Clash of Titans 3 Losers Finals

[u/KenfromDiscord]

Out of Tier Rules

For Out of Tier requests, Simply debate better than your opponents. The judges will judge the quality of both participants arguments into question and decide a winner based on that.

Battle Rules

Speed - movement speed and combat speed will be set at Mach 1, Combat and movement speed, with their reactions scaled down/up relatively. Speed boosts via abilities, however, are indeed allowed to make one surpass this base speed threshold.

Battleground:

Its SCP-3008. SCP 3008 is an huge space (Current measurements indicate an area of at least 10km2) designed to look like the inside of a regular Ikea store. The arena will be tall enough that the largest submitted character can fit comfortably inside. Combatants start 10 meters away from each other, and in a line spaced 2 meters apart from their allies. Every combatant starts each round being 'teleported' into the arena, knowing full well whomever they face down needs to die or be incapacitated in order for they themselves to advance and win and will do so, and with knowledge of their allies' weapons and abilities. All combatants begin without any weapons drawn or abilities active, hands idle at their sides, weapons holstered, and the moment they teleport in they can begin combat. All combatants are in-character for the tourney itself. No character can escape SCP-3008.

As a side note, the towns that have been set up as well as SCP-3008-2 are not present for the tourney.

Side side note, while combatants cannot exit the arena that does not preclude parts of the arena being torn off and used as weapons.

Combatants spawn in the very center of the Ikea.

Submission Rules

Tier:

Must be able to win an unlikely victory, draw/near draw, or likely victory against

Ben Grimm AKA The Thing

in the conditions outlined above; All entrants will be bloodlusted against The Thing, meaning they will act fully rationally and put down their opponent in the quickest, most efficient manner possible regardless of morality, utilizing any and all possible techniques/tactics/attacks if necessary.

For tier setter fights/OOT requests assume both Thing and your character are bloodlusted

Debate Rules

Rounds will last 5 days, hopefully from Tuesday until Sunday of each week of the tourney; there is a 48 hour time limit both on starting (we do not care who starts, you and your opponent can figure that out) AND on responses, AND ADDITIONALLY each user MUST get in two responses or else be disqualified. If one user waits until the very last minute to force this rule to DQ their opponent without any forewarning to their opponents or the tournament supervisors, they will be removed from this tournament, no exceptions.

Format for each round: both respondents get Intro + 1st Response, then 2nd response, then a 3rd response and closing statement individual of one another that can be posted any time after both 3rd responses are complete. EACH RESPONSE MUST BE NO LONGER THAN THREE REDDIT COMMENTS LONG WITH A HARD CAP OF 25,000 CHARACTERS SPLIT BETWEEN THE THREE.

Rounds will either be a full 3v3 Team Match, or 1v1 single matches. 1v1 matches are determined by randomization. Match format will switch every round, with Team Matches always followed by single matches, and vice versa. First Round will be determined by coin flip.

Brackets Here

Semis will be

3v3 match ups.

Finals Ends June 8th Midnight EST

Format for each round: both respondents get Intro + 1st Response, then 2nd response, then a 3rd response and closing statement individual of one another that can be posted any time after both 3rd responses are complete. EACH RESPONSE MUST BE NO LONGER THAN THREE REDDIT COMMENTS LONG WITH A HARD CAP OF 25,000 CHARACTERS SPLIT BETWEEN THE THREE.

Rounds will either be a full 3v3 Team Match, or 1v1 single matches. 1v1 matches are randomized based on sign up order via an internet list randomizer. Match format will switch every round, with Team Matches always followed by single matches, and vice versa. First Round will be determined by coin flip, and as it is 3v3s, next shall be 1v1, and so on and so forth.

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Part IV: Team Thunderstrucks Offense

Cannonball

• “His charges are only wall busting, and don't harm the massively weaker than tier Silver Samurai.
• “In this one it says he shatters the building, however we have no clue how large the building is, nor the extent of the damage he does”
• “The building he crashes into in the second scan is derelict, which likely means structurally compromised. Also again have no clue the size. This could be basically a small shack”
• “Cannonball Sentinel - Cannonball literally hit this dude two times before hand, and explicetly did no damage. It was only when he had an entire hundred of feet of ramp up time did he hurt it, not something replicable in an Ikea”
• “Cannonball Crater - This is like Comet's crater at best, which is decent, but not like insane for the tier.”

