r/TheSilphRoad • u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia • Aug 10 '25
Discussion Raiding is RUINED
With the 200m raid joining "exploit" getting patched, raiding as we knew it has been ruined.
1) The raid ended in the overworld, but if you are in the lobby (120s) or if the battle has already started, you could do the raid no problem. Now if you try to heal your pokemon by exiting out to the lobby, or if they all faint, you'll get kicked
2) If you happened to be in the lobby when the boss dies, you would just automatically get to the "raid win" screen and get the encounter. Now, nothing happens automatically, okay, not the end of the world. But rejoin battle doesnt work either. The raid timer keeps counting down in the lobby, even though the raid has been defeated by other players, you think ok once it gets to 0 it will realize the raid has been won and give me the encounter. No, nothing happens. If the raid is over you don't even get the raid "rewards", much less the encounter. And you just wasted a pass and revives + potions.
And this is all in 3 raids. I was planning to go join my nearby community meetup around 2 pm to do atleast 30 raids, and do the active raid at my home gym in the meantime. This is a nightmare. Raiding is the thing I enjoy most and it has been ruined for me. Not to mention they keep recycling these origin forms with only a "chance" at the moves and apparently they are not even shiny boosted this time.
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u/EoTN Aug 10 '25
Now if you try to heal your pokemon by exiting out to the lobby, or if they all faint, you'll get kicked
This has always been a thing. For events that spawn and have 25 minutes, there's a 5 minute buffer at the end to prevent this from happening. For raids that go 30 minutes, and immediately spawn another 30 minute raid, you cannot safely relobby after the time limit has ended.
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u/ThanosDidNothinWrng0 Aug 11 '25
Why wouldn’t they just stick to the 25 minute ones then?
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u/Resoluteness Aug 11 '25
They should just fix the error. I managed to do an extra raid 5 minutes before the event ended which wouldn't be possible with the 25-minute timer.
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u/A_Morsel_of_a_Morsel Aug 10 '25
I get your frustration, but 1 has happened since the beginning of raiding. It isn’t new. It caused many of us to stay altogether away from raids that have dipped below like 4 minutes on overworld timer.
2 was more rare, because it was definitely more “glitchy” and could go either way, but it is not new either.
These just don’t have anything to do with their radius update, short of if they were simple glitches and the update reinforced the glitch or something.
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u/PokeReddit1188 Aug 10 '25
I wonder how long it will take for Niantic to see that they didnt do themselfes a favour with patching that slight gps-drift. They gain ten raidpasses less perday only from me because of that.
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u/HovercraftDry7850 Aug 10 '25
I personally hope they revert this change asap. The reduced raid radius doesn’t make sense, and you’re now forced to stay within the small radius of the gym until the boss is killed, just in case you faint or the app crashes. Groups can’t even start walking to the next raid after starting the first one.
Raiding is by far the most profitable thing in this game - why on earth would they reduce their capacity to make money off raiding??
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u/jason_the_slate Aug 10 '25
After the raid starts you can move up to 240m for the extended range and you can rejoin, or anywhere if you don't have to rejoin without being kicked.
You have to be in 80m until the raid starts and you do the first damage.
I agree though that the change is terrible for raiding especially in summer when the events are more prominent.
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u/twirlnumb Aug 10 '25
This is useful to know. Where do you get the info?
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u/jason_the_slate Aug 10 '25
The 80m range for gyms is common knowledge, you can test it for yourself with gmaps/gearth.
The 240m rejoin range is the same range where the trick used to work before, and as I played around 2 years using that, I knew the specific spots you have to go for the gyms that were furthest from our meeting spot.
And then if you check on the map it's around 240, definitely less than 250 so it's probably exactly 240 to be 3 times the radius of the interact circle.
Same for the smallest circle, it's 40meters, where you can encounter Pokemons.
Others in our community have confirmed those numbers, it's not too hard to test, especially before with the glitch.
