Raiding is RUINED

[u/SilentKiller2809]

With the 200m raid joining "exploit" getting patched, raiding as we knew it has been ruined.

1) The raid ended in the overworld, but if you are in the lobby (120s) or if the battle has already started, you could do the raid no problem. Now if you try to heal your pokemon by exiting out to the lobby, or if they all faint, you'll get kicked

2) If you happened to be in the lobby when the boss dies, you would just automatically get to the "raid win" screen and get the encounter. Now, nothing happens automatically, okay, not the end of the world. But rejoin battle doesnt work either. The raid timer keeps counting down in the lobby, even though the raid has been defeated by other players, you think ok once it gets to 0 it will realize the raid has been won and give me the encounter. No, nothing happens. If the raid is over you don't even get the raid "rewards", much less the encounter. And you just wasted a pass and revives + potions.

And this is all in 3 raids. I was planning to go join my nearby community meetup around 2 pm to do atleast 30 raids, and do the active raid at my home gym in the meantime. This is a nightmare. Raiding is the thing I enjoy most and it has been ruined for me. Not to mention they keep recycling these origin forms with only a "chance" at the moves and apparently they are not even shiny boosted this time.

[u/PokeReddit1188]

I wonder how long it will take for Niantic to see that they didnt do themselfes a favour with patching that slight gps-drift. They gain ten raidpasses less perday only from me because of that.

[u/HovercraftDry7850 → u/PokeReddit1188]

I personally hope they revert this change asap. The reduced raid radius doesn’t make sense, and you’re now forced to stay within the small radius of the gym until the boss is killed, just in case you faint or the app crashes. Groups can’t even start walking to the next raid after starting the first one.

Raiding is by far the most profitable thing in this game - why on earth would they reduce their capacity to make money off raiding??

[u/jason_the_slate → u/HovercraftDry7850]

After the raid starts you can move up to 240m for the extended range and you can rejoin, or anywhere if you don't have to rejoin without being kicked.

You have to be in 80m until the raid starts and you do the first damage.

I agree though that the change is terrible for raiding especially in summer when the events are more prominent.

[u/twirlnumb → u/jason_the_slate]

This is useful to know. Where do you get the info?

[u/jason_the_slate → u/twirlnumb]

The 80m range for gyms is common knowledge, you can test it for yourself with gmaps/gearth.

The 240m rejoin range is the same range where the trick used to work before, and as I played around 2 years using that, I knew the specific spots you have to go for the gyms that were furthest from our meeting spot.

And then if you check on the map it's around 240, definitely less than 250 so it's probably exactly 240 to be 3 times the radius of the interact circle.

Same for the smallest circle, it's 40meters, where you can encounter Pokemons.

Others in our community have confirmed those numbers, it's not too hard to test, especially before with the glitch.

[u/samfun → u/jason_the_slate]

You don't have to be within 80m when the raid starts. I've tested it after the fix and it's well above 150m and likely still 240m

[u/jason_the_slate → u/samfun]

I have been kicked from the raid at least two times before it started due to drift after the fix. And it was specifically my cheap phone that drifts more often. Maybe it's inconsistent I don't know. I can test it some other time when I don't care about the raid mon.

[u/sbenfsonwFFiF → u/HovercraftDry7850]

I doubt they would revert the change to allow the glitch but maybe they could officially increase the radius

Also, there is obviously an optimal radius size or they’d just 10x the radius for “profit” and let you use raid passes on anything you can see and call it a day

[u/FearTheOldData → u/sbenfsonwFFiF]

I think you give too much merit to Niantic. They are just clueless imho

[u/Unambiguous-Doughnut → u/sbenfsonwFFiF]

It coincides with the upcoming max raid event, probably a means to stop people like me who commute snipe on the bus to join raids i Know i can beat, lower range means the timer will run out by the time i've passed the point of joining.

for starters 1 star raids should just give you the option to ready up straight away rather then messing around.

[u/bloop-loop → u/sbenfsonwFFiF]

The better way to increase profits is probably increasing the catch rate. I could've done way more raids if the catch circle was green like some other raid events.

Since the adventure effect move is so rare I did not want to just flee encounters, so throwing Premier Balls at low catch rates slowed down my ability to do more raids.

[u/Unambiguous-Doughnut → u/bloop-loop]

Hell Ive had it golden razz and excellent curveball on every shot and the git still ran away.... others I missed the circle and didn't golden razz and it caught straight away, gotten to the point where I will throw a normal pinap berry until 5 balls remain then golden razz because I don't see the increased catch rate the golder razz supposedly provides half the time.

[u/sockerguy → u/HovercraftDry7850]

I couldn’t agree more. My community is raiding way less than they were now.

Hundreds of unused raid passes plus hundreds of remote raiders that would have joined these…

Granted, Lugia isn’t so desirable. Hoping that Niantic sees a huge deficit on Origin Raid day compared to their expectations.

60+ less raid passes will be used between myself and my partner, alone…

[u/TristanwithaT → u/sockerguy]

A bit dramatic much? I don’t see how these changes will affect 99% of players.

[u/real_fyshi → u/TristanwithaT]

These 99% of players don't matter to Niantic, it's the 1% whales who spent hundreds on passes every month, who now don't anymore. They will definitely notice a dramatic decrease in pass sales over the next few months.

[u/castihell → u/HovercraftDry7850]

Exactly! I used to do between 5 and 20 raids on a normal day. Raid days I'd do +50 with my gf each and major events we'd do over 200 in a day.

Since this "fix", I can no longer reach the 3 gyms around my house anymore. We have been going through multiple back to back heat waves and I have done 0 raids in the past 3 weeks because I rarely leave the house.

Today's raid day for Palkia and Dialga there was no way I was going out with 40 degrees (Celsius) so we both did 0 raids today. Plus, we have done 0 remote raids since the "fix", so way to go Niantic: I hope that brings you the extra income you thought you were missing out with this glitch. Yeah, because every green pass we used with this "glitch" is a remote lost. Idiots.

[u/dod6666 → u/HovercraftDry7850]

You can walk away as long as the raid timer isn't low.

If the raid is still active, and you get kicked, wait for the boss to be defeated. Then tap the gym and you will be taken to the catch screen.