Saying that Cannonball is only wallbusting based on a singular scan from his earliest appearances when he explicitly has better feats is a pretty weak argument. You can call the “shatters a building” scan vague if you want, but there isn’t a reasonable interpretation of “shatters a building” that does anything other than kill your team with the trash durability feats presented for them.

The second building bust posted being a “derelict building” doesn’t prove it to be weaker, buildings go derelict due to mold, infestations, lack of access to utilities, and lots of other reasons other than “this building is actually made of paper mache”, and I have never seen a “small shack” with windows comparable to people.

The sentinel feat isn’t an antifeat, he’s bullrushing a several ton object from below ground levels through the roof of a parking deck and into the sky before breaking it. The crater feat is visibly deeper than the one Comet created, and even if it was the same size, Comet has never taken an attack on it's level.

Ragnarok

• “Daken takes a number of hits from him and is fine. Daken has a healing factor, but Ragnarok doesn't even like damage him much””
• “Kate Bishop a low level peak human took one of his blasts”
• Ragnarok - As mentioned, all of his lightning attacks are absorbed or adapted to, so those are irrelevant”
• “All of Ragnarok's building hits are with his original hammer and cyborg body. EoS as my opponent is running him has a different hammer and no cybernetics, as such theres no proof he can use the same feats. Note as can be seen prior to this a significant part of him is machinery. The idea that his dura remained consistent is dumb.

The Daken antifeat is just ridiculous- behold, A man, not damaged much. Kate Bishop doesn’t even get hit in the scan presented, and Ragnarok’s electricity having a weak charge is much more damning to my opponents win condition of “superman blue absorbs all electricity to the point that it somehow makes up for his garbage physicals” rather than mine of “punches you once.”

Ragnarok was rebuilt several times after several defeats to the point that by the time he had only a robotic brain before his last modification and weapon upgrade. He was at no point ever noted to get any weaker during any point in his history, pretending that he somehow devolved into a nonfactor has no basis.

Iron Man

• “Iron Man's Hit - This feat is pathetic, and vague. Prove that he busted more than a ton or two of material. Blue's feats is visibly far greater than that. Also the fact its a projectile doesn't make it better, especially as he hit him down, gravity is assisting in this hit”
• “ IM Plane Wing - Blue can absorb heat and has survived being next to the sun, Comet's esoteric adaption is so good, that he instantly becomes immune to an absolute zero weapon and is fine with the heat of re-entry”
• “IM Fragmentation - This is like a venom tier feat. It does nothing to my team, especially as IM has to be flying to achieve it (not punches), which takes more time, decreasing DPS”
• “IM Solid Ground - Again, this is like a venom tier feat. Even Comet has durability sufficient to tank this by scaling off his own TK blast”

My opponent calls these feats “venom tier”, which frankly is irrelevant, because his team lacks even “venom tier” durability. For posterity, here's what one ton of rock looks like, and here's the feat my opponent calls worse than destroying a ton of rock. Furthermore, Comet’s esoteric resistance has no bearing on a KE feat. The only durability presented for Comet by my opponent is scaling to an attack that he doesn’t scale or, or scaling his durability to his lifting strength, and Superman Blue has run and hid from attacks with worse collateral.

None of the antifeats presented by my opponent are meaningful in the context of a 3v2 vs two glass cannons. The reality of this debate is that the best feats presented for my opponent’s team are hideously below what is presented for their offense.

Part V: Team Thunderstrucks Defense

Cannonball

• Cyper, a 100% unamped strengthwise mutant mogged him, taking him out in one hit. Easily gets taken out by Deadpool. Sam's Dura against electricity is very inconsistent, with featless electric blasts: Incapping him, multiple times. ”
• “Cannonball explosive feat - First of all the size of the building is unknown. Second of all surface area means that at the absolute most he is taking 50% of the blast, but my opponent can't even prove he took that much since we don't see him as it blows ”

Two street tier antifeats over a history of 30+ years does not disprove the fact that Cannonball has durability above your damage output. The singular blunt force feat you’ve proposed has heavy context to it making it worse than you claim, isn’t used in a combat setting, has no reason to land on someone moving at Cannonballs speed, and has no explicit timeframe.