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u/samfun Aug 10 '25
You don't have to be within 80m when the raid starts. I've tested it after the fix and it's well above 150m and likely still 240m
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u/jason_the_slate Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
I have been kicked from the raid at least two times before it started due to drift after the fix. And it was specifically my cheap phone that drifts more often. Maybe it's inconsistent I don't know. I can test it some other time when I don't care about the raid mon.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 10 '25
I doubt they would revert the change to allow the glitch but maybe they could officially increase the radius
Also, there is obviously an optimal radius size or they’d just 10x the radius for “profit” and let you use raid passes on anything you can see and call it a day
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u/Unambiguous-Doughnut Aug 12 '25
It coincides with the upcoming max raid event, probably a means to stop people like me who commute snipe on the bus to join raids i Know i can beat, lower range means the timer will run out by the time i've passed the point of joining.
for starters 1 star raids should just give you the option to ready up straight away rather then messing around.
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u/bloop-loop Aug 11 '25
The better way to increase profits is probably increasing the catch rate. I could've done way more raids if the catch circle was green like some other raid events.
Since the adventure effect move is so rare I did not want to just flee encounters, so throwing Premier Balls at low catch rates slowed down my ability to do more raids.
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u/Unambiguous-Doughnut Aug 12 '25
Hell Ive had it golden razz and excellent curveball on every shot and the git still ran away.... others I missed the circle and didn't golden razz and it caught straight away, gotten to the point where I will throw a normal pinap berry until 5 balls remain then golden razz because I don't see the increased catch rate the golder razz supposedly provides half the time.
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u/sockerguy Aug 10 '25
I couldn’t agree more. My community is raiding way less than they were now.
Hundreds of unused raid passes plus hundreds of remote raiders that would have joined these…
Granted, Lugia isn’t so desirable. Hoping that Niantic sees a huge deficit on Origin Raid day compared to their expectations.
60+ less raid passes will be used between myself and my partner, alone…
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u/TristanwithaT USA - Southwest Aug 10 '25
A bit dramatic much? I don’t see how these changes will affect 99% of players.
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u/real_fyshi Aug 10 '25
These 99% of players don't matter to Niantic, it's the 1% whales who spent hundreds on passes every month, who now don't anymore. They will definitely notice a dramatic decrease in pass sales over the next few months.
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u/castihell Aug 10 '25
Exactly! I used to do between 5 and 20 raids on a normal day. Raid days I'd do +50 with my gf each and major events we'd do over 200 in a day.
Since this "fix", I can no longer reach the 3 gyms around my house anymore. We have been going through multiple back to back heat waves and I have done 0 raids in the past 3 weeks because I rarely leave the house.
Today's raid day for Palkia and Dialga there was no way I was going out with 40 degrees (Celsius) so we both did 0 raids today. Plus, we have done 0 remote raids since the "fix", so way to go Niantic: I hope that brings you the extra income you thought you were missing out with this glitch. Yeah, because every green pass we used with this "glitch" is a remote lost. Idiots.
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u/dod6666 Wellington NZ Beta Tester Aug 10 '25
You can walk away as long as the raid timer isn't low.
If the raid is still active, and you get kicked, wait for the boss to be defeated. Then tap the gym and you will be taken to the catch screen.
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u/East-Unit-3257 Aug 10 '25
Before today's raid day I skipped using even my free pass for almost 3 days in a row. I haven't raided a single Lugia either
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 10 '25
I’m confused by people who say this because of the glitch being removed because isn’t actually going to the raid the whole point of the game?
Granted lugia isn’t that desirable but did you not leave your house for 3 days/would you not have walked or driven over to raid?
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u/hidup_sihat Aug 10 '25
I live in apartment. There's 2 gym just outside interaction radius. When I open PoGo at home and there is raid at the gym, It so pain I have to go out of the house, take the elevator down, walk 20-30 meters, just to do the raid.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 10 '25
Same here, I’m on one and two just outside of radius
I’ll say I do think they should increase the radius but the glitch radius size was massive
I also leave the house all the time anyways so it’s not too bad to go down
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u/candyhorse968 Aug 10 '25
Idk about the original commenter, but I personally don’t have a group to play with outside of scheduled meetups so if there’s nothing interesting and soloable on the days in between why bother?
