I hated the ending

[u/artenuit]

Just got done watching the ending of season 7 and I hate the ending. After doing all the horrible things to save humanity, they all become sparkling lights? What was that. Everything they did felt pointless.

[u/Spare_Monitor6524]

The ending was HORRIFYING. The human race joins a alien race who are capable of and have genocided multiple planets, worlds and maybe even galaxies. They have a very subjective test; and they kill you if you fail. They say humans are rare because we have emotions. So they don’t? Are they psychopaths? It was the opposite of the ”doing better”-mindset.

[u/Amber4481 → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

Also we already did the city of light.

I know there are minute differences that people like but I hate it. This was the series FINALE. And they just get sent back to the ground to die. Again.

[u/Spare_Monitor6524 → u/Amber4481]

I mean, at least we know ALIE tried to help humans, she didn’t understand how to but that was her intention. I’m not even sure the genocidal aliens wanted to help humans, or actually cared about what happened to the humans who transcended.

And yeah, it was a choice, but it wasn’t an equal choice, apparently they sterilized the people who said no to transcende. So they are making species go extinct either way.

And everytime we meet people throughout the stories who presented themselves as good, like Mountain Men, ALIE (kinda), The Primes and The Disciples - they all turned out to morally horrible things. And now we are supposed to think the aliens who bragged about their genocides are good? No, I don’t buy it. I never expected a fairytale ending, the 100 was never that kind of show - but the ”doing better”-theme was hammered into our brains. And then it all ended with the human race surrendering to genocidal aliens? Just why?

[u/Amber4481 → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

The whole alien transcendent plot was a full fail for me. The disciples worked how long to figure it out? And it took Jordan a few hours because he KNEW SOME KOREAN?!

Bellamy fell for another Pike figure? Didn’t he sort out his daddy issues after the whole massacre he did?

Don’t get me started on Raven seeing Abby. We saw her work through her fucked up mommy issues in seasons 1, 5 and 6. Should have been Sinclair.

[u/Spare_Monitor6524 → u/Amber4481]

Now you got me started on how stupid the plot with the Disciples trying to find the final code was. We know that Bill Cadogan already knows about the Flame and enough about its functions to know the AI could locate the final code and contained Becca’s memories about it. Why would the Disciples spend, I don’t know how many years, trying to find a code on a stone that had an infinite number of combinations, when they knew the Flame was right there on Earth? (It was because Jason hadn’t made up or thought these plot points through yet).

Bill clearly knew the code to get to Earth, and could go there despite the stone on Earth being deactivated. If this was a way to show that Bill was a hypocrite regarding love, and that he wouldn’t hurt Callie – it makes some more sense, I guess. But after the years had passed, what was stopping him? Bill thought Callie was in the Flame, and wanted to see her again anyway. The Disciples didn’t even need to get exposed to radiation; there were working suits inside the bunker where the stone was. Bill knew, he created the bunker. But no, all of this out the window, because Jordan knows SOME Korean. It’s not even a plot hole, it’s a plot assassination.

I don’t object in theory that one of the "good guys" would fall for the cult (those things happen way too often). But having it be Bellamy and erasing all his character development since Season 3? Not the way. And also doing it because of Jason was petty...

Yeah, and Raven and Abby? It just felt cheap, the writers trying to make us go "awww, how cute" (like Abby didn’t torture Raven two seasons earlier). It wasn’t even Abby, it was emotional manipulation by the aliens. I get so mad when people say "I liked the finale because we saw Lexa again." NO. You saw ADC portraying an alien who read a vulnerable Clarke’s mind without consent so they could manipulate her. The writers just got too caught up in their fan service, that they didn’t see the implications of their writing – or just ignored it. I don’t know what’s worse.

Edit: corrected some grammatic errors.

[u/Amber4481 → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

Now you’ve got me started on Lexa showing up for Clarke. First of all Madi is Clarke and Lexa’s aged up TV baby. She’s a grounder, natural nightblood, looks like Lexa and has all of Lexa’s memories from the flame. That man tortured Madi to death and they have Lexa chastise Clarke? Pardon? Lexa would have done the same thing only much slower and with a blade. (Don’t get me wrong. Love Lexa, love to see her, but not to murder her character).

Had they asked me, I would have used Monty. Clarke comes through and claps asshole and Monty is standing there making that face and says “this is what you call being the good guys?” Would have ruined me.

Also I understand Bob had some serious stuff to handle but he should have been in the last two episodes.

Edited to add: WTF happened to Emori? Is she just gone and Murphy’s fine or is she still in his head?

