r/Westerns • u/SoundMedal • 2d ago
Western, or nah?
The Jigawatts were there, but problem with speed.
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u/mukn4on 2d ago
It’s a western, but borderline a parody of westerns.
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u/Unusual-Ad4890 2d ago edited 2d ago
Meta Western, still a Western in spirit. Marty uses all the tropes to survive in 1885 to varying levels of success.
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u/EdwardBil 2d ago
It's reskinned with Western aesthetics. It's the exact same plot as the other two. I'm inclined to say it's still simply "adventure".
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u/DayanKnite 2d ago
It's a Weird Western. A subgenre of western with lots of examples.
link to the wikipedia entry https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weird_West
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u/deadnotsleeping77 1d ago
Hell yeah! And I read somewhere that many of the background actors were old western alumn. That with the fact that it was just really well done as a western makes me consider it a great western
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u/Thick_Communication1 2d ago
People should listen to Siskel and Ebert's review of this movie. They debate if it is just a western.
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u/cabezatuck 2d ago
Absolutely a western!
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u/tokyo_driftr 2d ago
I’d put this in the sci-fi western category with Cowboys V Aliens and John Carter
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u/KurtMcGowan7691 2d ago
I wouldn’t say so. It’s a Rom-com sci-fi adventure, but it’s a great tribute to the western.
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u/BasilAromatic4204 1d ago
Has a vibe that some might appreciate but not a technical western I'd say, due to the ambience of the future. I wrote the Sun just Might Fail which is awesome in its western feel, but cannot be a true western as it's based as a beginning year in 2492. I kind of hold the same for this. But that is simply my own opinion:)
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u/Midnightplat 1d ago
Western, and if I may be so bold, it and Unforgiven together form the parameters within which all 90s Westerns are contained.
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u/ChimpDaddy2015 1d ago
It qualifies…barely
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u/RoiVampire 1d ago
Not even barely, it’s got most of the qualifiers, setting, outlaws, rugged individualism, it’s got the whole frontier versus civilization angle, Buford is out for revenge, Clara provides the romance. It’s got it all honestly.
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u/SquareImprovement216 2d ago
Just don’t call it the Beyoncé of Westerns. For the record it’s my favorite of the trilogy and I like Texas Hold’em
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u/artrosk2 2d ago
100%
But you got movies which aren't western but use a lot of western code and are kind of western. Cross of iron, cent mille dollars au soleil for exemple
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u/xCanont70x 2d ago
Genuinely, in the 38 years that I have been alive, I've seen Part 1 about 50 times. I've seen Part 2, about 100 times. I've seen part 3, about 5 times. I don't consider it a western.
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u/KubrickMoonlanding 2d ago
Set in the west (or in the west of westerns); pokes fun at western moves. Not a western - thematically
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u/Less-Conclusion5817 2d ago
If it's set in the West (or in the West of westerns), then it's a western. You'll have a real hard time defining what's a western thematically.
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u/bgnewhouse 2d ago
I don't. The western is basically a heroic narrative, however much it may be disguised by ironic displacement (antiheroes, tragic endings). Comedies are not westerns, even if they used western imagery or parody westerns.
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u/Less-Conclusion5817 1d ago
Heroic narratives can be comedic, I don't think there's a conflict there. Rio Bravo is very much a comedy.
On the other hand, you can't have a heroic narrative with an antihero as the main character. You can have a reluctant hero, or even a hero who's not sympathetic, but not an antihero.
Or perhaps we don't agree about what's a heroic narrative.
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u/bgnewhouse 1d ago
Rather, perhaps we don't agree about who's an antihero. Would you consider Clint Eastwood's role in the Dollars trilogy to be that of an antihero? Or Dustin Hoffman in Little Big Man?
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u/Less-Conclusion5817 1d ago
Jack Crabb is an antihero. So is Blondie in "The Good, the Bad and the Ugly.* But main character of A Fistful of Dollars is actually a hero, even though he doesn't look the part.
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u/Less-Conclusion5817 2d ago
It is a western. Not a good one, though. It's the worst film of the trilogy by a country mile.
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u/Da_Punisher33 2d ago
It’s got Clint Eastwood in it there’s nothing more western than that