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 10 '25
Isn’t that the same without the glitches? Unless you’re saying about bunch of glitchers glitch to the same raid when they see others there, all while everybody sits at home
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u/pkmdpoint Aug 10 '25
No, as a solo player I rely on inviting strangers through apps like Genie. The queues on genies for the hosts are usually 30/40 minutes long: staying at home, with the glitch, I could easily host while doing other things at home and waiting for the lobbies to fill up. Now there’s absolutely no way I’m waiting 40 minutes under a gym just for a raid. I stopped raiding all together: they’re missing all my green tickets and the remote ones of the people I was inviting.
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u/candyhorse968 Aug 10 '25
My comment was about why someone might not use the free raid pass every day
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u/MostPrestigiousCorgi Aug 10 '25
Imho the fix happened before the Dialga/Palkia/Shadow Kyogre to test the waters.
If earning worsen I guess we'll se some gym reworking in the next months, but tbh my hype for the game is quite gone.
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u/Aromatic_Cold2681 Aug 10 '25
I’ve only done one raid since they made the change whereas before I would’ve done raids every single day including paid battle passes too. If I want to do 5 raids in a day, I don’t want to have to time up my walk perfectly or have to go in and out of the house 5 times in the day. Now it looks like the battle passes I bought are going to last me months to actually use
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u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia Aug 10 '25
Oh absolutely. On necrozma fusion raid day I managed to do 45+ raids in a community meetup. With it gone the maximum we can manage is like 35
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u/MasterNoble Aug 10 '25
I don't do this exploit and even without doing it I'm getting kicked. What ever patch they've implemented has messed the game up for non exploiters. This along with shinies being turned off or odds being messed up and a slue of other things happening. I'm not a happy camper and I'm not even a day one player. I feel for you all.
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u/SilverGoon UK & Ireland Aug 10 '25
From what I heard, it wasn't someone on here who brought it to the attention of Niantic. It was a community ambassador who literally showed someone at niantic the trick and asked if it was ok to do it.
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u/Bolf-Ramshield Aug 10 '25
I’m completely out of the loop, what was the trick?
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u/OSRS_Socks Aug 10 '25
Basically with iPhone you would see a gym nearby with a raid, swipe down on the top left of the phone (notifications have to be shown when swiping down) and then you flick that screen of notifications back up fast and spam join the the raid as you do. If done correctly you will use a green/orange pass instead of a remote. It wasn’t a a big deal. You still had to be very close to the gym to do it but it made raiding easier
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u/UndeadCaesar Aug 10 '25
I did it on iOS by switching apps back and forth really fast by swiping across the bottom of the screen. When you switched back to the app you could mash the join button.
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u/OttoVonWong Africa Aug 10 '25
You were able to join a raid within visual distance using a regular raid pass instead of a remote.
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u/TEFAlpha9 UK & Ireland Aug 10 '25
It wasn't in visual distance it was a specific distance, not too far but not super close. It really only benefited you if you lived just out of range of some raids or struggled getting close enough to a gym. It was really helpful and they should have just made spacial rend give you the same effect so it's a game feature instead of an exploit.
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u/nnq2603 Aug 10 '25
Idk why they introduce the trick in details for Niantic to decide, people used it for ages without problem. What did they gain after that "fix"?
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u/dod6666 Wellington NZ Beta Tester Aug 10 '25
Hopefully said community ambassador doesn't know about quick catching.
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u/nolkel L50 Aug 10 '25
The devs have explicitly fixed quick catching before after they broke it with some visual updates to the catching process. Dunno if those devs still work at the company, but it's been an unofficially supported feature for years.
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u/Paweron Aug 10 '25
Oh please, I learned about this trick on reddit 3 years ago. It's been around forever and well known. Some guy making a reddit post has nothing to do with this
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u/hidup_sihat Aug 10 '25
Back then you could even use this trick anywhere.
1. Get remote invite from across the world.
2. Do the GPS trick.
3. You will use Orange/Green raid pass instead of raid remote pass
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u/Melodic_Diamond2227 Aug 10 '25
I made a post in another thread talking about it, i’ll just and paste it here since it’s relevant.
