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Season 3 Episode 9

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u/IStoneI42 Sun Nov 22 '19

that was a lot of people who brutally died on screen.

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u/Wheels9690 Nov 23 '19

My wife and I were sitting there like "wow, they are being brutal as hell with this final battle scene"

And then the fucking Duren Queen turning the douchy prince into a fucking pin cushion with a head shot thrown in it we both said "wow, she gave no fucks, she was completely committed to "This fucker needs to die and now" without hesitation lol

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u/holliequ Nov 23 '19

I said "holy shit" several times outloud when it got to that scene. Like wow. Aanya didn't hesitate. That's one hell of an 8-10 year old (however old she actually is).

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u/swismiself Nov 25 '19

Like Lyanna Mormont

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u/franzvondoom Nov 25 '19

She's the Lyanna Mormont of this series

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u/CouteauBleu Nov 23 '19

(kinda spoiled by the fact that there is no way in hell a kid her age would have the strength to draw a longbow to that kind of range, let alone shoot accurately; that kind of skill takes a lifetime to acquire)

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u/franzvondoom Nov 25 '19

perhaps its a magic elven bow. :)

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u/TheLegend78 Dec 02 '19

Maybe she had practice? She did say that she survive assassin and usurpers no problem.

Headcanon is that Aanya is incredibly strong and fit for her age. IDK, if Hayato can do it, she can.

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u/IamaRead Dec 04 '19

It is a fantasy show, don't relate real life bows to it. If you want to be realistic lets talk about the heavy armor everyone wears all the time, which you won't do, cause it is to heavy to move in it.

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u/Bad_wolf42 Dec 09 '19

I’ve worn plate. If you are remotely fit you can do handsprings.

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u/IamaRead Dec 09 '19

On one hand:

A complete suit of plate armour made from well-tempered steel would weigh around 15–25 kg (33-55lbs). The wearer remained highly agile and could jump, run and otherwise move freely as the weight of the armour was spread evenly throughout the body.

On the other hand you have also other gear and moving in it over long periods of time etc. is exhausting, not something you want to do and not something regular armies did.

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u/Bad_wolf42 Dec 09 '19

True, fantasy series are often quick to dismiss the retinue that would need to be present to support an army of this size.

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u/CFDre Nov 24 '19

Or when the aunt broke the guy's arm. I was like, "Damn!" Then proceeded to nod in approval.

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u/Wheels9690 Nov 24 '19

Auntie also hucked a sword through someones sternum lol

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u/Wuskers Nov 24 '19

lmao when that happened I was like "wow that's just straight up death, okay then"

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u/Wheels9690 Nov 24 '19

Right, straight up merc'd his ass.

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u/PlusUltraK Nov 24 '19

She was truly about that life. Ezran can learn a lot from her. She told off Viren. And if Kasef pulled that whole 3 armies vs 1. She have happily claimed self defense

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u/trombonepick Nov 24 '19

I was like 'how the heck did she get him? isn't he up high on the mountain and she's super far away and facing a whole horde of 'more pressing matters''?

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u/-entertainment720- Nov 24 '19

Also with two arrows, perfectly aimed, from a tiny child's bow

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u/Stormfly Thanks, man. Hay is the best. Nov 24 '19

Her and Ezran bother me, because I hate the "woke child" trope, and her coming in, while visually cool, was a tad silly.

Like why was she marching a whole army up there anyway? Why was her army so huge when the other armies of the 4 kingdoms was like 10 000? It's just all spectacle and isn't thought out.

Personally, if I were to make a change it would be to have Viren only change some of the army, and for the rest to desert, but then they get rallied back in the end to rescue the others. Maybe some were disgusted by the change, like 2 of the 4 armies, and then he only converts two of them, but those two are convinced to come back.

Means that there isn't such a high death-toll, and those soldiers being there makes sense. Especially if they had their aunt send a message or something (because she was really good in the final battle).

They could have made the Elves be smaller in number (her elite forces rather than the whole army) or something to make it similarly "hopeless".