Ragnarok

• “The Iron Fist one shots him. An uncharged IF at its best takes down a 3 story wooden building, way below tier”

This “one shots him” after he takes several stabs through the chest, limbs, and throat, as well as several hits from someone comparable to the tier setter, all in the context of a fight where he’s being held back by Norman Osborn so he can embarrass the Avengers.

Iron Man

• “IM Crater - This is like 2-3 magnitudes worst than Comet's crater feat”
• “IM Military Crater - Again Comet's crater feat is like nearly this wide and like 4x as deep”
• “IM Sentry Crater - Is that even a crater? It looks like he just cracked a pillar into pieces, and that level of his KO'd him. This is an anti-feat if anything”

Same problem as with Cannonball, just repeatedly comparing it to a singular feat between two characters respect threads without any reason why.

Conclusion

My opponent is outgunned and outnumbered. His two fighters cannot afford to make any mistakes and must react perfectly to any and all threats. They have no reason to act this efficiently from go. My opponent would have you believe that Captain Comet can immobilize, revive, mind read, blast, disassemble, and explode the heads of my entire team simultaneously, and that Superman Blue will instantly go for a lightspeed blitz, spam EMP's and offensive phasing, and never be tagged by anyone on my team. He has to argue this way because it is the only way his team can win- my team, on the other hand, wins by hitting their opponent. Team Thunderstruck should handily take this fight.

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Response 2 Part 1

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Win Conditions

• IM gets taken out instantly

• Ragnarok gets restrained by TK

• Cannonball gets slowed, and can't hit anyone

• Ranged/energy attacks are useless

• Precog + KO revive mean you have to beat Chrome then Blue

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Failed to Address

My opponent failed to address my arguments that:

• Comet's Precog makes my team hard to hit

• Cannonball's electricity dura anti-feats

• Blue can absorb attacks and amp his own attacks to one shot levels of power

• How under tier many of his teams feats are

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Rebuttal 1: Initiative

Rebuttal 1A: Stats

• Blue - Faster than Light and Faster than Lightning aren't mutually exclusive, if you are FTL you are faster than lightning.

  • This also isn't Blue's only speed feat at this speed he phased through an object at nearly the speed of light and flew at nearly the speed of light and flew between Bejing and Buenos Aires in 0.003 seconds. All of these are massively faster than any of my opponents team

• Comet - Faster movement speed, means he can reach his opponents or retreat faster than his opponent can

Rebuttal 1B: Why Does it Matter

• I have said why initiative matters. Blue can move so fast that he can phase through IM and disrupt his electronics before IM's electronics can even react to hm (as they have no feats for reacting to objects even close to lightspeed)

• The fact that Comet's TK is operated purely off of his mind, means he can restrain Ragnarok before Ragnarok can even point his hammer to fire a lightning bolt

• Blunt force is not a core win condition, but that isn't because my team can't hurt my opponents its because his team gets taken out too quickly for KE to matter

Rebuttal 1C: Opponent's Team

None of this plays out how my opponent claims

• Blue as I have shown goes for a blitz phase disruption as his opening move every time he fights machines. He will blitz IM at ~lightspeed, phasing through him and shutting him down, shutting him down well before IM even moves a centimeter

• Ragnarok would be incapped the instant the fight starts by Comet restraining him. As I showed last response Comet can read all of their minds and instantly know all of their powers and abilities, and he's not against restraining foes

• Literally the only person to survive the opening instance is Cannonball, whose now facing a 2v2, with Comet working to debuff his physicals.

Rebuttal 2: Blue's Offensive

Rebuttal 2A: "Proven" Points

• KE - Blunt Force is not one of my main win conditions, due to (as I've described) the fact that IM and Ragnarok get ganked through other means in the opening moment.

  • My team is perfectly capable of taking out my opponent in a couple of hits. As I argued last round my opponent is overselling his team's dura, providing a number of anti-feats.

My opponents team has garbage KE durability, even using just the feats my opponent links:

• Iron Man

  • Takes a hit that creates a puny crater - Blue's hit made a similar sized hole in metal after hitting his foe as a projectile across an entire city
  • He takes a ton of missiles, but due to their AoE nature this feat isn't nearly as good (only a small fraction of the explosions will hit his surface area), the ground is dirt and its much smaller than Comet's TK crater
  • This feat is literally just a 1 foot thick pillar, and he seems to be KO'd by it. We get a wideshot.