“Also, it was really annoying I wasn’t able to do the switch between tabs trick in order to use the orange/green pass. I was playing in a central business district, with a lot of high rise buildings, and which causes a lot of drift even on ground level. There were so many instances where I would be standing at the gym, but I was drifted maybe 50 metres away, making me too far away to join the lobby. This was such a blunder, and it needs to be emphasised even more than it already has.”
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u/SaltedNeos Aug 10 '25
Both of these have always been the case, the second one is just a bug that occurs sometimes.
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u/PKblaze Aug 10 '25
The biggest issue is server connectivity and being removed from raids because the timer has ended. Either don't let me join when there's 6 minutes on the clock, or patch it so that you can still access both the raid and pokemon when the timer has ended but you are participating in a battle.
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u/Different-Ruin-1960 Aug 10 '25
I never used this "exploit" so it hasn't directly impacted me. However, I do think it's funny when people show up in these threads preaching about the developers patched it to ensure people are playing the game "the right way", even if it means they lose revenue with the patch.
They patched it because it allowed people to use premium passes for raids instead of remote ones. They think this will result in increased revenue. It's not about "playing the game the right way," don't kid yourself.
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u/SuperMilkshakeNerd Aug 10 '25
Yeah exactly. Don't kid yourself, there's never "the right way", just more revenue way. I mean I've read people get extremely mean here over this and it's just funny.
All games have these"cheat codes" and "exploits" which are sometimes left on purpose to attract players.
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u/real_fyshi Aug 10 '25
To add to this, as I guess the "glitch fix" is responsible for this as well: After switching apps (chat, map, etc.) I constantly had the issue of no Pokemon spawning anymore and not being able to do dyna raids, until I restarted or some time went by. And every few times of switching I got GPS not found messages and had to restart. Could be that it has to do with the game causing way more and heavier teleport drifts when the game is in background now. Honestly I just don't know what bug is the reason of whatother bug, this game is just too broken now.
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Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
Literally them patching that "bug" made it so im raiding significantly less than before.
Im at like 1 in person a week if the rotation is good lol
Actually edit: just tried raiding my one closest gym to me and couldn't because of the "patch" to this "bug". So I guess that makes it 0 a week then, 1 in EXTREME rare circumstances
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 10 '25
Not sure what either of these have to do with the exploit, unless they broke something else while trying to patch it
If your enjoyment was contingent on the glitch, you might want to reconsider how you play. None do those issues apply to me when I go out and raid in person.
I don’t start raids if they’re close to ending, whether in person or remote or trying to glitch to a nearby one
If the encounter doesn’t trigger, it triggers right away when I click back on the raid if I am at the stop
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u/EdoGtz Aug 10 '25 edited Aug 10 '25
I won't EVER spend a remote pass in a raid that is just 1-2 blocks away, that i can easily reach walking.... specially not for a repeated not usefull pokemon (that doesn't worth to even walk to the gym).
This glitch was useful for me to HOST raids and spend PREMIUM PASSES like crazy in events inviting people remotely. Beside that, i was also able to spend my free pass daily in T5 raids inviting everyday 4-10 players remotely in my schedule... when my friends can't play nor help me... whenever i want to play, and from a safe and comfy location (sitting in a bench in the park from where i can reach multiple gyms, protected from the scorching sun or the rain, where i can eat something, etc.). Now i'm back to be forced to be standing in exact short range of the gym, depending of the time schedule of others in person players and what raid pokemon show up when i can go out to play... and nope, it doesn't worth the free time of an adult. So i preffer to raid whatever i can solo or simply not raid at all. Luckily i didn't buy another premium passes box right before the glitch was patched.
PS: IMO.. remote passes are to raid with people around the world, internationally... not to raid a pokemon that is around the corner or a few mts in the same park. Maybe the extended range of the glitch could be an advantage of the PREMIUM PASSES no?... 'cause currently they doesn't feel special/premium at all.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 10 '25
I won't EVER spend a remote pass in a raid that is just 1-2 blocks away, that i can easily reach walking.... specially not for a repeated not usefull pokemon (that doesn't worth to even walk to the gym).
