesss thank youu!!! I thought I was the only one😭
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u/Goddess_Sloan8 4d ago
Worse is Scott and Malia
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u/coffcaramel Team Derek 4d ago
it's like the writers want scott to always have a girlfriend in every season like whyyyy. it's okay for the main character to not have romantic interest y know 😔
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u/Sean_A25 3d ago
Funny enough I'd Malia was written for Scott originally in S3 Kira wasn't even meant to stay as long as she did
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u/Aggravating_Drink817 4d ago
Definitely not I've always said this especially as someone who watched it as it aired. It was weird on both their ends because of what we know about Malia developmentally (being stuck as a coyote had to have stunted her in many ways) and I'm pretty sure she's aware he knocked her out after they made out or whatever. As for Stiles he just shouldn't have been dating especially instantly after the Nogitsune, their relationship honestly just felt like trauma bonding trying to be romantized and it just felt all kinds of uncomfortable for me. And Scott dating her after felt out of nowhere and all kinds of weird because that's your-so-claimed-brother's ex girlfriend dude.
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u/Hobotronacus 4d ago
The entire show should have just been shirtless men. It could have even been plot relevant.
In my defense, I am only half joking.
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u/lmkast 4d ago
As a lesbian, I’d like to counter your proposal to include shirtless women as well.
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u/Hobotronacus 4d ago
I accept your proposal. After all, as queer people we must stand together in solidarity.
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u/Zealousideal_Elk5577 4d ago
So it would be like David Decoteau films, but with a somewhat better dialogue. Just under Renny Harlins The Covenant? I'd be down for that. Lol
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u/Dazzling-Film-5585 4d ago
Peter was the best villain. His backstory was interesting, his Morton’s made sense, he had chemistry with everyone, he was funny as fuck and genuinely creepy
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u/Bidoofisdaddy 4d ago edited 4d ago
All of these are not unpopular. Mine will be. You'll see. Isaac is an overrared character. His departure from the show did nothing. He was just Derek's beta who then went on to date Allison. That's it.
Edit: I guess this is more popular than I thought. Was ready for the downvotes.
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u/Zealousideal_Cod5214 4d ago
I liked Isaac during season 2, but season 3 kinda just felt forced with his thing with Allison, and he added nothing, so it was easy to not miss him when he was gone.
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u/katabasis180 4d ago
Spot on. If Stiles hadn’t been there to woobify, the fandom would have been all over him. The least interesting of Derek’s betas.
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u/RJSnea 4d ago
His departure from the show unfortunately meant we had to deal with him in "The Originals." 😮💨
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u/Zeo_Mikaelson765 4d ago
Nah. He was a way better Kol than the other piece of crap actor.
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u/Interesting-Smile471 4d ago
Gerard was a very interesting character and I wouldn’t mind if we saw a back story on him. He literally always seemed to know everything going on…oh also the show should’ve shifted focus from Scott’s pack, to Liam’s “pack” we see they begin setting this up in season five, with the introduction of Mason into the supernatural world, and the introduction of Cory and Hayden. Maybe they could occasionally get help or assistance from characters who aided Scott’s pack (Melissa, Chris, Deaton, and maybe VERY RARELY, but occasionally Scott or any of his pack members). It seemed like the show was going in this direction anyways and it would’ve been a much better way to continue the story than the movie did and better than season 6B did.
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u/readnrot_ 4d ago
i remember dylan sprayberry said that he wanted a spinoff (way before the movie was announced) with liam & mason and new werewolves in beacon hills, on gregg sulkin’s youtube channel but the video is deleted now.
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u/Ok_Variation7230 4d ago
We don't need a remake, sequel, prequel etc. No everything has to be a franchise
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u/Mobile_Status5498 3d ago
Kira was the best love interest for Scott but racism and misogyny from both the fans and production took her away from us.
Because what do you mean she wasn't told she wasn't coming back for season 6 until last minute? And they wouldn't bring her back for the movie because they wouldn't pay her equally???