• Ragnarok - He takes out part of a hill, but again this is like better than Comet's TK feat

• Cannonball - Earlier self is vague, and my opponent has not provided feats for the damage this era can do. If its the era I think it is, then the anti-feats I provided are all very applicable.

• Esoterics - My opponent fails to acknowledge that Blue's attacks can be amped. If he decides to absorb IM's power supply or gets hit by Ragnarok's lightning/Tony's unibeam he will be firing blasts of electricity the size of buildings capable of vaporizing hundreds of tons of metal. This one shots everyone on my opponents team

  • Note Tony's energy source is essentially a man made star, so Blue is going to be mainlining insane amounts of energy

Rebuttal 2B: Esoterics

• EMP - Reminder, Blue's EMPs take out a city worth of electronics. Tony's best feat as my opponent showed is taking one that took out a building. Surprisingly cities have more than one building.

  • Tony's suit having EMP resistance =/= immune to all EMPs. His feats don't back it up

• Phasing - Yes, this has already been argued, however none of this contests my two main points that:

  • IM's armor can react to a lightspeed object and counter it
  • Its counter is literally electricity, Blue is amped by electricity. All his counter does is make Blue stronger

• Absorption - Blue can and will absorb Ragnarok's primary means of attack (electricity)

  • Blue in the scene linked had all his energy siphoned and was weakened. When at normal power he can instantly absorb energy contained in other beings, no real wait time

Rebuttal 3: Comet's Offensive

Rebuttal 3A: Blunt Force

• Crater - The scene is clearly instant. My opponent is clearly reaching with that argument

  • He also apparently read the scan. No one placed the bomb underground. Its just been there for centuries and was naturally buried over time
  • Even if we assume the bomb takes up 50% of the space, the hole is still way deeper than any of Tony's feats and nearly as large in terms of diameter. Its at worst comparable, if not blatantly better.

• Room - The room's floor was intact and Comet's TK blast tore it apart.

• Building Feat - Again thats old, telekinetically weaker Comet. And my opponent didn't even address Comet dropping a building sized structure on a dude

Rebuttal 3B: TK Holding

• He won't have to hold for long, considering that the fight instantly becomes a 2v1.

  • Comet literally blasted away 3 foes, while pushing a 4th into the ground as an opening move. He can easily hold Ragnarok there since Ragnarok has no lifting strength, or he can just ping pong him around the arena

• Comet regularly grabs foes in combat. Not only does he have the two feats listed but he routinely grabs spaceships and holds or destroys them

• Comet is an expert on multitasking. As shown he used his TK to attack 4 people at once via 2 attacks, he precisely destroys a dozen asteroids and routinely uses his TP in combat to read opponents minds as shown in Response 1

Rebuttal 3C: Internals

• Nanotechnology - This doesn't prove it doesn't have macroscale parts per Tony the nanotech forms, larger iron and platinum tendrils. These larger objects can be disassembled.

• Head Popping - The bugs are sentient/sapient, they aren't monsters. Comet has spent 40-50 years living in space with aliens, he doesn't even like Earth much. The idea he values human lives over aliens make no sense

  • I don't think he has even fought a real human since at least the 60s.
  • Even if he doesn't kill Tony this way, this proves he can do attacks through material, and he can just do a weaker TK burst to KO Tony

Rebuttal 3D: How His Fights Go

• Ass Handing - Yes, he's literally fighting 4-6 perfect clones of himself, and as the scan notes they have a device that can nullify his TP/TK.

  • He's not nearly as outnumbered here, his opponents have no direct counter to TP/TK and no one can match him in terms of ranged KE/holding power

• Teamwork - They're a psychic clone hivemind, so yes of course he will have difficulty against a perfectly coordinated team. This is also literally like minutes after he comes back from the dead.

  • He also proceeds to beat them up right after that statement, while his TK is disabeled.

• Retreat - Dude. He's being attacked by 3 people with his same TK powers, and together they all hit him with a TK blast. Retreating in that situation makes sense.

  • He doesn't attempt to fight back because they are using telepathy to mind rape him. That has no relevance to this fight unless Cannonball is also a telepath when blastin'

• Distracted - This is early reborn Comet, Comet literally goes into the mental plane and talks to his past self later, and as I showed gets pretty good at multitasking

Rebuttal 3E: Fight Applicability

• Blue - Every feat I've provided for Blue was in combat with the exception of the Source Wall lightning scaling, but even then I show Blue going all out with a lightning blast against Metallo's battleship when he was amped.