I imagine they want/expect you to walk 1-2 blocks and if you can’t be bothered then so be it
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u/UnitededConflict Aug 10 '25
Why would they do that and still leave the old system for remote raids? I'm still able to leave to lobby heal and rejoin for remotes but now not for in person? Thats dumb.
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u/128thMic Westralia Aug 10 '25
Why would they do that and still leave the old system for remote raids?
9% chance it's simply unintentional, a side effect of Niantic's spaghetti code being tweaked and breakin' something unintentionally.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 10 '25
You should be able to leave the lobby and rejoin, provided you didn’t start a raid too late and have it expire while you left. If that’s the case, then it’s always been like that and have nothing to do with the patch
Otherwise, unless they broke something new trying to fix the patch, it has nothing to do with the patch
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u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia Aug 10 '25
All this started happening since the patch
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u/marsalien4 Aug 10 '25
These have been happening long before, though?
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u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia Aug 10 '25
I literally wrote out what used to happen before vs what happens now.
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u/Peter_Honig Central Europe Aug 10 '25
Is that even related though? Patching the exploit is one thing, but this sounds like bugs unintentionally introduced in the latest patches. They will definitely get fixed. Annoying for now of course
Regarding the exploit I'm hearing mixed responses from my community. Some didn't even know about it, some used it from time to time, and not very many used it regularly. I would actually guess most players didn't even know about it
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u/nolkel L50 Aug 10 '25
Most people weren't even aware of the GPS exploit as it was. Raiding overall isn't ruined.
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u/jjh008 Aug 10 '25
What was this exploit?
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u/nolkel L50 Aug 11 '25
You could turn gps off and on again to make the game think you're at the gym to use a regular pass instead of a remote, but you still had to be like 200m away.
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u/jjh008 Aug 11 '25
Oh I see. Thanks for explaining. I wouldnt do that, but not judging how others play.
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u/Elite4hebi Aug 10 '25
You can be sure this won't be fixed by Niantic because it doesn't benefit the players.
They'll only fix glitches that actively makes their game better.
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u/HovercraftDry7850 Aug 10 '25
Why wouldn’t they want to sell more raid passes?
I suggest they just increase gym radius to 200m without the glitch…
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u/mtlyoshi9 Aug 10 '25
They do want to sell more raid passes. More remote raid passes, that is - which are far more lucrative and that this change encourages.
That’s the kind of thinking, obviously. Whether it’ll work out or not none of us here can say.
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u/Adamant_Leaf_76 Aug 10 '25
Remotes are far too expensive for a spontaneous raid, especially if the target isn't premium. Which is even the idea behind the high price.
If you consider all their actions, they see the primary way to play such events in gatherings of dozens of people at the train station (or wherever the gym density is highest). Probably hoping it will make news again like in 2016.
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u/UndeadCaesar Aug 10 '25
That's the confusing thing is that this actively hurts them. Before I could host from my couch with the drift glitch and Poke Genie, and Niantic would get the revenue from those five other people buying remote raid passes, even if I was using my free one. Now they just get nothing.
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u/zeplin411 Aug 10 '25
The newest issue I have experienced is that I can't remotely join raids if I am in a building. The GPS drift is too bad and it errors me out. Another issue I just recently discovered is if you are remoting a raid and the raid ends before you get to the catch screen, you don't get an encounter. It just swings you back home.
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u/TEFAlpha9 UK & Ireland Aug 10 '25
Some CA forced Niantic to officially respond about it, causing it to be removed.
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u/whatthedeuce1990 Asia Aug 10 '25
I did 16, and i felt like it's a century with all the kicked out of raids and timer glitches. Even with a popular boss like these, i don't feel motivated to raid anymore. This will be it at least for the foreseeable future i guess. Raiding experience has never felt more mundane than before.
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u/esotericmoyer Aug 10 '25
I understand the complaints about access, usability, and ease of use, but how does this make raiding more mundane?
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u/whatthedeuce1990 Asia Aug 10 '25
It's not about the raiding complaint, you'd expect that for an event that is hyped for months they would at least iron all the bugs out but for every single event there is going to be new bugs introduced. So the "rhythm" is broken, and you gradually lose interest.
