r/UFOs • u/TommyShelbyPFB • 6d ago

Disclosure New Army Witness - Former Intelligence officer Caison Best shares his UFO experience - "Massive, perfectly still, elliptical object". The panels on the object seemed to be moving and rippling. “I can relate to… being a caveman and seeing an iPhone for the first time. It was just a shocking object.”

Caison was ignored by his chain of command, they tried burying this story, until he was connected with Ryan Graves' organization "Americans for Safe Aerospace".

https://x.com/uncertainvector/status/1962972294470627385

https://twitter-thread.com/t/1962970646222180738

In 2022, near Cheyenne Mountain Space Force Base, Caison and four colleagues witnessed a UAP. What happened next reveals how institutions fail those who serve.

The next day, Caison filed a formal intelligence report with corroborating witness accounts.

Instead of urgency, he was met with indifference. Reporting channels were buried. Official replies were dismissive. This was over one of America’s most sensitive security sites.

That could have been the end. But in 2023, Caison connected with ASA (Americans for Safe Aerospace. By 2024, he was leading our reporting program. Since then, he has helped process nearly 800 reports and interviewed 50+ credible witnesses, many of them aviators and intelligence officers.

The lesson is clear.
Institutions are failing credible witnesses. Civil society must step in.

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u/Yurope 6d ago

I love the analogy of "like moving a mouse cursor" in regards to their flying. Shocking, sure, but so is seeing a boeing 747 fly for the first time...

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u/shutup_imeating_dirt 6d ago

The way I described mine was like a puck moving around an air hockey table

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u/Twiki-04 6d ago

Look up videos of magnetic pucks moving around a track using quantum locking levitation.

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u/HeardwhatIsaidTone 5d ago

Shit blew my mind when I first saw that and that was like damn near 15 years ago so just imagine

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u/Observervation 5d ago

Goes hand in hand with all the theories coming out of Antarctica.

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u/swaldrin 13h ago

Is Antarctica producing theories on magnetism?

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u/JimmieTheGent 5d ago

Have you seen this bad boy? Same principle as the superconductor on a track.

https://youtu.be/bvYUq6Ox0Hc?si=-FC4mRZtXlGwmfmj

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u/ghostcatzero 6d ago

Which makes sense. Those pucks are constantly gliding over move air. Kind of liek the meglev train. I'm certain these UFOs use some sort of electromagnetism for flight.

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u/Ryukyo 5d ago

whenever I hear someone speak about anti-gravity tech, and they break it down in layman's terms, it's described as a superconductor spinning fast around an electromagnet. It's probably a lot less complicated than we imagine. I also assume there's some sort of radiation component to it, maybe it's from the element 115 or maybe it's the process of bombarding the device with radiation that makes it react the way it does. It's fascinating. And there is credible information, Garry Nolan talks about this, that the craft do discharge a byproduct which sounds like some sort of molten metal. I think starting there is a good place to begin; i.e., what chemical reaction or process would result in a byproduct of molten metal with a high nickel content?

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u/ProgressNotPrfection 5d ago

There is no Element 115, it's known as Moscovium, everyone in chemistry around Lazar's time (and much earlier) knew that more super-heavy elements would be discovered at the end of the periodic table (which is arranged by atomic number), periodic tables even had placeholders for Element 115, Element 116, etc... before they were discovered and named. Currently there are several extended periodic tables with placeholders up to Element 168, Element 172, etc... And we're only on Element 118 (Oganesson) right now.

So what Lazar did was basically say "The aliens were using Element 119", except it was 115 back then. Lazar never gave the atomic weight, density, boiling point, etc... of Moscovium despite claiming he knew all about it.

In fact there is another metal that is heavier than Moscovium, that heavier metal is Livermorium (Element 116). Looks like Lazar's favorite little element is now outdated...

If you need the heaviest metal known to man then that is Livermorium (Element 116), not Moscovium (Element 115).

If you want the heaviest element known to man that is Oganesson (Element 118), not Moscovium. Interestingly Oganesson is a noble gas, not a metal.

The whole "Element 115" thing is part of Lazar's scam.

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u/EasTNVol 4d ago

Fraud Lazar. I’m 50 & remember watching him run away from Stanton Friedman (a real physicist) and wouldn’t meet him to discuss physics. Lazar could never explain his education claims nor produce anyone that could verify. I’ve never understood how people could overlook the education lies.

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u/Head_Memory 2d ago

He may not have known as much as he claims but I def believe he worked there in area 51 sites and witnessed some amazing stuff. He probably was just a pencil pusher without any big job there and made that up to come off more credible.

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u/EasTNVol 2d ago

He has a close friendship with John Lear. I think he learned what to say from him. It’s why he always came off like someone trying to explain things they were told not something they understood. Both Lazar & Lear are oddballs & I could certainly see them working it all out to make money or notoriety.

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u/Head_Memory 1d ago

Ot sure, but i do believe patt of what he says is actually legit. But not all. You know as if he saw images of saucers or some interior plans. And then made up some stuff to make it make sense for himself.