• Comet - I've linked feats of him dropping buildings on people, driving foes into the ground, using TP to predict his opponents, etc.

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Response 2 Part 2

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Rebuttal 3F: Fight Applicability

• Almost all of the feats I have linked have been in combat. The only exceptions are Blue's non-amped lightning and Comet's crater

  • I have also provided examples of how they behave in a fight (i.e. Comet use TP to predict opponents)

Rebuttal 4: Blue's Blunt Force Durability

• Phasing - Yes he phase that time. Blue tries to phase when he can. As I argued in my first response he took a full contact hit from that same dude right after

• Collateral - The collateral of the hit is pretty big this big rock that dwarfs some trees was obliterated leaving a like 7-10 foot deep and pretty long crater

  • This feat is way better than any of the dura feats provided for my opponents team, especially Iron Man and Ragnarok
  • Also to hammer the point in. I am scaling to this hit, as this guy did it casually then later hit Blue.

• Anti-Feats - I've already addressed all fo these feats, but to just state it again

  • Minotaur - He is explicetly stronger than Blue and Blue can't absorb his punches like he can against non magic people. None of my opponents team have punches that are magic
  • Building Punch - This is an inferior clone, who is explicetly stated to not be Superman Blue
  • Rock Collateral - This is an above tier feat. The energy needed to send a rock flying easily 10 miles away, through multiple buildings and then have the impact force to shatter part of a mountain and cause an avalanche is immense. Its not an anti-feat.

Rebuttal 5: Comet's Blunt Force Durability

• Billboard Feat - Yes, they don't have the crater feat, but they share the pushes over a building feat and drops a large structure on Ominar Synn feat, as those were done by Comet before he came back from the dead and his TK got stronger.

  • There are also multiple of them, attacking him at once

• Durability - If they aren't anti-feats they don't contradict his TK dura scaling

  • Additionally he doesn't need superior durability. His attacks are at range. As I have shown IM gets taken out by Blue instantly and Ragnarok by Comet. That means they are only fighting Cannonball, who Comet can slow down/stop.

Rebuttal 6: Comet's Esoteric Durability

• Lightning - Things like concrete are damaged by lightning due to moisture heat/expanding inside them due to the materials inability to disperse the heat/electricity quick enough

  • There is no "kinetic" component to lighting. The electrical energy in lightning can interact with material in such a way to cause basically an explosion, but in the case of Comet he has taken a lot more electricity just as quickly with no real impact

• Repulsor Beam - The kinetic damage here is worst than Comet taking being cratered into a wall. I don't see how its relevant.

• Weaker Comet - Post-Rebirth Comet was reborn at the age of 20 something and his super strength didn't really kick in until his mid 30s thats the only difference between him and his clones (well and the TK amp he got)

Rebuttal 7: Blue's Esoteric Durability

• See my above response. Lightning has no intrinsic KE component and the repulsor's beams kinetic component sucks

  • Also Blue absorbs at least part of non magical punches

Rebuttal 8: Misc

• Comet's Projectile TK - Most of these anti-feats are bunk:

  • In the first scan Comet even comments on how he was daydreaming when he says he was "rudely brought back to reality" and this takes place inside his own home, against a foe whose also a telepath. (this scan even comments that he has an automatic defense mode)
  • In the second scan notes Comet was distracted. Also note literally seconds after the first scan/this one, Comet collapses into unconsciousness due to how wasted he is. Both of these are soon after he comes back from the dead, so this is justifiable
  • The fourth is literally 3 people with his same type of TK. I don't think his body will automatically recognize his own power as a threat, plus TK isn't a projectile
  • In the fifth scan he's literally stopping the bullets
  • In the sixth scan he's literally restrained. We don't know if he slowed down the bolt, and even if he did it wouldn't let him dodge
  • In the eight scan he literally telekinetically blocks it, only the area around him is hurt and his hand is outreached
  • The ninth scan is when his powers were on the frizt, soon after this he fell into an unconcious state and his powers when haywire
  • The 10th is literally something he can tank over and over, and he clearly knows it
  • The last one is hellfire (magic), but he later evolves and does block it

Out of these like 3 of them are valid anti-feats, and they are far outweighed by his feats:

• He slows bullets, 1, 2 3, energy attacks, 1 2, 3, 4, 5, 6 and other attacks (note 12 feats + the ones I provided in R1 vs. my opponents 10 "anti-feats" with many of those being invalid)

  • Slowing Down Cannonball - Even if Cannonball could apply 4x as much (which is unlikely as the piece of rock Comet lifts is easily as big as the press Cannonball pushes against), by pushing against him Comet would still reduce his speed by 25% and his kinetic energy by 25%. That makes him a lot easier to dodge, and reduces how much damage his hits does by 25%.

