r/TheDragonPrince • u/MrBKainXTR Soren • Nov 06 '19

Announcement Harassment Allegations Megathread

Please keep all further discussion of the workplace harassment allegations regarding Wonderstorm and Ehasz in this megathread.

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Allegations:

https://twitter.com/danikaharrod/status/1191957269774245888?s=20

https://twitter.com/luluryounes/status/1191813982832644096?s=20

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1191924533696950272.html?refreshed=yes

Edit:

Ehasz sort of responded to some of the allegations back in august.
https://twitter.com/generalamayas/status/1192217818965643264

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u/FieserMoep Captain Villads Nov 06 '19

Keep Calm, wait for a possible response from Wonderstorm. Don't rush to anyone's side. Don't prepare a pyre without evidence.
That is my take on this.

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u/NoOneDream Sun Nov 06 '19

Yeah that was my mistake at the start. I’ve since deleted those posts and comments

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u/Epicsnailman Nov 06 '19

I mean sure. I hope he has a good response. But I doubt there is an anterior motive here. It seems like Aaron is just an asshole.

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u/jalex54202 Nov 07 '19

It’s very easy to jump to conclusions with just one viewpoint. Before we go ahead and say “Aaron is bad”, we should hear his side of the story first.

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u/BlazeOfGlory72 Nov 06 '19 edited Nov 06 '19

It seems like Aaron is just an asshole.

Which isn’t a crime, a fact many people seem to forget. Even if all these allegations are true, it doesn’t really mean anything other than that Aaron is kind of a douche and would not be a great person to work for.

There’s really no action or outrage required on the part of the fans or media here. At most, people should be disappointed that a creator they respected is not a nice person in real life.

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u/Epicsnailman Nov 06 '19

I never made a claim that it was a crime. I'm not advocated he be arrested or shot. I'm just disappointed in him, and I don't want to be associated with him or his work, even if his writing is some of the best in the industry.

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u/BlazeOfGlory72 Nov 06 '19

That is totally your right. However, I will let you know that these type of issues are in no way uncommon within the creative industry (movies, television, video games, animation, etc). I guarantee that a large portion of the content you consume has been created, at least in part, by bad people.

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u/Epicsnailman Nov 06 '19

Yeah, I know. And that sucks. I don’t want the show to be canceled. But I do want there to be a change, in Aaron, in the studio, in the industry.

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u/BlazeOfGlory72 Nov 06 '19

That’s fair. There are definitely issues in regard to the working conditions in the industry as a whole that need to be addressed.

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u/Fandomixture Nov 06 '19

I think we all can agree with that. But we have to keep in mind that, as the other user said, we consume a lot of medie created by bad people, who have done truly terrible things.

Aaron is allegedly egocentric and doesn’t value others as he should. At most, he treats his employees really poorly and is not very honest with them (That is a hard pill to swallow, and hard to believe. But is harder to believe that, if he does, he does it because they’re women). So, there is that. Is that truly unforgivable? You know who was worst? Steve Jobs. Has that stopped anyone for consuming apple products? Not me. Not anyone I know.

If all of it is true, would you guys seriously think is enough to cancel him and stop watching the show? He must apologize of course. But that’s not harassing his employees, and I recommend not to take that term lightly.

If he had abused or had sexually harassed women, if he had been disrespectful to them because of their gender, if he’d done SOMETHING of the sort, I would understand the social lynching. The thing is: he’s just been accused of being a bad boss. Is that so bad?

Go and lynch those who really are damaging the industry. Because he is an angel compared to most of them.

And just to make it cristal clear: IF he’s done what these women say he’s done, he must apologize. We should support those who has spoken, because they do seem affected. However, don’t take every word they speak at face value. When there’s a personal issue, no side says 100% the truth.

And yes, let’s make them hear us. Let’s try to make them change the toxic environments they may have at the company.

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u/RogueSexToy Nov 06 '19

We don’t know Danika or Lulu personally though. Perhaps I am just not the trusting type but I don’t think either Aaron or the women are reliable sources. Meaning that the truth will be a pain the ass to decipher.

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u/LordHandQyburn Nov 06 '19

Yeah « it seems » but is it? I prefer to judge on what is and not on what seems to be

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u/Cvetanbg97 Baititi Bait might be Aditi Nov 06 '19

Admirable effort to bring reason to the crowd with tourches. you have my respect.
Alas way too many are too quick to judge.
i've got over 109 dislikes overall on several comments for trying to stop their social justice crusade.

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u/Bambi_1996 Nov 06 '19

What got the dislikes was the angry manner of your writing, utilising emboldened keywords, etc, accusing the alleged abuse victims of being part of a ‘targeted hit’ against The Dragon Prince which, although the timing checks out, isn’t likely given who started this.

I am personally also on the wait for further evidence, response and even then take into account all angles and the fact that people are complex.

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u/Cvetanbg97 Baititi Bait might be Aditi Nov 06 '19

If what they claim was true , and considered themselves mistreated they could have left long long time ago. Aaron isn't the sole boss in the galaxy. Yet they kept on working with him.
But what's truly suspicious is the timing. Two weeks before the release of the third season.
As i've wrote many times Justin is next to be tossed into the wolves.

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u/Bambi_1996 Nov 06 '19

What you are doing is constructing conspiracy theories utilising potentially harmful rhetoric encouraging a witch hunt against potential victims of workplace abuse in order to defend a creator that you like. We all like these creators. Now, there is an alternative side encouraging a witch hunt against the accused, neither is constructive.

Such rhetoric is dangerous and creates toxic divisions. We should all be avoiding it and approaching this with a measured response.

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u/SilverLupes Ocean Nov 06 '19

Well said. That lines up with the attitude I've been trying to have with my comments. Look for information, try to learn more about the situation, but don't crucify anyone.