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u/iPointTheWay 4d ago edited 4d ago

No offense intended theres no polite way to say this…this is pure pseudoscience hot, rotting word salad garbage.

Its incredibly complicated. Chemical rockets are incredibly complicated and weve had those for 100 years. youre talking about a means of propulsion that would make any private inventor the world’s first trillionaire. If we understand it and have the material science for it and can build it, it would be so goddamned government black budget compartmentalized, classified, guarded by lethal force and locked down that it makes the manhattan project look like a joke.

There’s an ocean of scientific understanding and technical development and application between saying “oh so spin a superconductor around a magnet super fast and it probably radiates some energy or we irradiate the super conductor and that makes it shit out molten metal so this thing can fly in physics-defying ways without wings or visible propulsion and oh yeah by the way it can do it in multiple physical domains. Air, water, vacuum of space, yeah no problem its all good.”

Homie a superconductor is an electromagnet. With zero resistance. We cant even make them work at room temperature. We can barely make them work above absolute zero.

Yeah so i mean then just shoot it with the ACME Death Ray radiation gun like they do in the cartoons and that will uh. Make it “react”.

But first you have to put the unobtanium in the thing. I mean i dont know what it is thats why its unobtanium but that one guy said he heard from a guy who worked at a place with another guy who saw that like yeah definitely they make some stuff and it looks metalish. Like that scene from terminator 2 right? Like the lava bucket that arnold goes into and he gives the thumbs up, member? Yeah so like theres def some metal in there. And like yeah you just shrink it down and…bolt it in and then zip off. Its probably actually pretty simple.

No. Its fucking magical if its even possible. and its so far beyond the current public paradigm of energy generation, material science, propulsion, engineering, efficiency, safety, performance…that theres nothing you can point at to even use as a useful analogy. You have to go straight to sci fi movie magic.

Please. Stop. This is why UFOs and aliens is a complete joke. Zero rigor. Calling mylar balloons transdimensional plasma jellyfish and lens flares and optical reflections “orbs” with no hint of critical thought. Its literally a “because aliens” choose your own adventure story the whole way down. Shoot the raygun at the spinny magnet with the magic metal in it, and the frisbee gets the zoomies…the tv guy drew a picture looks pretty simple idk.

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u/Head_Memory 2d ago

Not really bc that'd require them to levitate only above prepared tracks, they can levitate and speed up however they want. Clearly the magnetic superconductors is only part of it. They definitely also create an own gravitation field and use gravity waves as propulsion and creating a counter force to earth's gravitational field and basically "deleting" the g-forces that'd kill the crew in a quick sharp turn under normal circumstances.

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u/Upstairs_Being290 6d ago

EM force only occurs within an EM field.  The Earth's magnetic field isn't strong enough to lift a toenail against gravity, much less a whole craft.

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u/ghostcatzero 5d ago

Not really. It exists through out the universe. Regardless of magneticsphere on earth. If these beings are as advanced as we think, than whose to say they haven't figured out how to create their own mini magnetoshpere in each vehicle? Heck even the sun has it own. Could even be possible that they are able to tap into that to power their craft.

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u/Upstairs_Being290 5d ago

That's nonsensical. You can't react against a force you create yourself, that defies basic logic.

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u/ghostcatzero 5d ago

Like I said, if they are as advanced as we think,ofc it wouldn't make sense to us lol

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u/Capable-Jeweler-8697 6d ago

saw one up close too and you're right similar to a puck. mine was dead silent going in a straight line with very slight swaying from left to right

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u/KELVALL 5d ago

Yes, they change direction like a ping pong ball bouncing off a wall. I watched three of them one night during a thunderstorm at 3am.

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u/ElkImaginary566 5d ago

That is what mine looked like all those years ago...

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u/asp_photography 6d ago

Are you sure you weren’t just drunk at the arcade?

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u/Sordid_Brain 6d ago

it's that lack of inertia. spooky

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u/Torvaldicus_Unknown 6d ago

Like a mouse cursor is exactly how I saw one move. I had no idea they moved like that at the time. Only to find out it's a widely reported phenomenon.

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u/MurphyItzYou 6d ago

Well imagine you’re controlling a drone from another planet, I don’t know, say…Jupiter. If you had to take a piss or whatever and you came back to your controls the first thing you do is wiggle the sticks a little to make sure it’s still connected and responding right. Then you send your drone 13,000mph through a slot canyon for fun before returning it to its underwater charging base.

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u/f1del1us 6d ago

It makes way more sense to me to send command and control signals like that from the same planet, with maybe larger instructions coming from somewhere else. But your assumption implies faster than light communication, which I have seen no evidence of.

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u/omeeomai 5d ago

Well we already know that quantum entanglement is a thing, it's not much of a stretch that someone/something has refined its use

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u/Calm_Like-A_Bomb 5d ago

Despite it being a popular sci-fi trope. Entangled particles don’t even have a theoretical means of transmitting any useful information at all.

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u/swaldrin 13h ago

Isn’t quantum entanglement a large part of the tech basis for quantum computing?