• My opponent says that version who was redirected was weaker, but provides no evidence that modern Cannonball is better at resisting forces from his sides, as it stands Comet will just push him into the ground/nearby walls everytime he tries to fly

  • Reviving - Reviving Superman takes as much effort as Comet screaming inside his own head. That level of effort is nothing. Its probably the easiest thing you can do in combat.
  • Phasing - Blue fails to dodge because he can't activate his phasing in time to counter the speed of a punch, however against longer range things that take more time to reach him than a punch (i.e. Cannonball) he can react

• Comet's mind reading lets Blue decide to phase before his opponent throws their punch, giving him the extra time needed to go intangible. As Comet (and through him Blue) will know everything their foes even think of doing it would be very difficult to tag Blue

Rebuttal 9: Opponent's Offensive

Rebuttal 9A: Cannonball

The feats my opponents links aren't great:

• This is basically just a wall busting feat, he doesn't take out any big structure or anything. Plus like all of Cannonball's feats it requires a lot of lead up

• This feat is again just wall busting, with lead up between the feats

• This is some sort of wooden house and he's clearly charging for like 30-40 feet. If he needs 30-40 feet to get up to "destroys a small wooden house" level, he'll never hurt my team

  • Destroys a building - A 800 square foot wooden house is a building, but does jack shit to my team. a small 10' x 10' concrete cube with a door and windows is a building and does jack shit.
    

• We also don't know how or why the building could collapse. Maybe he took out support beams, or crippled other key infrastructure. As presented its a vague and useless feat

  • Derelict building - Derelict buildings won't be up to structural codes, and can have damaged support beams. Also again nothing in this scan proves that the building is more than 10 feet wide, which would be shit for the tier

• Plus this blow seems to have KO'd him, considering he seems trapped under the rubble

  • Sentinel - He only damaged the sentinel after travelling hundreds of feet with it + a gravity assist. Theres nothing that indicates that if he tried to do similar damage to my team, that he wouldn't have to take like 1-2 seconds charging up an attack

Rebuttal 9B: Ragnarok

• Daken - Daken has been fucked up by being thrown through a tree. This is literally his best durability feat.

  • Daken doesn't have adamantium. The fact that his skull is in one piece after fighting Ragnarok either means Ragnarok holds back massively against foes, or his striking is shit

• Kate Bishop - She gets hit on the third panel

• Cybernetic Removal - None of this counters the fact that all of his good lightning feats are with his original, not EoS hammer.

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Response 2 Part 3

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Rebuttal 9C: Iron Man

• Ton of Rocks - All of Iron Man's dura feats are bad, and far under tier.

  • The linked Iron Man feat literally has him destroying a series of spikey rocks like covering an area maybe 2x his shoulder width. Yeah. Saying this is a couple of tons of rock at most seems fair

• Comet scaling has been addressed

Rebuttal 10: Opponent's Defense

Rebuttal 10A: Cannonball

• Like only two Cannonball dura feats have been provided period, at a minimum this shows that Cannonballs durability is inconsistent

Rebuttal 10B: Ragnarok

• So 2-3 in tier attacks (which my opponent never proved that were from a character who could hit with in tier attacks) and being stabbed a few times are enough to take him out? Sounds pretty easy for Comet to just maelstorm him with sharp things and then hit him a few times

• The Osborn scan doesn't prove Osborn did anything to hold him back in terms of dura.

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Conclusion

In Summary:

• Iron Man gets taken out immediately due to Blue phaseing through him at lighspeed disrupting his electronics

• Ragnarok just gets held by Comet, incapping him

• Cannonball gets thrown around/slowed by Comet's TK

• Blue can tap into IM's armor to amp his electric blasts to the point it oneshots all of my opponents

• It will be very difficult to hit Comet/Blue due Comet reading his opponent's mind

  • This makes Blue especially difficult to hit due to phasing

• Comet can revive Blue, so you have to either kill him or take out Comet first

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