Her character and family were amazing additions to the cast and story.
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u/shay_shaw 4d ago
Why do we like Jackson??? He's self serving at best and an abuser at worst. He came back in a relationship with Ethan and suddenly everything is fine??
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u/Aggravating_Drink817 4d ago
People like him??? His actor did an amazing job cause I've hated and stayed hating him since episode 1. Yeah his relationship with Ethan was weird because it felt literally out of nowhere and like it was obvious they wanted to another gay couple to keep the LGBTQ+ fans around because they have noo chemistry together what's so ever especially compared to when Ethan was with Danny.
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u/Mobile_Status5498 3d ago
Season 6B being about supernatural racism and the main villain being a black woman just didn't hit for me...
Maybe it's because I'm black but I'm kinda tired of the whole oppressed super special people trope where the oppressors are white pple and the oppressor is... A black person.
There's a whole episode in season 6B where a black woman is leading a lynch mob against white teenagers. That's wild.
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u/shimmertrapped 4d ago
seasons 1 & 2 are the best, people only say 3b is because of Void Stiles 😬 (i too love it for that reason lol but the first seasons are much stronger all around!)
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u/TestSpiritual9829 2d ago
Also, I HATED that they firehosed all of the new cast members at us instead of even Trying to develop the side characters they'd already established. Give us more Danny. Bring Harley or Danielle back. Tell us about Jordan. Put in some EFFORT.
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u/00royalpain00 1d ago
I agree! Liam, Mason,Theo and his whole crew felt like an overload of new characters replacing Danny, Boyd and Erica. I did end up loving Liam and Mason but it took me forever to care about Theo and the Chimeras and that was in the last season 😭
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u/oathcuunt 3d ago
Sterek built the fandom. People act like the ship doesn’t make any sense but you just had to be there when the show was actually airing. The cast talked about it in pretty much every interview because they knew it was what people wanted to hear about.
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u/TestSpiritual9829 2d ago
10000% accurate.
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u/oathcuunt 2d ago
I’m sick of people who watched the show post-2020s not getting “why” people shipped Sterek. Like, this was peak Destiel era, viewers were primed for queerbait and showrunners knew that’s what made a show popular. Of course fans shipped Sterek— they were supposed to! It dominated the discourse and was encouraged by the cast + Jeff! As a result all the most robust fanfiction, fan art, etc. was Sterek-centric. I’m not saying the show runners ever actually intended to make the relationship canon, but I am saying they intentionally capitalized off the ship. And honestly it was great, being on tumblr during the 2010s while the show was airing was like nothing else.
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u/onewomanstorm 2d ago
I dont ship Sterek 🤷🏻♀️ If I had to choose an m/m ship for Stiles Scott/Stiles or Isaac/Stiles are much more interesting to me, but i always preferred Stydia tbh (helps i had a huge bisexual crush on them both but they have a dynamic i always enjoy with my ships) I know the "het" ships aren't popular, but I liked them.
I do wish we had an f/f dynamic in the show. Malia/Allison is probably my crackiest femslash ship, but the reflection of them and a Scott/Kira relationship (my fave Scott pairing tbh) is most interesting to me.
Also, I prefer Noah over John for the name of Stiles' dad even tho fanon prefers John. (At least when I was more active in the fandom) I also prefer Noah/Melissa over Chris/Melissa, which was just weird to me.
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u/StrictLengthiness866 1d ago
You are me. I am you. Sciles is my favorite MM ship (besides Thiam) but if I had to, I’d have loved to have Scott end up with Kira out of all the girls. He helped her during a time when she didn’t even know who she really was and was never pressuring or really asked for anything in return. Their relationship felt the most natural out of all of them.
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u/ElvinEastling Nogitsune 4d ago
Stalia should have been endgame and was better than Stydia from the start.