[u/Spare_Monitor6524 → u/Amber4481]

Yeah, I don't know if I might have an unpopular opinion on the Lexa topic, but I don't think the show handled her that well at all after Season 3. How many times does someone say to Clarke, "…didn't you learn this from Lexa" or "why would Lexa have said that?" – while it was actually Clarke influencing Lexa while she was alive. (I'm not saying Lexa didn't influence Clarke, I'm just talking about proportions.) Madi using the Lexa argument with Clarke in Season 5 does make sense in the story, but it was very obvious what the writers were going for.

Then in Season 7, I think Murphy says "Lexa was everyone's favorite" to Sheidheda. Like, no – there were several attempts to unseat Lexa and very public dissatisfaction with her leadership and choices throughout Seasons 2 and 3. I love Lexa as a character and ADC does a great job playing her. But because of the (very valid) backlash after Season 3, it seems like the writers chose to glorify Lexa in the later seasons because of it. It just felt a bit too on the nose for me and a bit unauthentic. Clarke would, for obvious reasons, remember Lexa in a very positive light, but all the characters treating Lexa like this untouchable holy figure never really sat right with me. I loved Lexa because she was an interesting character in both her strengths and her flaws, and her trying to lead the Grounders in a more progressive way, constantly having to deal with her own and her people's warrior mindset, was what made her interesting to me.

I saw you lifting the question about Emori. She transcended along with Murphy because apparently you didn't need a body to be deemed alive – only having your mind present was enough. She came back with him to Clarke on the beach; you can see her there for a split second. But this raises another question for me: if the writers really wanted to fan-service Lexa all the way and heal old wounds, why did they make sure to destroy the Flame? If the Flame had been repaired and functioning, all the Commanders in there would've been able to transcend, right? Because Emori could. Emori was given her body back, so why couldn’t Lexa (or Becca) have hers back? This makes me question whether more than two seconds of thought went into the transcendence plot...

I mean, they brought back ADC to play an alien cosplaying as Lexa – why not do the real deal? I would've preferred your Monty-as-the-judge idea, and then actually having Lexa return, if that was what the writers were going for anyway. And having Bellamy there too, of course.

[u/Single_Explanation27 → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

didn’t shiedheda kill all the rest of the commanders in the flame? he was the only one in there with madi

[u/JaderMcDanersStan → u/Amber4481]

Emori transcended with Murphy since technically her consciousness was still alive because it was in Murphy's head. Then they both came back to be with Clarke and their friends

She was on the beach

[u/bvanevery → u/Amber4481]

Too much military training, not enough civilian thinking, everyone's in the thrall of a cult leader. Didn't seem like much of a stretch that this small body of thinkers missed something. They sure have a bunch of good mindblowing tech though. So yeah not exactly equal effort.

[u/bvanevery → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

Maybe you only get to do better until you run out of time. Then you get strong hints dropped that everything you did was meaningless. That was an actual line in one of the last episodes, I forget which one. Although they may have specifically been talking about war.

Although the Doyleist perspective would be welp, time to wrap!

[u/artenuit → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

Exactly!

[u/StableToaster63 → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

Well they didn't have to take the test

[u/Spare_Monitor6524 → u/StableToaster63]

Yeah sure, that’s the only saving point in this mess. But we can’t either be sure that once the final code was entered and someone met the alien overlords, that they didn’t try to use some emotional manipulation to push species into taking the test. Becca came back begging on her knees and when Bill Cadogan saw Callie there, alien-Callie was very much like ”so are you finally ready?” She even said ”dad”. It just isn’t the ideal behaviour of ”higher beings” to be so manipulate. It makes me think that the ”higher beings” were most of all trying to convince theirself that they had the moral high ground (spoiler alert: they didn’t reasonably not).

[u/bvanevery → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

I agree, but... another way to look at it, is if there hadn't been these spheres for crossing the galaxy (universe?), humanity would have been extinct. Like I don't think Sanctum was sustainable.

So, uh, extinct sooner, extinct later, OR you get the transcendence booby prize...

The very final ending made me happy that some people weren't on board with transcending and came back to keep Clarke company the usual survivalist way.

Notably, her daughter didn't, and that made sense.

[u/Spare_Monitor6524 → u/bvanevery]

I get what you mean, but yeah, a species existing at all means that you're always, to some level, vulnerable to a potential risk of extinction. But I also don’t think Sanctum would've been sustainable in the long run for human life, but I guess we'll never really know. Technically, they could've used the Eligius IV ship to go from Sanctum to Earth, Skyring, or another one of the five planets that originally were a part of the Eligius mission. So I don't necessarily agree humanity would've gone extinct without the stones, but the stones did really help humanity in terms of travel, no doubt about that!

It also took quite a long time for humanity to actually start using the stone. I wonder if Bill Cadogan would ever have cracked the code in his lifetime if Becca, with her AI-empowered brain, hadn't come down and indirectly given him a push. Without that, with Bill Cadogan left on Earth, it becomes unclear if the Grounders would have formed, and it would probably have had ripple effects on the whole plot. Like, would we ever come to a point where McCreary unleashes the bomb that makes Earth totally uninhabitable in the first place? It's so interesting to think about!

