Action Hero Tier Finals

[u/feminist-horsebane]

What are the rules?

• At the start of the round, inform a judge (reddit or discord) of which character you plan to use in the round.
• Write a maximum of one full comment to submit to the judges detailing why you feel your character beats your competitors in a fight.
• Wait for your response to be submitted alongside your competitors, read each others responses, and write a one comment rebuttal.
• At the end of a four day debate period, allow three days for judging. When results are in, the winner will advance to the next round, and be granted the opportunity to steal one character from their past opponents team to join their own. If you don't want anyone on your competitors team, you can save your steal for further rounds (I.E. two steals in R2, etc).
• Each round will be 1v1's, with the exception being a team match in finals of all compiled teammates.

Who is the Tier Setter?

Say hello to The Tierminator.

What else do I need to know?

• Single eliminations.
• Extensions will not be granted in the first two rounds minimum. There are no set time limits on responses as long as all are finished in a four day period.
• Speed is not equalized in any way for this tier.
• There is not a ranged rule. Opponents start with stipulated gear and abilities.
• You must be in tier for every arena, out of tiers will be on what arena is being fought in.

Who won last round?

Fem's judgements

Ame's judgements

Clev's judgements

Who am I fighting?

Brackets

Where are we fighting?

Bass Pro Pyramid

Further Info- start at 22 and 20 respectively, assume 75m apart.

What do I need to do now?

DM me here or on Discord in the next 18 hours before the start of rounds which character you plan to use. Keep in mind you have the ability to steal up to two picks from a defeated opponent, or two from the pool of unchosen characters below.

• Blade Stip: Has his standard gear. No scaling to Deacon or Dracula's bullet timing.
• Scout
• Rubber Soul
• Mannequin (There's also a better [IMO] RT here) Stip: Has all mods from his fights with the Undersiders
• Madame Masque-Iron Man: Armored Adventures-As of Season 1 Episode 11 right before her second fight with Iron Man, Scaling, Stip out this feat
• Bongo Bongo-Legend of Zelda-Cannot be seen without the Lens of Truth, Scaling
• Raizo: stips: two swords, kusarigama, and idk a bunch of shuriken, dressed in ninja garb
• Predalien

-Will be updated

[u/mikhailnikolaievitch]

OoT Claims

Roland OoT

Roland is argued to open the round with a quickdraw several times faster than the tier setter and to fire at him accurately from range with powerful guns targeted at vitals. He is argued to be several times faster than Tierminator who does not dodge.

Since he fires on his opponent several times before his opponent can respond, there's functionally no way for Tierminator to win before Roland does.

As argued, spawning outside LoS there's no reason Roland doesn't just one shot Tierminator several times over.

Jason OoT

Jason is argued to completely no-sell bullets, blitz past or through gunfire, continue to dodge/teleport around his enemy while regenerating, and utilizes a piercing offense that stabs through metal.

Jason just needs to stab once and he instantly kills Tierminator. Tierminator can do literally nothing against an opponent who eats bullets all day and tanks and heals from everything Tierminator does.

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/u/Verlux and /u/feminist-horsebane I think I'm all set here. Thanks for the great round, both of you!

[u/Verlux → u/mikhailnikolaievitch]

OOT Defense

First, I want to preface these both with my opponents own argument of the tier setter capabilities for awareness, given the TS match has no direct LoS from spawn:

This means very little. The Tierminator explicitly has super senses allowing him to see in infrared and is super accurate from long distances away. Terminator's HUD scans for vulnerabilities, scans environment for tactical options, calculates success rate of situations, and predict actions.

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Roland of Gilead

You forget the face of your father for daring to impugn a gunslinger.

1. Roland is necessarily exceptionally faster than the tier setter on the draw and reactions. This is because Roland dies if the Terminator shoots him. Per my opponent's words of the Terminators awareness, this is an absurdly likely outcome regardless.

2. My opponent uses a Barrett .50cal antimaterial rifle antifeat for the Terminator as if it somehow applies to Roland. I explicitly call out Roland as using .45 ACP Winchester rounds, overloaded on the grain. A .50cal delivers 18,050 joules of force. A .45 delivers roughly 800, an overloaded one likely reaching up to 12 or 1400. The Terminator dying in one hit to something over 10 times as powerful as a highball estimate of Rolands firepower isn't applicable for rendering him out of tier.

3. Roland must somehow get the drop on the Terminator, disarm it at range perhaps, and run and gun for some time to take it down. This is not out of tier.

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Jason

1. I've argued repeatedly Jason has hyper awareness of living organisms. This is entirely inverted in the TS match due to the Terminators absurd awareness as my opponent points out, leaving Jason at an enormous disadvantage from the word go.

2. The Terminator, as a result of his intellectual capabilities as pointed out by my opponent, would realize shooting Jason isn't effective from quite some range, and opt for a more effective route: utilizing its immense striking speed advantage to simply remove his head with concrete-wall-shattering strength which Jason cannot survive.

3. Jason can pierce the Terminator, based on feats. I dont deny this. What does NOT occur is the Terminator instantly dying to a small portion of its chassis being impaled, as evidenced by the stat block post pointing out explicitly that the tier setter functions perfectly fine and unimpeded by entire portions of its body missing. Jason impaling the machine results in point 2, above, occurring almost instantly.

4. Jason survives the guns, can possibly out grapple the machine, but if it strikes him his body will be falling apart from the impact immediately, and the Terminator will win. Based on the rationale my own opponent puts forth, this is an immensely likely outcome.

Good tourney, good debate, good shit all around gentlemen