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u/esotericmoyer Aug 10 '25
I see. So you’re saying you notice that it’s mundane now. Because I’ve always felt raids were mundane.
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u/soulus98 Aug 10 '25
Forgive me for being dumb, what is this glitch you all speak of that’s apparently been patched? I raided today and had no issues
Besides doing 65 raids with no shiny of course
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u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia Aug 10 '25
You could join a raid within 200m using daily/premium pass instead of remote. This allowed people to manage a bunch of extra raids during major raid events
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u/soulus98 Aug 10 '25
I see. I believe 200m is the safe radius once in the lobby before the raid starts so it seems the exploit was involving that.
But did it affect the during or after raid behaviour? People are saying they weren’t able to walk/drive during raids which I didn’t find an issue with
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u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia Aug 10 '25
You can get kicked from the raid if all your pokemon faint/you want to relobby/random lag spike and you're not within that radius and the raid pass will be consumed. They've fixed the 200m joining part but you still get kicked from raids randomly
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u/herecomes_the_sun Aug 10 '25
Two sounds like a glitch to me. I was raiding today for the event when all my Pokemon died and dialga was beat while i was resetting my team. I clicked rejoin and it brought me to the encounter fine. Sorry that happened to you and i hope you chat with the support folks (take a photo of your journal) to get that enoucnter back
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u/azure-flute USA - Midwest | LV47 - Valor Aug 11 '25
The first detail mentioned by op has been an issue for a long while, unfortunately, and is just a hazard of starting a raid when the raid's about to end.
I raid often and enjoy doing so, and I've never knowingly abused this glitch. I'm not quite certain how it's the end of the world for people who like raiding, honestly. I can see how it's useful, but... generally you shouldn't be raiding while GPS drift is happening or while you're in a car/actively moving away from the raid?
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u/Shandriel Western Europe Aug 11 '25
Haha...
Remember when we did dozens of Kyurem raids and didn't get the signature move because they messed up the raid "hours" here in central europe?!
I literally have some 8 or 10 Kyurems that didn't receive the move when they should have.. and they never even acknowledged that mess...
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u/VincentLawless Aug 10 '25
I have 2 gyms just barely out of reach at a coffee shop I frequent. Used to be able to use the exploit which made me not have to get up and leave to do the raids. I do more raids and Niantic gets more money win win?
Yet Niantic saw this as an issue to be fixed instead of the millions of other bugs that are detrimental.
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u/Ren_Kaos Aug 10 '25
I hate that last week, after dinner and drinks out with my friends, the five of us walked down a block to do a mega aerodactyl. Well we got there and my avatar was the only one who hadn’t left the restaurant for some reason. I had to force close the app a couple times to finally be able to join the raid I was standing on. I hate knowing that I could be banned for “ExPlOiTiNg”.
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u/shofmon88 Sydney Community Ambassador Aug 10 '25
That’s not the behaviour that the exploit is based on. In fact, Niantic recommends closing and reopening the app fully as the best way to avoid getting flagged for GPS exploits. General drift is also expected and not flagged.
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u/MattEGM1 Aug 10 '25
Meh.
The raid lobby strength should always be assessed in response to point one. I wouldn't start a raid with less than 5 minutes until despawn unless i have an organised team of raiders. If people keep taking this chance with weak Pokemon and a weak lobby then they might need to reevaluate what they're doing and power up their Pokemon, ensure they're keeping a Mega evolved Pokemon in the game as long as possible and dodge more.
I've never had point two happen, I was in a lobby just near the end of the raid as recently as yesterday and the rewards cut scene started before I was able to re-enter the battle.
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u/toblat170 Aug 10 '25
The posts in this community have been "the sky is falling" lately, has anyone noticed that as well? I've never used this exploit, and I honestly don't understand what the fuss is all about. The game is called Pokémon Go after all, learn to enjoy the Go part
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u/RavenousDave UK & Ireland L50 - Valor Aug 10 '25
It is all rather amusing to those of us who don't live 50m away from half a dozen gyms. I think I have managed to get the local gyms up to half a dozen in a one kilometer radius. I had to convert "city block" to real units, apparently my nearest gyms is four blocks away. I clearly deserve some kind of award for coping with such inhumane conditions.