[u/bvanevery → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

One thing I think the show highlights, is in a marginal environment, it only takes 1 crazy selfish person to destroy it all.

[u/Spare_Monitor6524 → u/bvanevery]

True! I guess that's why only 1 person takes the test (which I think is a little weird, cause it seems unfair to judge a whole species, where most of them probably didn't know the test subject, on one individual, but I get the point the show was trying to make).

[u/bvanevery → u/Spare_Monitor6524]

I think Star Trek TOS did it better a long time ago. The Empath

[u/Tiny-Yesterday4416]

After everything they went through this was the worst final season of any show I have watched (besides GOT).

[u/Amber4481 → u/Tiny-Yesterday4416]

GOT set the bar in hell for bad landings.

[u/iizakore → u/Tiny-Yesterday4416]

How I met your mother is my #2 with 100 at #3

[u/Tiny-Yesterday4416 → u/iizakore]

It was never supposed to be Robyn….like what were they even thinking??

[u/onemorespacecadet → u/Tiny-Yesterday4416]

so i did a rewatch recently and honestly? i like the final season on the whole much more than i remember… then the episode where Bellamy dies happens and it’s just downhill from there. and i hated the finale itself more than i did the first time around, i think. it was atrocious

[u/JaderMcDanersStan → u/onemorespacecadet]

Yeah there were parts of Season 7 that I loved - Anaconda/beginning of the grounder culture and Hope, Octavia and Diyoza being a family was one of my favorite parts of the whole series

But yeah once she killed Bellamy it went downhill

[u/bvanevery → u/JaderMcDanersStan]

I gave up on trying to figure out Clarke a long time ago. She does stupid shit. Very impulsive and fear driven about bumping people off. Doesn't really think all her shit through. Then when she does think it through some episode sometime, it's annoying to have a followup where she doesn't. Like she's smart enough to make some plans "if A, then B, then C" and half the time she just blows it off.

She's a super duper annoying character, and I'm thinking she's functionally supposed to be, to wind the audience up. Conflict being the core of drama and all that.

"Ok, we need some annoying shit to happen. Give it to Clarke."

[u/Expensive_Ball6851 → u/Tiny-Yesterday4416]

I thought the 100 ending was way better.  Mostly because there was a fair amount of closure in previous seasons so you can basically pretend the last season and thus ending didnt exist. Unlike GOT nothing was resolved pre last season and it was like alternating between horrible episode want to rip your hair out and boring episode nothing at all happens

[u/wowk8]

i didnt love the beings of light thing but the fact that the gang came back down to live their life together without fear and war was so beautiful to me

[u/artenuit → u/wowk8]

I loved that part too but the ending of humanity was pretty awful

[u/CalendarNo8591 → u/wowk8]

And without being able to continue the human race

[u/stonewall_jacked → u/CalendarNo8591]

A happy ending after all.

[u/DrBimboo → u/wowk8]

Most importantly, a life without Abby. Must be so peaceful now.

[u/DamageAccording5745]

Yup. I pretend that S5 is the real ending of the show.

[u/Amber4481 → u/DamageAccording5745]

Same. Finale scene is Clarke and Bellamy looking at hope for a new world.

[u/Jarboner69]

Yeah was pretty fucking horrible ending

[u/Collectionhappy1508]

They just wanted to end the show. It was horrible.

[u/dinos196868]

I started watching the 100 a few years ago then stopped. Now almost through full catch up and into season 7 - was great until this final season and its just falling apart - I will hobble through to the end but by what I have read its pretty bad .. this final season is going off in too many directions - I miss the ye olde 100 from Season 1 through 5 ...

[u/Minnipresso]

It's like not that different to the city of light

[u/bvanevery → u/Minnipresso]

it's a bit bigger

[u/mccnchildrowan]

I think they put all their effort into that backdoor pilot that didn't even become a thing because they biffed it so hard with season seven 🤣

[u/erika64]

I mean as a bellark shipper for the seven years I watched it (16- 23 years old) oh man I didn't make to the last couple episodes.

I love me an angsty ending but GOT and the 100 both broke my heart in the worst way.

[u/Disastrous-Talk-7790 → u/erika64]

have you read the books? i wanna get them just so i can have my bellarke ending

[u/LordDedionware]

Ya sci-fi show's obsession with the whole "ascension" thing is quite ridiculous, and it makes me cringe every time they pull that little naritive cliche out of the hat.

[u/Chrrch]

We all did. I stop after season 6 on every watch. Wish they just cut out the portals altogether, had dyoza and Octavia join Gabriel, and end with them rebuilding sanctum and maybe throw an episode or two about teaching the grounders how to act civilized and coexist in the new society. Would have made a much better ending.