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u/RavioliGale Nov 25 '19

Yeah, her army being there bothered me too. Last season her reason for not joining Viren was because she didn't want to send her men to die in Xadia. But now she's leading her army to fight the other human armies in Xadia? Does she just dislike Viren that much?

"Queen, you must send your army to battle in Xadia."

"No, I will not send my men to die fighting fruitless foreign wars"

"It's against Viren."

"Ready my troops."

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u/Stormfly Thanks, man. Hay is the best. Nov 25 '19

The fact that she moved her armies into hostile territory to attack another hostile target is just sheer stupidity.

Her army was probably a quarter the size of the other human army, so she would not have stood a decent chance, and she was moving in to hostile territory filled with other armies (Like the Sunfire Elves at least) that could have beaten her.

It's like a dog trying to kill a bear by chasing it through a lion's den.

And it was leaving the nations of humanity probably almost completely undefended, because she took with her all of the other humans that didn't join the first army and my god it just pisses me off so much how stupid that all was that I had to stop for a minute just so I could enjoy the cinematic spectacle (because it was well animated if not well written)

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u/RavioliGale Nov 25 '19

I had to stop for a minute just so I could enjoy the cinematic spectacle (because it was well animated if not well written

Haha yeah. I have a few plot and tone gripes this season but the animation is like ten times better than before.

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u/IamaRead Dec 04 '19

I agree with the woke child tropes, though for me it is fine that she did move out. It seems that she did hear about the evilness of Viren and to potential fight them is Machiavellian correct. You want to reduce enemy power when they are in a bad situation and she did that securing herself a relative power surplus compared to the other feudal realms.

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u/Prince_Pika Dec 08 '19

It seemed to me that the whole reinforcement army was engineered by the small group of Ezran loyalists that helped Soren get him out of Katolis, since they were up there at the head of the charge. They probably went to Queen Aanya, the only ruler who didn't send her armies to march on Xadia, for help. Aanya didn't want to send her army to Xadia for an offensive strike based on a 3 minute speech that used shadows (and Viren's tale of her mothers' deaths probably backfired, because he basically said "your mothers died while trespassing in Xadia for my plan, now invade Xadia for my plan"), but it's not that unlikely for her to support an effort to a) stop the actions of a usurper and b) prevent the sparking of a great and terrible war.

Also, don't forget that Xadia originally had an army large and well-trained enough to stand against the other 4 kingdoms combined (if necessary). Then with Ezran's last act, a great deal of their forces chose not to fight for Viren. Those forces then returned to fight for the king who gave them a choice, Ezran. Between Aanya's forces (for all we know, she's been training up more and more soldiers than ever before. After all, the other rulers didn't know that she was already acting without a regent. Who knows how much else goes on) and those under the banner of the Broken Link, the numbers really aren't that staggering.

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u/Stormfly Thanks, man. Hay is the best. Dec 08 '19

I know why it all happened, I just disliked it.

Like I said, I would have preferred if it had been the remnants of the army after it had split. They could still have used the "broken chain" people if they had wanted to, as they could have been following them.

I just disliked the other queen's army coming in to save the day. I just don't think it was done as well, and when they showed up to save them, I was let down. It just didn't feel like that had been appropriately set up so it didn't have the same impact as it might have otherwise.

Maybe it's just me.

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u/Grafical_One Dec 08 '19

Nah. Not just you. I thought the "united human kingdoms - 1" hulked out, no less, should have posed more of a threat. I know that animation was limited, but showing Duran's army just as big wasn't doing the narrative any favors, IMO.

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u/Docnevyn Dec 08 '19

Did you see the broken chain banners? Her army included all those that left Viren's army with Ezran's clemency.

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u/Wheels9690 Nov 24 '19

Crack shot for sure lol.

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u/infinight888 Nov 25 '19

we both said "wow, she gave no fucks, she was completely committed to "This fucker needs to die and now" without hesitation lol

That... Is a very specific thing for you and your wife to both say.