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u/xCosm0s 4d ago
Im not a fan of Derek and Stiles shippers.
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u/evieeeeeeeeeeeeeee Hale Pack 4d ago
not being a fan of a ship is valid but not being a fan of shippers is bizarre, they don't exist to be liked, they have nothing to do with the actual show, and they aren't a monolith
i don't ship scallison for example, but scallison shippers are all individuals with different interpretations of the show and whatever enjoyment they get out of it has no impact on me
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u/shay_shaw 4d ago
No I'm not a fan either, I find the shippers to be annoying and weirdly insistent on a ship that was never going to happen despite the strong implication that Stiles was bisexual.
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u/evieeeeeeeeeeeeeee Hale Pack 3d ago
but thats still acting as though all people who like a ship are a monolith, by that logic all stydia shippers are fatphobic because of the subsection of stydia shippers who bullied shelley hennig, all scallison shippers are racist because of the group who said vile things about kira & arden cho, and i could pull a similar example for every ship
i also don't really get what the second half of your comment means as it seems to contradict the first half, yes it was hinted at repeatedly that stiles is bisexual... that would be a plus for anyone who ships stiles & any of the other guys on the show
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u/Gold_Stay2386 4d ago
Scott being a 'true alpha' is literally the stupidest plot imo.
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u/Mayfinder_1 True Alpha 3d ago edited 3d ago
Hey bud, I put in my opinion. You're welcome to your own ♥️
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u/Gold_Stay2386 3d ago
Hey bud, I put in my opinion. You're welcome to your own ♥️
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u/TestSpiritual9829 2d ago
YESSSSS. Just underpants on head, over-the-rainbow, bananas-bonkers. WORST.
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u/BigApple2247 4d ago
The dread doctors storyline was not nearly as bad as a lot of people make it out to be.
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u/ohheyitslaila Team Deucalion 3d ago
Peter’s a more interesting and better character than Derek.
I said what I said 😂
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u/Franky106789 3d ago
I think Stiles and Stydia in season 6A was overall pretty great, but the build-up up to it had barely anything, and the relationship in season 6A was undeserved. Even after the stuff we got in season 6A, it still felt weird by the end when Scott and Malia both failed at bringing Stiles back, but Lydia did because they were apparently the closest despite Scott and Malia both having a stronger relationship than Lydia.
In terms of romance, Stiles and Malia in seasons 3 and 4 were done better.
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u/StrictLengthiness866 2d ago
The biggest one and one I’ve gotten actual hate for is shipping Sciles.
I understand that the writers set them up to be “bros”. But they’re not. They’re not related in any way. Friends to lovers is the best trope (IMO) and i WILL die on this hill.
Either give me Scira or give me Sciles. None of this half-cooked Scalia or on-again-off-again Scallison drama.
(I get it. Scallison was supposed to be indicative of a typical teenage relationship. But come on.)
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u/Overalonyx 4d ago
The movie wasn't terrible but it wasn't great. I just think it gets more hate than it deserves
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u/Katthekitkat2411 Team Stiles 4d ago
Season 4 was AWFUL. The plot was messy and made zero sense. I don’t know how people like that season.
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u/Reasonable_Leek8069 3d ago
Season 6 ended perfectly at the end of 6 A. It didn’t need 6 B.
I still haven’t watched 6 B except one episode (barely) because 6 A was the perfect ending.
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u/Unusual-Emprezz 3d ago
Sometimes I wish Stiles had turned when they needed to change the host in S3B. I would have loved an arc where he has to come to terms with seeing his steel blue eyes because he spilled the blood of innocents while possessed. Overall, seeing real repercussions to his possession would have been nice but we moved on like it never happened until season 5 the at least brought it up but even then, not enough.