I must remember to point out how impossible it is to host a raid, if you can't do it while sitting on your rear end, the next time someone tells a rural player to "just host raids". Something that always grinds my gears. Hosting is a piece of cake from your couch, and a piece of something else entirely while standing in the rain.
But, as we all know there are multiple version of the game;
Pokemon Go (for a walk)
Pokemon Go (for a drive)
Pokemon Go (nowhere)
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 10 '25
People got used to drifting and basically remoting/flying instead of actually walking and are now upset that they actually have to go and play the game like it was intended
Literally people used to just glitch from home or office or a pub and not walk to raids, which misses the point
Not surprised they patched it, even at the expense of revenue
If people stop playing because they can’t be bothered to actually go and play, then it looks like they’re taking the trade off even if it loses them revenue
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u/kruddel Aug 11 '25
As far as I could see it was more used for random raids, like people noticed a raid lobby open and jumped in. That's much more possible when you have a wider distance to interact with the gym.
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u/iDoinz Aug 10 '25
If you used it you'd never go back. We did 6 hours of raids today walking. We dont have to walk far because of the gyms I made but we could sit in the park as a large community and reach those same 8
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u/oCinzento Aug 10 '25
pokemon go yet the game has remote passes, lures and auto catchers sure bro nice argument
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u/jimmyt212 Aug 10 '25
Such a tiny inconvenience to play the game without using an exploit, that a tiny % of the base actually uses but it’s the end of the world, THIS is the hill to die upon with raiding…
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u/Due-Cupcake-0701 Aug 10 '25
I've never done either of these things and raid just fine. Got to lvl 43 in a little over a year. Why would you want to join the raid right when it's over? I guess i don't get it
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u/This_Tangerine3080 Aug 10 '25
Was this an iPhone glitch?
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u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia Aug 10 '25
Unsure if it worked on ios, it definitely worked on android so it wasnt ios exclusive
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u/This_Tangerine3080 Aug 10 '25
Ive his issue of being kicked saying the raid is completed but not been blocked from rejoining
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u/danjel888 Aug 10 '25
Haven't done a single raid since the patch.
Used to spend loads of passes. Oh well.
Gg Niantic, played yourselves again.
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u/zachari94 Aug 10 '25
I literally got the 100 raid bundle for 5400 the day before they patched it. I have 3 gyms I used to regularly host on third party apps, especially on the regionals. Now I host nothing. It’s hard to get out of where i am with a baby so was perfect for me during the day. Events I used to go to all the time but now don’t bother because half the group who sat in a pub, the carriers, don’t bother.
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u/Jade0319 Aug 10 '25
You can try submitting a ticket that the purchase was accidental. They will usually remove the 100 passes and return the coins.
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u/sbenfsonwFFiF Aug 10 '25
Sounds like the antithesis of what Pokemon go intended (going out and raiding) if most of their player base was just glitching from home and glitching sitting in a pub
Maybe they enforced the change so people would play the game as intended or not at all, even with lower revenue
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u/kruddel Aug 11 '25
80 m is still quite a long way. It's more than enough for some people in a pub to join a raid and stay in the pub if the gym happens to be the other side of the street, or 4/5 doors down.
I get what you mean in principle, but it doesn't really bear up to scrutiny to say people sitting in a pub and jumping into a raid 120 m away is the antithesis of Pokemon Go, but people sitting in a pub and jumping into a raid 80 m away, or people sitting in a pub and all jumping into a raid in another country whilst paying twice as much is Pokemon Go as intended.
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u/EnvironmentalSun2716 Aug 10 '25
Exactly. But hysterical threads like this will always be catnip to a number of people on here.
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u/noghostmotel Aug 10 '25
Support sucks too, they barely give you, your raid pass back, and no way to challenge it
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u/Dementron Aug 11 '25
I knew remote raiders would get kicked if they got kicked to the lobby to heal after the raid ended, but I didn't think it affected local players. Did I misremember, or was it because I started the fight then walked ten feet out of range and sat down? Either way I think it's unacceptable.