[u/JaderMcDanersStan → u/Chrrch]

Personally the portals and Hope/Octavia/Diyoza being a family were my favorite part

The parts on rebuilding Sanctum is what I had to drag through. I just thought it went downhill after she killed Bellamy

[u/Greedy-Tomatillo253]

But how can you say that the series has taken a different turn if Alie appears already in the third season, an artificial intelligence who has destroyed the world and who pretends to be a city of light and other crazy things, already from there the series has changed, and honestly I loved all the seasons even the ending

[u/paulwht1979]

I felt the same way. It sucks. I later thought about it though and realized the ending I wanted was something like Battlestar Galactica which is a problem because then the only way for me to get my ending is to copy another show that already did it. They must have thought the same thing and then instead of people being mad about this ending, the people would be mad that they copied Battlestar. It's sort of a no-win. It sucks because I don't see an ending that makes better sense that could have been original and good. They painted themselves in a corner when they went with destroying the earth and going to space. For me, that was a bad decision. The best part of the story to me was learning to combine the modern technological ways of the 100 and their people with the Grounders and finding a way to live together eventually. That was the ending I expected in the early seasons.

[u/sparky_tupp]

I heard about the ending before I finished the series, but thought I'd give it the benefit of making my own opinion. But in the end I agreed with everyone else, it left me flat.

[u/Total-Disaster8852]

The moment they left earth, the show ended for me.

[u/bvanevery → u/Total-Disaster8852]

oh c'mon, space popsicles are lovely

[u/milkndpeach]

sometimes i like to pretend that season 7 never happened and the show got cancelled just so i don't have to rethink about how much i hated season 7 - which had a lot of potential - and the ending of the series

[u/bvanevery → u/milkndpeach]

I watched S7 deliberately not knowing how many episodes it had to go before it would finally end. Kept asking myself, ok, are they gonna manage this?

[u/dylan189]

Ahh yes, the show about a people's survival no matter the cost ending with those people getting killed. Best ending 1000%. It was a shit show, and FYI joining the hivemind is exactly the same as getting wiped out. You are no longer yourself, but instead you are a link in a chain of trillions. Ggez

[u/Disastrous_Yam_4110]

After season 3 I stopped watching it seriously and that made the experience a lot more fun- to see how "bad" the writing could get. Terrible ending for sure, but so so funny if you've considered how much of a dive that show took.

[u/bvanevery → u/Disastrous_Yam_4110]

Probably best to see everything from Murphy's perspective.

[u/jibrilles]

In my mind it ends at season 5, and I just shut out the last two seasons.

[u/Sel_drawme]

How would you propose the show end?

[u/VadimShoigu → u/Sel_drawme]

Those that are left of wonkru, the elegius prisoners, sanctum people and disciples go on to start building up the human race again. In early season 7 Clarke should have offed Russel as well before the dark commander took over his body which caused plenty of issues after

[u/MsMercury]

You’re not alone in that assessment.

[u/Alternative_Bit_5714]

That whole season was out of control weird and that ending was terrible … I love the 100 so I of course watched but I sure miss the vibe of the early seasons

[u/EffectiveConcern]

Yup. It is trully shit. I made up my own ending in my head and pretend this one never happened.

[u/bvanevery → u/EffectiveConcern]

Did you download it from your head somewhere?

[u/EffectiveConcern → u/bvanevery]

Something like that ;)

[u/Hungry_Courage_9591]

What I hate is that Clark killed Bellamy for absolutely no reason! She didn’t even get the book back!! She didn’t have to kill him!! Plus, she was so full of herself that she couldn’t comprehend what was actually happening around her.

[u/Mediocre-Sale195]

justice for bellamy blake. his ending alone is what truly pissed me off. the clark and madi storyline was so bad too, no chemistry between the actresses so clark as a mother never really made any sense to me.

but i will say an alien race judging all of humankind on the actions of clark and then being like “lol you suck so bad, that’s unfair. we’ll let everybody except you in” is hilarious. you’re right tho - everything did feel pointless. all the time travel and destroying the planet numerous times… going back and forth between earth and space a dozen times, wars on wars on wars, then destroying another planet… just for that ending. such a phenomenal show but they just totally flopped w the ending. rewatching it again tho <3

[u/mlegron]

Everyone does, show ended in s4, MAYBE, s5

[u/Disastrous-Talk-7790 → u/mlegron]

season 5 ending was meant to be the ending of the show ,in case they didnt get to film the rest. and it was a good scene where bellamy and clarke are staring into the new world, their future on a new planet or whatever. from that point we couldve imagined the rest ourselfes. and thats where it ended for me

[u/lovelybabyliz]

in my head everyone died at the end of season 4!