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u/NeatAwareness6441 3d ago
I think Season 5 had the right idea narratively speaking it just wasn't executed wisely. The pack had been through a lot it made sense to test those bonds on a narrative level it just wasn't done well
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u/StrictLengthiness866 2d ago
Ope we’ve got a bada** over here guys. Look at this one. 😑 Go troll somewhere else man
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u/TestSpiritual9829 2d ago
Cookies for Sterek? The Dylan O'Brien/Tyler Hoechlin "We're on a ship" video?? Jeff, and especially Matt the social media guy were pushing it SO HARD it was unbelievable. It's why so many Sterek shippers abandoned the show when it became clear that it was just Queerbaiting.
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u/Cross-eyedwerewolf Evolved Wolf 2d ago
This subreddit despises Allison, so I guess liking the main couple ends up the unpopular opinion
Anyway that's my unpopular opinion, I love Scallison and they were adorable together
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u/Short_Sport_4476 4d ago
Liam and Hayden had no chemistry
Liam and Theo had weird flirty energy in the last season in my opinion. I kept thinking they were gonna kiss or something LOL.
I thought Malia/Scott as a couple made more sense then Stiles/Malia honestly.
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u/stydiarules 3d ago
I mean people ship Thiam for a reason plus the fact that Theo probably became Liams anchor at the end of season 6
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u/Interesting-Job-3896 4d ago
I hate Malia I hated the way she was written I hate her personality I hate everything about her. She didn’t Alaya’s need to be blunt and serious and aggressive and feral even though she was stuck as a coyote for years that doesn’t excuse anything. I can’t stand her especially in season 5b and all of season 6
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u/Aggravating_Drink817 3d ago edited 16h ago
I don't hate her but it was obvious that her being stuck as a coyote for all those years stunted and like you said made her blunt and aggressive. And I don't know if it was the writing for her but I felt like she never developed past that really as a character beyond that which made her frustrating to me. When she said "Find a way to change me back." I would have immediately been on the phone with Deaton. "Bet. So turns out she doesn't actually wanna be human, how do we turn her back?" And the relationship never would have happened after that if I wrote it
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u/xHey_All_You_Peoplex 4d ago
Stalia is the best. Sterek is ass. Stydia is mid.
Jackson should've died.
Scira is better than Scallison, but Scallison had better build up and tension.
Lydia should've stayed with Aiden if anything.
Would've preferred Melissa with the Noah instead of Chris.
Issac is overrated.
Erica and Allison both suck.
Shoulda ended after season 4.
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u/Stevie052096 4d ago
I enjoyed the movie
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u/katabasis180 4d ago
Congrats on nailing the assignment. This post felt like a hate crime against me. Lol
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u/anonymousbillnye 4d ago
Stiles was at fault for what happened with Scott in season 5 they just blame Scott because they like Stiles better
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u/Annual-Evidence4139 4d ago
Actually, I blame Theo; dismantling the entire core group through manipulation was entirely his fault. Scott was emotionally manipulated by him.
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u/Sean_A25 3d ago
Yes thank you like Scott didn't even believe Theo that's why he confronted stiles and asked him but stiles didn't explain it he just said he threatened my dad and basically admitted to Theo story without details
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u/Visual_Salamander_54 4d ago
Stiles should've taken the bite when he went started going full Nogitsune🙌. I understand Stiles not taking the bite back during season 1 with Peter as the alpha and all. But during season 3 when he got the nogitsune poison injected in him and was under full control he should've asked to get bitten. Scott is his best friend and the alpha so he knows he wouldn't be "working" for a murderous psycho and would have proper guidance with Scott and Derek. I understand that they were worried about the whole "If your body rejects the bite, you die" thing but Stiles was already under the mindset that he was willing to die to stop innocent lives from being taken, so why wouldn't he take the easy chance of expelling the nogitsune via werewolf bite🤔. It then would've also made Malia and Stiles relationship make more sense since she would've not only found comfort in Stiles but also "familiarity" and they would've shared the process of gaining control together.