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u/UCanDoNEthing4_30sec USA - California - lvl 50 Aug 11 '25
I think all the cheaters just saw your first sentence and agreed, but didn’t bother to read the rest of your post.
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u/TheBustyFriend Aug 12 '25
I never knew the exploit existed so I don't think raiding is ruined or even affected for me.
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u/auturmis Aug 12 '25
Been doing all these since long ago. The first one is a known issue hence I don't raid at the last minute. Have only encountered the rest of the issues like once or twice and it's obviously a bug or network error.
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u/Jthiesen2 Aug 12 '25
I dont think they have patched the raid exploit yet they just said you could get banned.
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u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia Aug 12 '25
They have. It got patched within days of that announcement
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u/MistyCeruleanCity Aug 10 '25
Sorry, but if you are already 200 metres away from the gym, where is the raid is. What is exactly preventing you from walking to be in range of the raid itself?
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u/Misato-san7 Italy Aug 10 '25
Time, location of the gym are two easy reasons. 200 metres by air are often way more when you walk. Saving time we were able to use more passes
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u/danjel888 Aug 10 '25
At home... looking after kids asleep in bed. Can't leave the house.
You know... life?
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u/Paweron Aug 10 '25
For one gym: a railway.
When using pokegenie you are often waiting for like 30mins until support is ready. When that happens you have 3min to start the raid. When I am sitting at my desk waiting for my phone to vibrate, I don't want to run outside in a hurry every time.
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u/ellyse99 Aug 10 '25
Sometimes, you’re not 200m away, but your avatar is. I could be standing right at the gym location but my avatar is somewhere else. Very common in Asian cities
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u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia Aug 10 '25
Did you even read the post? My main gripe isnt even with that "exploit" being patched, its the other bugs that came along with that change.
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u/MostPrestigiousCorgi Aug 10 '25
I work from home 4 days a week and I used to take a small coffee pause and do a raid, I have 2 gyms 20m away from home and 1 from the office, I don't want to waste time dressing if I'm at home and I can't casually leave for a few minutes if I'm in the office.
In my free time I have better stuff to do tbh.
Also I'm hosting on pokegenie, so timing everything and waiting alone in the middle of the street under the rain or the sun is not my idea of fun.
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u/stickyplants Aug 10 '25
You think raiding is ruined because you had problems abusing a bug? The community has been warned that they are aware people do this, it’s against the rules, and that they’re actually attempting to put a stop to it.
Just walk across the street, or drive and park closer.
I’m sorry, but this is the stupidest complaint ever.
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u/TheBigFatToad Aug 10 '25
You would think they increased the remote raid price to 500 coins with all the whinging going on here.
Becomes hilarious when you realize that the mechanic taken away is they can no longer fly from gym to gym while they sit on their couch.
The only point with any sort of validity is that revenue dropped from people buying less orange passes.
Everything else is people got used to the laziness and now theyre irate they have to walk around now.
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u/Leocul Korea & USA | Lvl 50 Aug 10 '25
Those issues are frustrating, and I hope they are addressed ASAP. But I am still glad the exploit is fixed cause with the exploit so many raid hours/events I attended at the local park were just people mostly sitting in their cars or stepping out to chat but still not moving from their cars and using the exploit to hit all the raids from the parking lot. It's nice to see people stepping away from their cars and raiding in a group walking around again.
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u/kruddel Aug 11 '25
I get that, but it only applies in specific situations where the gyms in question are more than 80m, but less than 200m from the carpark. Because if they're within 80m, everyone still stays in their car.
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u/SilentKiller2809 South East Asia Aug 10 '25
Finally someone who isn't insufferable, I understand your pov
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u/succuboobies Central Europe Aug 10 '25
Oh my god it's patched? I've been trying to do this for the past 2 days, thought something was wrong but.... damn
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u/TheRealHankWolfman UK & Ireland - Yorkshire - Mystic - L50 Aug 10 '25
The first one was happening long before the trick was patched. You shouldn't do raids close to the boss refreshing unless you're sure you can beat it without your team fainting.