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u/ass-nuts 6d ago

the one i saw moved like it was phasing in and out of reality, shifting right then fading away and appearing a little bit away and then doing the same thing back left

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u/QuantumContactee 5d ago

Saw an entire fleet in broad daylight do that. My theory is that they are demonstrating intradimensional travel (yes, they know you can see them because that is what they want). I theorize they are demonstrating this to show us that they are creating rifts not in space one, but particularly TIME. Their objective: To communicate that they are from the future. Why? Fighting a quantum time war that the communists initiated, utilizing AI, possibly post Singularity. 

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u/Chance_Objective_838 5d ago

the communists

Fucking Nixon.

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u/Gokusbastardson 6d ago

Yes! This is what I imagine it would be like seeing one move the way David grusch described it. That shit would split my brain seeing a physical object move like that in real time, in real life!

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u/aliensporebomb 6d ago

Inertial dampers like in Star Trek. Inertia greatly reduced or removed altogether. It would be revolutionary.

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u/Salt-Cause-4749 6d ago

Honestly the exact way I always thought how they move. It's the best analogy imo.

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u/dpforest 5d ago

i was only introduced to this “mouse cursor” idea very recently but i think it’s a really cool theory. also slightly horrifying but i’ve always imagined moving a mouse cursor around in my room, right clicking on things to make them change colors. Who knows

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u/Observervation 5d ago

BRUH THIS IS EXACTLY HOW I IMAGINED IT WHEN I HAD MY FIRST EXPERIENCE. I IMAGINED A 3D CURSOR.

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u/RoanapurBound 6d ago

yeah, almost sounds like a laser pointer, like a projection..

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u/[deleted] 5d ago

or like a moving laser pointer dot, like, go grab a laser pointer and aim it at a wall then mess around with it, that's what it looks like

that makes me think these things perform as if they were completely massless (zero inertia and zero gravitational interaction), very weird

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

Moving like a mouse cursor is a strong indication that it is a holographic projection of some kind, that's the simplest explanation.

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u/aliensporebomb 6d ago

Or inertial reduction or removal.

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

Which is exotic technology to my understanding. How do you know it's not a hologram?

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u/aliensporebomb 6d ago

How do you know it is? Holograms are one thing but they are not the be-all-end-all of imaging. But if it's a real deal craft it seems trivial a race that could create something as described to also be able to cloak it from view.

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u/atomictyler 6d ago

neither of you have proof for your guesses. why do you feel like your guess requires debunking before considering anything else?

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u/startedposting 6d ago

This is the fallacy of pseudo skepticism. For some reason, their “logical” explanations (even when they have no proof of it) are more likely than your “outlandish” claim of a UAP exhibiting strange maneuvers.

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

This is no pseudo skepticism. Unless you dismiss the prosaic, assumption of exotic explanation is only something belivers indulge in.

In what way is a hologram more outlandish than physics defying craft?

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u/startedposting 6d ago

I don’t care nor have a problem with your claim, but claiming it should be debunked first because of “likelihood” is not good science. At best and at its definition, it’s an unidentified anomalous phenomenon.

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

Why will I have any proof? I am not the one making the claim at all. The scientific method dictates that you rule out simpler possibilities first. You already ruled out that he was lying, this is the next possibility before you jump to "NHI".

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u/SUBsha 6d ago

Can you point me to existing technology that can project large holograms, or even just a patent, or an article describing theoretical technology that can display holograms in remote locations?

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

https://www.perplexity.ai/search/holographic-technology-parents-Rx1FkwZgTbudxzoAWE8idw#0

Plenty of related parents, look at the companies.

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u/SUBsha 6d ago edited 6d ago

Battelle 👀👀👀 really cool, thanks for sharing

Edit: my only issue with this link is that nowhere does it describe a technology that can project large scale visual holograms to a remote location, like the Colorado mountains in this OP.

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

Honestly, I am not saying it is a hologram with any degree of certainty, just that we need to rule that shit out.

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u/aliensporebomb 6d ago

I don't think it's aliens either. That's a convenient explanation. But it could be something we constructed, a projection is as possible as a interdimensional craft from somewhere.

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

A craft that humans constructed can't move like a computer cursor, at least not with our current understanding of physics.

If you are saying such a thing exists then it is far more likely that holographic projection technology that doesn't break any laws is far more credible.

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u/aliensporebomb 6d ago

Salvatore Pais seems to think craft can. But yeah, sure, holograms.

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

Who is he and why should I believe him? Has he presented any evidence that proves his claim? Why should I believe someone who says we have invented "magical" Technology without an iota of evidence.

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u/MurphyItzYou 6d ago

That would also explain why they can move from air to liquid and maintain the same speed and not affect the particles they’re passing through. They are seemingly unaffected by matter in our dimension because they’re not interacting with it.

It’s why they don’t make sound. It’s why they don’t leave gigantic splashes when they go into the ocean. They’re not physically here.

Or we’re living in a simulation and they’re using a noclip hack lol

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

Somehow this sub doesn't like that theory all.

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u/-Masaroth- 6d ago

Or we just don't understand the science. Doesn't always have to be a hologram.

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u/Ok-Adhesiveness-4141 6d ago

Or you disprove that it is a hologram before considering it to be exotic technology.