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u/Unusual-Citron-8771 Hale Pack 2.0 4d ago
...Stiles didn't KNOW about it. He was in Eichen House when the pack found the Shugendo scroll, and after that the Nogitsune had fully taken over. By the time Stiles was himself again to ask (if they even had the chance to tell him!), he and the Nogitsune had split and were 2 separate bodies. Biting Stiles wouldn't affect Void, and they had bigger things on their plate at that point.
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u/Visual_Salamander_54 4d ago
Oh my bad i must have the order of events mixed up in my head, I thought they had the scroll pre sending styles to Eichen House. My bad😅
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u/DnDCharacterSheet 3d ago
Stiles telling Lydia he loved her just before The Wild Hunt took him was one of the dumbest writing decisions in the entire series. He moved on. He found someone who loved all of him and while willing to abandon anyone if it meant survival told him straight to his face she would never leave him behind. Also Stiles being taken suddenly has her sleeping around with random dudes somehow? I love Stiles and Lydia’s ‘buddy cop’ dynamic 100x more than Stydia
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u/The-Angriest-Angel Darach 4d ago
People overlook that Monroe was a victim who chose to fight back against the supernatural but since she was attacking characters that we know and love, she was considered a villain rather than being seen as victim by the fandom
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u/JourneyStilinski Banshee 2d ago
Kira and Malia are my favorite Non Canon ship out of the entirety of teenwolf (besides Liam and Theo)
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u/YouGotPickIed 1d ago
Stydia was better as friends after season 3B, they drug it on to long that I liked it better that Stiles finally moved on from Lydia and they could be platonic besties. Lowkey as long as they dragged it on for the build up in season 6a where Lydia is finally saying she likes him lowkey felt like - rushed too. Idk. Also Scott and Malia weren’t a terrible pair (damn better then Malia and Parish) but it would’ve been better if stiles was in that season and had been actually hyping them up instead of them being like “oh he will be okay with this cause he got with Lydia” as if Scott was okay with Allison and Issac after he got with Kira (Scott and Kira were lowkey couple goals)
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u/NoGap4699 1d ago
Dylan O'Brien wasn't the show and had no effect on the movie like some delusional fan's think. 😭
he left in S6 and viewership was stable. the only reason the movie didn't do well is because the script wasn't as good as people thought it was going to be and because Tyler agreed to Derek being killed.
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u/Alecs_kawai5 20h ago
Stiles and Malia should have been endgame. They had an amazing chemstry and it taught teenagers that you don't always get what you wanted (Lydia in this case, with whol he had more of à bestie connection), but what you need.
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u/Western-Lake1968 17h ago
Scott was way too soft with the pack. He was letting everyone walk on him specially season 5
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u/rex_corvus13 13h ago
Scott shouldn't have become a true alpha, or at least not in season 3, and Derek shouldn't have lost his alpha status (or his pack, Erica and Boyd are totally fine I swear). I love Scott, especially as he developed more in season 3, but a lot of that progress happened off screen. He was just getting a handle on actually being a werewolf it felt super unearned for him to suddenly be an alpha.
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u/Careless-Ad5668 6h ago
Derek groomed the fuck out of his pack whatchu mean a grown ass man (by that time his age absolutely got retconned to full adult not 19) started hunting for abused, vulnerable, and isolated kids to turn into werewolves (one of which he was having sexual relations with, Erica) which lead to two of their deaths
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u/silkvanille_ 6h ago
i get these are unpopular opinions but wth are you talking about??? this isn’t even an opinion this is literally incorrect information. sure he recruited vulnerable teens but he did not groom them and he DEFINITELY did not have any type of sexual relationship with erica. he immediately rejected her. and what led erica and boyd to their deaths was the alpha pack and kali and the twins forcing boyd to impale himself on derek’s claws.
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u/jsoto09 4d ago
Both Scott and Stiles have extremes. Scott trusts too many people but Stiles doesn’t trust anyone. He isn’t always right and I’m saying this as someone who has Stiles as a favorite character